10 Reason to Go Grain Free

[Everlasting33]

I have eliminated all grains and most breads from my diet. Grains are very inflammatory (including rice and quinoa) and the human body usually rejects it by negative symptoms: inflammation and leaky gut syndrome.

What do you think?

10 Reasons to Go Grain-free | Nourished Kitchen

 

[Blayz]

I think 2 billion+ people would starve to death if they took your advice, and the fact that some percentage of the population suffers specific allergies to things like gluten is no reason for those that do not to cut them out of their diet.

Got a friend who goes into anaphylaxis when he eats carrots. Should we cut them out too?

I'd probably take the article more seriously if it provided any evidence at all for the many claims made. I did a quick search and there is no credible scientific evidence supporting a link between grain consumption and rheumatoid arthritis, for example.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Interesting topic. Adam and Eve ate tree-borne fruits in the garden. Only after the fall did man eat grains: 'In the sweat of your face, will you eat bread', implying heavy labor in it's production. Paul C. Bragg, in his famous 'Miracle of Fasting' book advises that only those engaged in heavy labor should eat bread in any quantity. Others, seeking health, should limit bread, and 'melba toast' it thoroughly. GO PACKERS!

 

[NvxiaLee]

I'm amused by the reasoning that we shouldn't eat grains because early man was a hunter and gatherer.

Those primitive savages didn't have half the life expectancy of a modern human. And, it doesn't necessarily follow that what we had in the past is best for us now.

I also doubt that early man was so much a hunter and a gatherer. Farming makes life so much easier, and so would have been one of man's earliest innovations. Why run around the woods looking for fruit when you can grow an orchard? Likewise, someone would have early on discovered that grain is edible, and grain is easy to grow. That's why it's the cheapest food in the grocery store. And, wild-gathered anything is expensive.

We all die, and even if grain is bad for me, I'd prefer to eat it than not. But, it's not bad. It makes it easier to get the nutrition you need. I saw a study that said people who eat brown rice live longer than people who don't eat any rice (and, both live longer than people who eat white rice).

The key is not abstinence, but moderation.

 

[Lion Hearted Man]

Interesting topic. Adam and Eve ate tree-borne fruits in the garden. Only after the fall did man eat grains: 'In the sweat of your face, will you eat bread', implying heavy labor in it's production. Paul C. Bragg, in his famous 'Miracle of Fasting' book advises that only those engaged in heavy labor should eat bread in any quantity. Others, seeking health, should limit bread, and 'melba toast' it thoroughly. GO PACKERS!

I don't think it's wise to take nutritional advice from a literal reading of Genesis. We should follow the scientific evidence.

 

[Everlasting33]

I'm amused by the reasoning that we shouldn't eat grains because early man was a hunter and gatherer.

Those primitive savages didn't have half the life expectancy of a modern human. And, it doesn't necessarily follow that what we had in the past is best for us now.

I also doubt that early man was so much a hunter and a gatherer. Farming makes life so much easier, and so would have been one of man's earliest innovations. Why run around the woods looking for fruit when you can grow an orchard? Likewise, someone would have early on discovered that grain is edible, and grain is easy to grow. That's why it's the cheapest food in the grocery store. And, wild-gathered anything is expensive.

We all die, and even if grain is bad for me, I'd prefer to eat it than not. But, it's not bad. It makes it easier to get the nutrition you need. I saw a study that said people who eat brown rice live longer than people who don't eat any rice (and, both live longer than people who eat white rice).

The key is not abstinence, but moderation.

In my case, grains are very inflammatory and I will get cystic acne due to it. Most grains cause bloating and problems with the gut, too.

 

[miss-a]

Here's the thing. I think it's an individual thing. Two weeks ago I would have been the first to poo-poo the idea of avoiding a grain-based diet. But I'm recovering from a chronic illness, and in so doing I've had to shelve many of my biases. One of the symptoms of adrenal fatigue, the illness I battle, is chronic respiratory infections. I've had different levels of respiratory infection for the last five years, non-stop. Can you imagine having a sinus infection for five years!

Anyway, about two weeks ago I noticed that when I happened to have a couple of days where I happened to not eat grains, the infection seemed to wind down a bit. So, I jumped off my high horse that had faught all these years to keep my organic whole grains, and I cut them way back, meaning I may eat one small serving a day, but they are not a staple. I've had an immediate lift in my stamina, the sinus infection is at an all time low, and I feel all around in better shape. I'm mentally stronger too. I believe the grains were causing inflammation in my sinuses that was creating an environment ripe for infection.

But that's me, and that's now. A year from now, when my adrenals are healed and the world's longest sinus infection is gone, I may find I can eat more grains without a problem. The bottom line is that I don't think we can be dogmatic about the issue, either side of it.

And, I think our Dad had you post that just to give me confirmation, Steel. So thanks for listening to Him!

Blessings,
A

 

[OldWiseGuy]

I don't think it's wise to take nutritional advice from a literal reading of Genesis. We should follow the scientific evidence.

