1000 Years Here Or There

[Revelation 14:6-12]

1000 Years Here Or 1000 Years There?

The scripture speaks about 1000 years that will come:

And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, (Revelation 20:2)

And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. (Revelation 20:3)

And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. (Revelation 20:4)

But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This [is] the first resurrection. (Revelation 20:5)

Blessed and holy [is] he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. (Revelation 20:6)

And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, (Revelation 20:7)

Those passages speak about a "1000 years" "reign", a "millenium" [latin: "mille":1000 and "annum":years] that shall be with CHRIST JESUS and HIS Saints.

Where will this "1000 years" "reign" with CHRIST JESUS be? Shall it be here upon this Earth? or shall it be elsewhere instead [and if elsewhere, where then, and what of the Earth at that time, and where will Satan and the wicked be during this same period, and what then after the 1000 years]? Let us look to the scriptures for these answers:

There are two "reigns" ["1000 years" and "forever and ever"], one leading into the other:

[1] The "1000 years" reign "in Heaven" [Psalms 50:5; Matthew 5:3,8,10,12, 6:20, 13:30, 24:31; Mark 10:21, 13:27; Luke 6:23, 18:22, 23:43; John 14:2-3, 17:24; Colossians 1:5; Hebrews 10:34; 1 Peter 1:4; Revelation 7:9, 14:3, 19:1; "Paradise", Luke 23:43; 2 Corinthians 12:4; Revelation 2:7] with CHRIST JESUS [1 Thessalonians 4:16-17; Revelation 20:6] and...

[2] The "reign on earth" ["made new", not this sin polluted Earth; 2 Peter 3:13; Isaiah 65:17, 66:22; Revelation 21:1] that lasts "forever and ever" [Revelation 5:10; "meek inherit earth" ["made new", not this sin polluted Earth], Psalms 37:9,11,34; Proverbs 11:31; Isaiah 25:8, 65:21; Daniel 7:27; Matthew 5:5; Revelation 5:10].

 

[Revelation 14:6-12]

1000 Years Here Or 1000 Years There?...

The passages which speak about the "1000 years" "reign" of the Saints with CHRIST JESUS [Revelation 20:1-7] make absolutely no mention of being "on the earth".

The passages which speak about the "reign on the earth" [Revelation 5:10] does not end after a "1000 years", for it is even "forever and ever" [Revelation 11:15, 22:5].

In fact, the passages declare that those Saints reigning with CHRIST JESUS in the "1000 years" are "in Heaven" before the throne of GOD on the "sea of glass mingled with fire" [Revelation 4:6, 15:2].

What then begins the "1000 years"?

The First Resurrection and the 2nd Advent of CHRIST JESUS [which there is no longer any possibility to change sides in the Great Controversy]:

He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. (Revelation 22:11)

HE [JESUS] will come with "clouds" to reap the earth:

And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud [one] sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. (Revelation 14:14)

In scripture these "clouds" are HIS Angels, the very "reapers" [Psalms 68:17, 104:3; Isaiah 66:15; Matthew 13:39,49, 16:27, 24:30, 25:31,51, 26:64; Mark 8:38, 13:27; Luke 9:26, 21:27; Acts 1:9-11; 1 Thessalonians 3:13, 4:16-17; Hebrews 1:7; Revelation 1:7, 12:7, etc] and every Angel in Heaven [all of them] is coming back with HIM in the most glorious triumphant return...and there will be silence in Heaven "about the space" of "half an hour" [Revelation 8:1; about 30 prophetic minutes; is equal to one literal week [7 days], for a prophetic day in prophecy is equal to one literal year; Numbers 14:34; Ezekiel 4:6; Daniel 8:14, 9:24, 12:11-12; Luke 13:32-33; etc]...

