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[JoabAnias]

I though it was the one you meant on your recommandions list.

Are there other Thomas Gospels?

I suppose there's a lot of Apocrypha kicking about; I have a substantial collection called "Lost Scriptures" (Oxford University Press). Much is from the Nag Hammadi find, and Gnostic in content. That stuff is, as you say, largely whacky.

Thats a good question. I am unsure. That list is pulled from what the Church considered for the canon of Scripture in the 4th and 5th centuries.

If its the same Gospel of Thomas I am unsure. I would still recommend it nevertheless. I just have avoided it for the afore mentioned reason which was a very long time ago, before I even knew what a Gnostic Gospel was. But now you have peeked my curiosity, I wonder if it is one and the same. I am trying to remember what else it was I heard about it. Perhaps there is a Gnostic Gospel of Thomas as well and thats what was refered to. I will do some research when I get more time and get back to you. Right now I have to go on a road trip and will be out of the loop for a several hrs.

Peace.

 

[JoabAnias]

Stephen,

What are all the virtues besides faith hope and love?

Thank you

Ben dude, your the only one who changes his clothes on here. The rest of us must all be ripe by now.

Do you mean the cardinal virtues?

How ya been anyway, haven't heard from you in days and days? Everything been ok?

Peace brother.

 

[CatholicFlame]

LOL I change my clothes more than I change the books on my shelf.

Doing fine brother Joab, maybe I need some new reading. I liked your link but I also think I need a book on the virtues of the faith.

As your link stated "virtue means: something on which everything else hinges"

 

[JoabAnias]

LOL I change my clothes more than I change the books on my shelf.

Doing fine brother Joab, maybe I need some new reading. I liked you link but Ialso think I need a book on the vitures of the faith.

As your link stated "virtue means: something on which everything else hinges"

I have a good one I could recommend. I don't see it in the stacks immediately arround and I really have to run. People are waiting on me. I will find it and cite it for you later tonight. It was a good one as I recall. Remind me if I forget to get you the ISBN, Title and Author.

Peace brother,

TTYL.

 

[JoabAnias]

LOL I change my clothes more than I change the books on my shelf.

Doing fine brother Joab, maybe I need some new reading. I liked your link but I also think I need a book on the virtues of the faith.

As your link stated "virtue means: something on which everything else hinges"

I have two books on virtue both I would recommend.

1.) The Heart of Virtue [Donald DeMarco, 1996]

2.) Back to Virtue [Peter Kreeft, 1986]

both from Inatius Press San Francisco.

I haven't checked to see if they are still in print.

The first one touches specifically on the following virtues:

Care
Chastity
Compassion
Courage
Determination
Faith
Fedelity
Generosity
Gratiousness
Gratitude
Holiness
Hope
Humility
Integrity
Justice
Loyalty
Meekness
Mercy
Mirthfulness
Modesty
Patience
Piety
Prudence
Reverence
Sincerity
Temperance
Wisdom


The second one by Kreeft touches on culture, hisotry and civilization in its current state while addressing;

The four cardinal virtues
The three theological virtues
How the Beatitudes confront the seven deadly sins
Poor in Spirit vs, Proud in Heart
Mercy vs. Avarice
Mourning vs. Envy
Meek and Peacemakers vs. the Anger driven
Hunger for Righteousness vs. Satisfaction with sloth
Pure of heart vs. Lustful of heart
etc etc...

Hope this is helpful.


Talent is nurtured in solitude; character is formed in the stormy billows of the world. - Goethe

Phi 4:8 For the rest, brothers, whatever is true, whatever honorable, whatever is right, whatever pure, whatever lovely, whatever of good report, if of any virtue, and if of any praise, think on these things.


Peace.

 

[stephenc]

Quote:
Originally Posted by CatholicFlame
Stephen,

What are all the virtues besides faith hope and love?

Thank you


Faith, Hope and Love/Charity are the three theological virtues. Peguy's work is specifically concerned with Hope, as "the most difficult, and most pleasing to God". Or to put it another way; his work is all about learning to accept Hope, and as such is wonderful and uplifting.