I think it's very wise to carefully consider what is written in the bible (still the greatest source of wisdom known to man), about all subjects. Life was better in the garden eating fruit than outside working the grainfields. Much of western longevity and health is a result of labor saving machines, as well as the cultivation of lots of fruit. Aren't we all trying to get back to Eden? Also, Bragg looked to science, as well as common sense, to support his health regimes.

 

[Lion Hearted Man]

I think it's very wise to carefully consider what is written in the bible (still the greatest source of wisdom known to man), about all subjects. Life was better in the garden eating fruit than outside working the grainfields. Much of western longevity and health is a result of labor saving machines, as well as the cultivation of lots of fruit. Aren't we all trying to get back to Eden? Also, Bragg looked to science, as well as common sense, to support his health regimes.

The Bible also says to treat leprosy by applying blood to the walls of your abode. I'm glad that researchers didn't take a hardline position on that and instead developed antibiotics.

 

[NvxiaLee]

Anyway, about two weeks ago I noticed that when I happened to have a couple of days where I happened to not eat grains, the infection seemed to wind down a bit.

Fasting has many advantages, including discovering if you have food sensitivities. Someone who goes several days without food and notices the alleviation of a chronic problem knows there's a good chance that a certain food is causing the problem.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Fasting has many advantages, including discovering if you have food sensitivities. Someone who goes several days without food and notices the alleviation of a chronic problem knows there's a good chance that a certain food is causing the problem.

The best way to determine if one has a food allergy or sensitivity is to systematically remove suspect foods from the diet long enough to make that determination. When fasting lots of bad stuff is either excreted or metabolized at roughly the same time, so making a judgement about a certain food is pretty difficult.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

The Bible also says to treat leprosy by applying blood to the walls of your abode. I'm glad that researchers didn't take a hardline position on that and instead developed antibiotics.

Applying blood of birds and animals was a required ritual for God's supernatural healing while Israel was a nation. The Aaronic priesthood, and the last vestige of Israel as a nation, ended in 70 A.D. and so too God's healing. Followed was centuries of massive death by infectious disease. It was well known that the Jews avoided many serious outbreaks (notably bubonic plague) by adhering to the sanitation and quarantine laws proscribed by God. In fact many, including many Christians, actually blamed the Jews for starting the plagues because they escaped the most horrific effects of them.

 

[Lion Hearted Man]

Applying blood of birds and animals was a required ritual for God's supernatural healing while Israel was a nation. The Aaronic priesthood, and the last vestige of Israel as a nation, ended in 70 A.D. and so too God's healing. Followed was centuries of massive death by infectious disease. It was well known that the Jews avoided many serious outbreaks (notably bubonic plague) by adhering to the sanitation and quarantine laws proscribed by God. In fact many, including many Christians, actually blamed the Jews for starting the plagues because they escaped the most horrific effects of them.

Cool story. But does it inform us on how we should treat infectious disease today?

 

[DaisyDay]

I have eliminated all grains and most breads from my diet. Grains are very inflammatory (including rice and quinoa) and the human body usually rejects it by negative symptoms: inflammation and leaky gut syndrome.

What do you think?

10 Reasons to Go Grain-free | Nourished Kitchen

Is "leaky gut syndrome" real?

 

[Lion Hearted Man]

Is "leaky gut syndrome" real?

No, it's an alt med diagnosis. It's also connected to Wakefield's made-up "autistic entercolitis"

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Cool story. But does it inform us on how we should treat infectious disease today?

Not directly, no. But it may be part of the 'back story' of the ascent of Britian and America to benevolent world superpower status in the last few centuries. What is called by historians 'The Anglo-Saxon Miracle' is really the conferring of the majority of the material blessings promised BY GOD to the the sons of Joseph, in the 'latter days'. The ascent to benevolent greatness includes the great medical breakthroughs of our time, including the discovery of antibiotics.

 

[Lion Hearted Man]

Not directly, no. But it may be part of the 'back story' of the ascent of Britian and America to benevolent world superpower status in the last few centuries. What is called by historians 'The Anglo-Saxon Miracle' is really the conferring of the majority of the material blessings promised BY GOD to the the sons of Joseph, in the 'latter days'. The ascent to benevolent greatness includes the great medical breakthroughs of our time, including the discovery of antibiotics.

I don't agree with any of this. I don't want to carry on this discussion any more because it's clear that we view reality in completely incompatible ways.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

I don't agree with any of this. I don't want to carry on this discussion any more because it's clear that we view reality in completely incompatible ways.

I wuz just trying to give some of the credit to God.

 

[Lion Hearted Man]

I wuz just trying to give some of the credit to God.

Which I believe is credit that is misplaced, especially when you give credit to God when the credit goes to human beings.

 

[SwissMade]

Which I believe is credit that is misplaced, especially when you give credit to God when the credit goes to human beings.

You are going to have a lot of conversations like this when you are an atheist posting on a Christian forum. That should be pretty obvious.