Just as there was a resurrection of "many" [not all] Saints that "slept" around Jerusalem [locally] at the time of JESUS' own resurrection [Matthew 27:52], the very "firstfruits" of that Great "Harvest" of the Earth [Revelation 14:15] which is coming to begin the "1000 years" [see Exodus 23:16,19, 34:22,26; 1 Corinthians 15:20,23; Ephesians 4:8]:

And just as those who were resurrected then as "Firstfruits" came out of their graves and were later then taken into Heaven with CHRIST JESUS, so likewise all of the righteous saints still on the earth at the 2nd Advent will likewise rise and be "caught up" "into the air" "to meet the LORD" and be taken back with HIM into Heaven, to "the place" HE has gone to "prepare for" us [compare Revelation 20:4-6], just as the Bridegroom comes for HIS Bride and takes her back to the room that was built onto the FATHER's House [Psalms 19:5-6; Matthew 25:1-13]:

In my Father's house are many mansions: if [it were] not [so], I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. (John 14:2)

And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, [there] ye may be also. (John 14:3)

For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive [and] remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. (1 Thessalonians 4:15)

For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: (1 Thessalonains 4:16)

Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. (1 Thessalonians 4:17)

Looking closely at Revelation 20:4-6 [which is directly linked to 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17; the "first resurrection"] reveals together then that the Saints [who were all "caught up" "into the air" to meet their LORD] then live and reign with CHRIST JESUS for "1000 years" in "Heaven".

Not a single text there in vs 4-6 say that the "1000 years" "reign" is to be on this earth. Not a single text reveal that all of the Saints then suddenly drop out of the sky after meeting their LORD in "the air" to then reign on the Earth, and we are about to see scriptures which reveal why the Saints cannot reign on the Earth during the "1000 years":

In the 2nd Advent, "every eye" [wicked and righteous living] "shall see HIM" [JESUS] and they "shall see HIM as HE is" [1 John 3:2], yea, even "they who pierced HIM" and "all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of HIM" [Revelation 1:7; see also Matthew 26:64; Mark 14:62]; "all the tribes of the earth" [Matthew 24:30].

 

[Revelation 14:6-12]

1000 Years Here Or 1000 Years There?...

Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. (2 Peter 1:20)

...regarding the "power" and "coming" [in the Greek is "parousia" "παρουσία"] of our "LORD JESUS CHRIST" that Peter and others have "made known"...

For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. (2 Peter 1:16) [see Mount of Transfiguration, a miniature type of that which is to come.]

...here are some of those texts [see also Joel 2:32; Revelation 6:14-17]...

"...the Son of man in heaven ... they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory." (Matthew 24:30;p) [the "clouds" are the "reapers"]

"...the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him..." (Matthew 25:31;p)

"...the Son of man … when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels." (Mark 8:38;p)

"...the Son of man … when he shall come in his own glory, and [in his] Father's, and of the holy angels." (Luke 9:26;p)

"...they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory." (Luke 21:27;p)

"...the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints." (1 Thessalonians 3:13;p)

"...the Lord himself shall descend from heaven..." (1 Thessalonians 4:16;p)

It is exactly during this monumentous event that every single "dead in CHRIST" [1 Thessalonians 4:16] will "awake" from their "sleep" and "slumber" in the "dust" of the earth [Daniel 12:2; Isaiah 26:19; 1 Corinthians 15:55], "arise" from their first death, and "shout" and "sing" and be given immortality then, as will then the living righteous [1 Corinthians 15:52-54; 2 Timothy 4:8; clearly showing that they did not have it beforehand, they were mortal before].

So, CHRIST JESUS will come in Great Glory, Majesty and Power, with all of the Holy Angels to reap the Great Harvest of the Earth [Mark 4:29; Revelation 14:14-15] and according to the passages which speak of these events, such as 1 Thesslonians 4:16-17, JESUS CHRIST never touches the earth at any single point during the 2nd Advent [which begins the 1000 years].

HE remains "up in the air", and the saints are "gathered" to HIM "in the clouds" [Matthew 24:31; Mark 13:27]. HE does not descend to touch the earth at any point during this time. The Saints are taken back to New Jerusalem in a glorious procession and triumphant return, surrounded by all the Holy Angels!

 

[Revelation 14:6-12]

1000 Years Here Or 1000 Years There?...

What is then taking place on the Earth while the Saints are reigning in Heaven for 1000 years?

During the 1000 years all of the wicked who ever lived are slain, left dead as refuse "upon the ground" [Jeremiah 25:33], a "great supper" for "all the fowls" [Matthew 24:28; Luke 17:37; Revelation 19:17], destroyed by the 7 last plagues [Revelation 16:1-21], great hail, earthquake [Revelation 16:18] and JESUS' Glory and Brightness of HIS 2nd Advent [2 Thessalonians 2:8]...this is why scripture can say, "that the rest of the dead [being all of the wicked], lived not again until the thousand years are finished".

With all of the destruction and judgment laid heavy upon the earth, in its sin filled and polluted condition who will be able to live there, "reign" there or want to? All of the "rest of the dead" [all of the wicked who have ever been] are not alive during the 1000 years. Earth is left desolate, broken down, left in darkness, and only Satan and his angels remain there, "bound" in the barren "wilderness", unable to tempt anyone [for the Saints are with CHRIST JESUS in Heaven, and the wicked are dead]:

And they shall be gathered together, [as] prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison, and after many days shall they be visited. (Isaiah 24:22) [All of the wicked are gathered into bundles, in death, and are "shut up" in their graves until the end of the 1000 years [the "after many days"] and the 3rd Advent of CHRIST JESUS takes place with the Saints and New Jerusalem coming down out of Heaven, and the second resurrection also taking place.]

As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. (Matthew 13:40)

For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. (Matthew 24:28)

And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body [is], thither will the eagles be gathered together. (Luke 17:37)

In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: (2 Thessalonians 1:8)

And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: (2 Thessalonians 2:8)

I will utterly consume all [things] from off the land, saith the LORD. (Zephaniah 1:2)

I will consume man and beast; I will consume the fowls of the heaven, and the fishes of the sea, and the stumblingblocks with the wicked; and I will cut off man from off the land, saith the LORD. (Zephaniah 1:3)

And the idols he shall utterly abolish. (Isaiah 2:18) [See also Daniel 2:34,45]

And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth. (Isaiah 2:19)

To go into the clefts of the rocks, and into the tops of the ragged rocks, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth. (Isaiah 2:21)

But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked. (Isaiah 11:4)

Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof. (Isaiah 24:1)

The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken this word. (Isaiah 24:3)

The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly. (Isaiah 24:19)

The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again. (Isaiah 24:20)

Come near, ye nations, to hear; and hearken, ye people: let the earth hear, and all that is therein; the world, and all things that come forth of it. (Isaiah 34:1)

For the indignation of the LORD [is] upon all nations, and [his] fury upon all their armies: he hath utterly destroyed them, he hath delivered them to the slaughter. (Isaiah 34:2)

Their slain also shall be cast out, and their stink shall come up out of their carcases, and the mountains shall be melted with their blood. (Isaiah 34:3)

And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling [fig] from the fig tree. (Isaiah 34:4)

And the streams thereof shall be turned into pitch, and the dust thereof into brimstone, and the land thereof shall become burning pitch. (Isaiah 34:9)

I beheld the earth, and, lo, [it was] without form, and void; and the heavens, and they [had] no light. (Jeremiah 4:23)

I beheld, and, lo, [there was] no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled. (Jeremiah 4:25)

I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place [was] a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, [and] by his fierce anger. (Jeremiah 4:26)

For thus hath the LORD said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end. (Jeremiah 4:27) [The full end comes after the 3rd Advent [end of the 1000 years], New Jerusalem descends with the Saints from heaven, the 2nd resurrection [Resurrection of the wicked] after the 1,000 years takes place, Satan is loosed for he now has a massive group of resurrected [all of the wicked who ever lived] at his hands and they surround the camp of the saints, and then the final judgment and destruction of all the wicked and Satan with the Lake of Fire and Rain of Fire, and when they are finally "burnt up" into "smoke" and "ashes", never to be "any more", then shall CHRIST JESUS create the New Heaven and New Earth for the meek to inherit...]

For this shall the earth mourn, and the heavens above be black: because I have spoken [it], I have purposed [it], and will not repent, neither will I turn back from it. (Jeremiah 4:28)

The whole city shall flee for the noise of the horsemen and bowmen; they shall go into thickets, and climb up upon the rocks: every city [shall be] forsaken, and not a man dwell therein. (Jeremiah 4:29)

And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from [one] end of the earth even unto the [other] end of the earth: they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung upon the ground. (Jeremiah 25:33)

 

[Revelation 14:6-12]

1000 Years Here Or 1000 Years There?...

For at the second Advent of CHRIST JESUS [which is the precursor to the beginning of the 1,000 years], a great and mighty earthquake rocks the world and the First Great Resurrection takes place [Revelation 20:4-6]:

And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, [and] so great. (Revelation 16:8)

And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath. (Revelation 16:9)

And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found. (Revelation 16:20)

And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, [every stone] about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great. (Revelation 16:21)

With these passages how can there be a "1000 years" "reign" of peace on the Earth by anyone? For scripture continues by clearly saying:

But as the days of Noe [were], so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. (Matthew 24:37)

For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, (Matthew 24:38)

And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. (Matthew 24:39)

They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. (Luke 17:27)

Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; (Luke 17:28)

But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed [them] all. (Luke 17:29)

Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed. (Luke 17:30)

For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destructioncometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. (1 Thessalonains 5:3)

Satan [represented by the scapegoat, `aza'zel, not a sacrifice for sin, but ultimately responsible for all sin] then, after the Saints are "caught up" "into the air" and the wicked are "brought low" and "slain" [to await their final sentencing in the Second resurrection after the 1000 years], is bound by his surrounding circumstance in the "1000 years" on the desolate Earth, the "wilderness" a "land not inhabited" [see Jeremiah 4:23-29, 25:33], where was once the "fruitful place", and he is bound and led away, just as Leviticus 16 and Revelation 20:1-3 reveal [for events beforehand compare also Leviticus 16:17 to Revelation 15:8, and also Leviticus 16:20 with JESUS coming out of Heaven to Hebrews 9:28]:

And Aaron shall cast lots upon the two goats; one lot for the LORD, and the other lot for the scapegoat. (Leviticus 16:8)

But the goat, on which the lot fell to be the scapegoat, shall be presented alive before the LORD, to make an atonement with him, [and] to let him go for a scapegoat into the wilderness. (Leviticus 16:10)

And when he hath made an end of reconciling the holy [place], and the tabernacle of the congregation, and the altar, he shall bring the live goat: (Leviticus 16:20)

[compare to...]

Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, having the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. (Revelation 20:1)

And Aaron shall lay both his hands upon the head of the live goat, and confess over him all the iniquities of the children of Israel, and all their transgressions in all their sins, putting them upon the head of the goat, and shall send [him] away by the hand of a fit man into the wilderness: (Leviticus 16:21)

And the goat shall bear upon him all their iniquities unto a land not inhabited: and he shall let go the goat in the wilderness. (Leviticus 16:22)

[compare to...]

And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,(Revelation 20:2)

And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. (Revelation 20:3)

 

[Revelation 14:6-12]

1000 Years Here Or 1000 Years There?...

Since the scriptures reveal that the Saints are not on the Earth during the "1000 years", and the unrighteous do "not inherit the Kingdom of GOD" [1 Corinthians 6:9-10], how then can it be taught that the Saints "reign" over the wicked as some assume? The scriptures never speak of the Saints reigning "over" the wicked, but rather the scriptures say that the Saints shall "reign with CHRIST JESUS". What does this mean? Let us look at some instances of how the scriptures use the word "reign" here:

For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) (Romans 5:17)

Now ye are full, now ye are rich, ye have reigned as kings without us: and I would to God ye did reign, that we also might reign with you. (1 Corinthians 4:8)

If we suffer, we shall also reign with [him]: if we deny [him], he also will deny us: (2 Timothy 2:12)

Blessed and holy [is] he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. (Revelation 20:6)

It is not a 'reign over the wicked' as some have judged. It is rather a "reign[ing] with CHRIST JESUS" in life and peace.

Scripture says that during the 1000 years, we will be able to look over the record books and see the judgments of GOD, and HE will be vindicated, for it is ultimately HE that has been on trial, HIS goodness, HIS Justice, HIS Love, Mercy, etc:

The fear of the LORD [is] clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD [are] true [and] righteous altogether. (Psalms 19:9)

Thy word [is] true [from] the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments [endureth] for ever. (Psalms 119:160)

The LORD [is] righteous in all his ways, and holy in all his works. (Psalms 145:17)

God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged. (Romans 3:4)

Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment. (John 7:24)

And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law? (Romans 2:27)

Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in [his] brother's way. (Romans 14:13)

Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God. (1 Corinthians 4:5)

Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? (1 Corinthians 6:2)

Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? (1 Corinthians 6:3)

And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous [are] thy judgments. (Revelation 16:7)

For true and righteous [are] his judgments: for he hath judged the great harlot, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand. (Revelation 19:2)

We will get to look at the righteous judgments of GOD, for GOD is JUDGE [Isaiah 3:13, 11:4, 33:22; John 12:48; Acts 10:42, 17:31; Romans 2:16, 3:6; 2 Timothy 4:1,8; Hebrews 10:30, 12:23, 13:4; James 5:9; 1 Peter 4:5; Revelation 6:10, 19:11], and realize that HE is fair, just, and love in all things.

CHRIST JESUS said it will not be like those who "excercise lordship":

And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors. (Luke 22:25)

But ye [shall] not [be] so: but he that is greatest among you, let him be as the younger; and he that is chief, as he that doth serve. (Luke 22:26)

It is interesting to see some additionally teach that there will even be marriages and births during the "1000 years", but let us see what scripture plainly says; for we know that the "First Resurrection" and the 2nd Advent begin the "1000 years" [1 Thessalonians 4:16-17; Revelation 20:4-6]:

For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven. (Matthew 22:30)

For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven. (Mark 12:25)

But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage. (Luke 20:35)

 

[Revelation 14:6-12]

1000 Years Here Or 1000 Years There?...

There are some who have suggested and/or taught that JESUS Kingdom will be upon this Earth during the "1000 years", ruling from an earthly Jerusalem, from and earthly temple, HE has said to them through the scriptures,"...My kingdom is not of this world ..." [John 18:36;p].

The "1000 years" "reign" will then not be upon this sin polluted Earth.

CHRIST JESUS has said of the physical Jewish Israelite Temple, "...your house is left unto you desolate..." [Matthew 23:38; Luke 13:35;p], and it was destroyed in AD 70 by the Romans under Titus ["the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city"; see Daniel 9:26; Matthew 24:15; Mark 13:14] as prophesied by CHRIST JESUS, "There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down." [see Matthew 24:2; Mark 13:2; Luke 19:44, 21:6].

For the Church itself, and its members, the Body of CHRIST, are the "Holy Temple" of the Living GOD, "lively stones", and "pillar" [1 Corinthians 3:16-17, 6:19; 2 Corinthians 6:16; Ephesians 2:21; 2 Thessalonians 2:4; 1 Peter 2:5; Revelation 3:12], JESUS is our "Temple" [John 2:19-20; see also Matthew 26:61, 27:40; Mark 14:58, 15:29] and the "Temple" in Heaven [Exodus 25:9,40; Hebrews 9:23; Revelation 7:15, 11:1-2,19, 14:15,17, 15:5-6,8, 16:1,17, 21:22] and we, as Abraham and the faithful, do not look for an earthly city, but rather an "Heavenly" City, "whose builder an Maker is GOD", "New Jerusalem" [Hebrews 11:10,13-14,16,39-40, 12:22; Revelation 3:12, 21:2].

There will indeed be a "reign" "forever and ever" upon Earth, but it shall be the Earth "made new", which the "meek shall inherit", after the "1000 years" and the destruction of Satan and all of the wicked.

For precept [must be] upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, [and] there a little: (Isaiah 28:10)

Let us ask directly of scripture: "Who shall not inherit and who shall not reign, and what then shall their portion and inheritance be?"

The heaven shall reveal his iniquity; and the earth shall rise up against him. (Job 20:27)

The increase of his house shall depart, [and his goods] shall flow away in the day of his wrath. (Job 20:28)

This [is] the portion of a wicked man from God, and the heritage appointed unto him by God. (Job 20:29)

For what portion of God [is there] from above? and [what] inheritance of the Almighty from on high? (Job 31:2)

[Is] not destruction to the wicked? and a strange [punishment] to the workers of iniquity? (Job 31:3)

The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God. (Psalms 9:17)

Upon the wicked he shall rain snares, fire and brimstone, and an horrible tempest: [this shall be] the portion of their cup. (Psalms 11:6)

Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, (1 Corinthians 6:9)

Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told [you] in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. (Galatians 5:21)

It is clear that the wicked shall not "reign", neither "inherit the Kingdom of GOD" but their "portion" and "inheritance" is "destruction", "fire and brimstone".
Let us next ask of scripture: "Who then shall inherit and reign?"

For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth. (Psalms 37:9)

But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace. (Psalms 37:11)

Wait on the LORD, and keep his way, and he shall exalt thee to inherit the land: when the wicked are cut off, thou shalt see [it]. (Psalms 37:34)

For the LORD taketh pleasure in his people: he will beautify the meek with salvation. (Psalms 149:4)

Behold, the righteous shall be recompensed in the earth: much more the wicked and the sinner. (Proverbs 11:31)

He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the LORD hath spoken [it]. (Isaiah 25:8)

Blessed [are] the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5:3)

Blessed [are] the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. (Matthew 5:5)

Blessed [are] the pure in heart: for they shall see God. (Matthew 5:8)

Blessed [are] they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5:10)

Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: (Matthew 25:34)

Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. (2 Peter 3:13)

 

[Revelation 14:6-12]

1000 Years Here Or 1000 Years There?...

Let us ask of scripture, "Shall the Saints enter into Heaven?":

Gather my saints together unto me; those that have made a covenant with me by sacrifice. (Psalms 50:5)

Blessed [are] the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5:3)

Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great [is] your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you. (Matthew 5:12)

But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: (Matthew 6:20)

Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn. (Matthew 13:30)

And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. (Matthew 24:31)

Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me. (Mark 10:21)

And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven. (Mark 13:27)

Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward [is] great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets. (Luke 6:23)

Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me. (Luke 18:22)

And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise. (Luke 23:43)
[considering "today", there is no punctuation in the Greek Texts, compoare John 20:17. Especially compare this verse and the word "paradise" to the same in 2 Corinthians 12:4 and Revelation 2:7]

In my Father's house are many mansions: if [it were] not [so], I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. (John 14:2)

And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, [there] ye may be also. (John 14:3)

For the hope which is laid up for you in heaven, whereof ye heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel; (Colossians 1:5)

Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. (1 Thessalonians 4:17)

For ye had compassion of me in my bonds, and took joyfully the spoiling of your goods, knowing in yourselves that ye have in heaven a better and an enduring substance. (Hebrews 10:34)

To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you, (1 Peter 1:4)

After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; (Revelation 7:9)

And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred [and] forty [and] four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. (Revelation 14:3)

And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God: (Revelation 19:1)

Let us ask scripture "Shall the Saints then after being in Heaven for 1000 years also inherit the Earth?"

For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth. (Psalms 37:9)

But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace. (Psalms 37:11)

Wait on the LORD, and keep his way, and he shall exalt thee to inherit the land: when the wicked are cut off, thou shalt see [it]. (Psalms 37:34)

Behold, the righteous shall be recompensed in the earth: much more the wicked and the sinner. (Proverbs 11:31)

And they shall build houses, and inhabit [them]; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them. (Isaiah 65:21)

And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom [is] an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him. (Daniel 7:27)

Blessed [are] the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. (Matthew 5:5)

And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth. (Revelation 5:10)

Let us further ask of scripture, "Do the Saints await to inherit and reign on this sin polluted Earth, or do they rather wait to inherit the Earth made new after the "1000 years" and destruction of the wicked?”

For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind. (Isaiah 65:17)

For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain. (Isaiah 66:22)

Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. (2 Peter 3:13)

And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. (Revelation 21:1)

 

[Revelation 14:6-12]

1000 Years Here Or 1000 Years There?...

There are many texts which have already revealed that this sin polluted Earth is to be "brought low", made desolate and the "trangression thereof shall be heavy upon it" during the 1000 years, but shall this sin polluted Earth also "pass away" afterwards? Yes, this sin polluted Earth is to "pass away" and be "made new":

Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. (Matthew 24:35)

Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. (Mark 13:31)

Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. (Luke 21:33)

But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. (2 Peter 3:7)

And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. (Revelation 21:4)

Let us ask scripture, "How can we know for certain that the Saints will not reign on this sin polluted Earth, but will instead inherit the Earth "made new"?"

And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the [world] to come. (Matthew 12:32)

But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom. (Matthew 26:29)

But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life. (Mark 10:30)

Verily I say unto you, I will drink no more of the fruit of the vine, until that day that I drink it new in the kingdom of God. (Mark 14:25)

Who shall not receive manifold more in this present time, and in the world to come life everlasting. (Luke 18:30)

Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence. (John 18:36)

Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come: (Ephesians 1:21)

For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak. (Hebrews 2:5)

And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, (Hebrews 6:5)

The passages which speak of things done during the "Reign on the Earth" [Revelation 5:10], wherein they shall "build houses", "plant vineyards", "calves of the stall" [Malachi 4:2], "wolf also shall dwell with the lamb" [Isaiah 11:6-10] and "feed together" [Isaiah 65:17-25], everyone enjoying the 7th Day "Sabbath" on Earth together and "all flesh" come to worship before HIM [Isaiah 66:23], and there will be "no more death...neither...any more pain" [Revelation 21:4] etc., take place after the "1000 years", after the 2nd Resurrection [resurrection of the wicked], after Satan, sin and sinners are ultimately dealt with in the "lake of fire" which burns upon the whole earth [Revelation 20:7-15] in the Great White Throne Judgment [Revelation 20:11], and then after the re-creation of the Heaven and Earth [being "made new"].

We shall have a City Dwelling [New Jerusalem] and our very own country dwellings in the New Earth.

Just as the week is 6 Days and the 7th of Rest [Genesis 2:2-3; Exodus 20:8-11, etc], so too is to be the 1000 years, a Sabbath of Rest in Heaven, for the Gospel has been preached in the world for 6000 years.

Just as the Land itself was to be worked for 6 years and the 7th year it was to be left alone, so too is to be the 1000 years, a Sabbath of Rest in Heavenly Canaan - The Promised Land. [Exodus 23:10-11]

Just as the slaves worked for 6 years, they were to be set free in the 7th year, so too is it to be in the 1000 years, a Sabbath of Rest in Heaven. [Exodus 21:2; Deuteronomy 15:12]

Just as Moses waited at the base of the Mountain 6 days, and on the 7th he was then called up into the Mount, into the clouds, so too shall we be called upwards. [Exodus 24:16; 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17]

Just as Joash was hid in the Temple 6 years, while Athaliah [daughter of Jezebel] reigned, and in the 7th year he was crowned King and came out with an army to slay her, so too will CHRIST JESUS come as KING of Kings and LORD of Lords and HE shall reign, and slay the wicked. [2 Kings 1:3; 2 Chronicles 22:12]

Just as JESUS and the three Disciples [Peter, James and John] after 6 days went up the Mountain of Transfiguration, they saw JESUS transfigured before them standing with Moses and Elijah [the Law and the Prophets, the Resurrected Dead and the Translated Living, types of those to be on Earth at the 2nd Advent; Matthew 17, Mark 9; Luke 9; 2 Peter 1:16].

And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever. (Daniel 12:3)

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

Wow brother! When you put together a study, you don't leave any rock unturned...

 

[Joe67]

This testimony of Jesus must needs be considered.

Rev 1:5-6
5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen. KJV

Rev 5:9-10
9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth. KJV

Rev 20:6
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. KJV

John 17:15
15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. KJV

This is a spiritual priesthood that bears the fruit of the spirit once a month, every new moon, with 12 manner of fruits, to the people on both sides of the river of life.

Joe

 

[Revelation 14:6-12]

Wow brother! When you put together a study, you don't leave any rock unturned...

Actually I purposefully left out the details of the "special resurrection", though it is partially witnessed above in certain texts. Let me know if you are interested in studying it and I can send it to you by PM [it is meat for adventists], to the Law and to the Testimony...

 

[Revelation 14:6-12]

This testimony of Jesus must needs be considered.

Rev 1:5-6
5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen. KJV

Rev 5:9-10
9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth. KJV

Rev 20:6
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. KJV

John 17:15
15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. KJV

This is a spiritual priesthood that bears the fruit of the spirit once a month, every new moon, with 12 manner of fruits, to the people on both sides of the river of life.

Joe

The "testimony of Jesus" is the "spirit of Prophecy" to which only those who obey God in His Commandments have:

And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See [thou do it] not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. Revelation 19:10

Hence John receives the vision and prophecy while keeping the 4th Commandment [Revelation 1:10]

Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. Revelation 1:2

I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. Revelation 1:9

And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. Revelation 12:17

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

Let me know if you are interested in studying it and I can send it to you by PM [it is meat for adventists], to the Law and to the Testimony...

Yes please....

 

[Joe67]

The "testimony of Jesus" is the "spirit of Prophecy" to which only those who obey God in His Commandments have:

And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See [thou do it] not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. Revelation 19:10

Hence John receives the vision and prophecy while keeping the 4th Commandment [Revelation 1:10]

Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. Revelation 1:2

I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. Revelation 1:9

And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. Revelation 12:17

Revelation,

The question at hand is the 1000 years, here or there?

The scriptures are clear and simple. Those redeemed by the blood, who have been made kings and priests unto their God, they serve on the earth.

Joe

 

[Stryder06]

Revelation,

The question at hand is the 1000 years, here or there?

The scriptures are clear and simple. Those redeemed by the blood, who have been made kings and priests unto their God, they serve on the earth.

Joe

Where does the scripture say they serve on the earth?

 

[Joe67]

Where does the scripture say they serve on the earth?

Stryder,

Rev 5:9-10
9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth. KJV

Rev 20:6
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. KJV

Mark 10:42-45
Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them.

43 But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister:

44 And whosoever of you will be the chiefest, shall be servant of all.

45 For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many. KJV

Joe

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

In Genesis 15:16 the Lord promised Abraham and his descendants that they shall return to the land in the 4th generation. These are generation periods not literal generations. The Lord showed the first 3 generation periods in the first 3 animals of 3 years old that Abraham was told to divide in half by God. The first was a heifer, the second the she goat, and the third was the ram.

These 3 represent; first the Jew, then the Gentile, and then the Jew again; which all 3 have come to pass. Remember Jesus said; the first shall be last, and the last shall be first. So as soon as the third part is complete, the fourth part shall return. This is shown in the last ingathering feast, which is feast of tabernacles; where every man shall recieve his lot, or inheritance on earth.

Here are a few verses that show the Lords people shall inherit the earth:
Psalm 2:8
Psalm 25:13
Psalm 37:9
Psalm 37:11
Psalm 37:22
Psalm 82:8
Isaiah 49:8
Matthew 5:5

Also in Revelation 11:5 we see when the 7th angel sounds ( the kingdoms of "this world" are become the kingdoms of our Lord.) But we also know by scripture that the Lord will remove his people from off the earth before he purges it with fire.

In Isaiah 26:20-21 we see this; "Come my people, enter into thy chambers, and shut the doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast. For behold, the Lord comes out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.

After this indignation is accomplished, and the earth is cleansed by fire, the Lords people shall return. In Malachi 4:3 we see this when the Lord said that the ashes of the wicked shall be tread upon by the feet of the saints. I hope this helps. Peace

 

[Stryder06]

Stryder,

Rev 5:9-10
9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth. KJV

Rev 20:6
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. KJV

Mark 10:42-45
Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them.

43 But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister:

44 And whosoever of you will be the chiefest, shall be servant of all.

45 For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many. KJV

Joe

The scripture you provided does not say we shall reign with God on earth for 1000 years. Rev 5:9-10 is spoken by the elders and refers to the eternal reign of man on the earth, post sin. Rev 20:6 Says we shall reign with God 1000 years, but it doesn't say on the earth. Notice that according to verse 7 of the same chapter, the only ones who are alive are the saints in heaven for the rest of the dead do not live again until the 1k years are finished.

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

Revelation20:7-9; " And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, and shall go out to decieve the nations which are in the four quarters ( of the earth), Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

And they went up on the breadth ( of the earth), and compassed about the ( camp of the saints) about, and the beloved city: and fire ( came down) from God ( out of heaven), and destroyed them.