The other virtues have been summarised by JoabAnias, but in Cathecism the 4 cardinal virtues (I translate) are:

Wisdom, Justice, Courage and Temperance.

 

[JoabAnias]

Quote:
Originally Posted by CatholicFlame
Stephen,

What are all the virtues besides faith hope and love?

Thank you


Faith, Hope and Love/Charity are the three theological virtues. Peguy's work is specifically concerned with Hope, as "the most difficult, and most pleasing to God". Or to put it another way; his work is all about learning to accept Hope, and as such is wonderful and uplifting.

The other virtues have been summarised by JoabAnias, but in Cathecism the 4 cardinal virtues (I translate) are:

Wisdom, Justice, Courage and Temperance.

I don't remember where I heard it now (maybe some can help) but I recall a quote from a saint that said all virtued proceed from humility. I believe it is so as it seems humility is lacking in denial of any of the others or in any sin as well.

Peace.

 

[stephenc]

OK, I've started on "Rome, Sweet Rome" by Scott Hahn. It's a well-written, easyish read. May make fuller "judgement" when I've finished the book.

 

[CatholicFlame]

Oh Stephen I hope that you love that book. I couldn't put it down. I used to take a bus to a library just to read it because I had library fees that kept me from taking it home. But I would go there just to read a few more chapters! Loved that book.

 

[holysee]

Pope Benedicts first two Encyclicals have been on Love and Hope so I'm guessing the next will be on Faith. BTW I love Spe Salvi his second Encyclical and recommend it.

I think that since Pride is the sin that led Satan to fall its opposite virtue, Humility is at the root and foundation of all virtue in the same way that Pride is at the root of all sin. Jesus and Mary are both notable for their great humility. I think this, by Saint Francis of Assisi is a great illustration of that and other virtues http://www.franciscan-archive.org/index2.html
[FONT=VERDANA,TIMES NEW ROMAN][SIZE=-0][FONT=VICTORIAN,TIMES NEW ROMAN][SIZE=+4]T[/SIZE][/FONT]he same (fr. Leonard) recalled there that one day blessed Francis, while at St. Mary's (of the Angels), called friar Leo and said: "Friar Leo, write." · Who responded: "Behold I am ready." · "Write—he said—what is perfect gladness?" · A messenger comes and says that all the masters of Paris have entered the Order, write, "not true gladness." · Likewise that all the prelates beyond the Alps, archbishops and bishops; likewise that the King of France and the King of England: write, "not true gladness." · Likewise, that my friars went among the infidels and converted them all to the Faith; likewise that I have from God this grace, that I heal the infirm and work many miracles: I say to you that in all these things there is not true gladness. · But what is true gladness? · I return from Perugia and in the dead of night I come here and it is winter time, muddy and what is more, so frigid, that icicles have congealed at the edge of my tunic and they always pierce my shins, and blood comes forth from such wounds. · And entirely (covered) with mud and in the cold and ice, I come to the gate, and after I knock for a long time and call, there comes a friar and he asks: "Who is it? I respond: "Friar Francis." · And he says: "Go away; it is not a decent hour for travelling; you shall not enter." · And again he would respond to (me) insisting: "Go away; you are a simpleton and an idiot; you do not measure up to us; we are so many and such men, that we are not in need of you!" · And I stand again at the gate and I say: "For the love ([/SIZE][/FONT]amor[FONT=VERDANA,TIMES NEW ROMAN][SIZE=-0]) of God take me in this night." · And he would respond: "I will not! Go away to the place of Crosiers and ask there." · I say to you that if I will have had patience and will not have been disturbed, that in this is true gladness and true virtue and soundness of soul.[/SIZE][/FONT]

 

[CatholicFlame]

HolySee,

That was from The Little Flowers of St. Francis, one of my all time favorite books. Any catholic who reads that will fall in love with the way of St. Francis of Assisi.

Thank you for that quote!

 

[stephenc]

Oh Stephen I hope that you love that book. I couldn't put it down. I used to take a bus to a library just to read it because I had library fees that kept me from taking it home. But I would go there just to read a few more chapters! Loved that book.

I do like it; and it's helped me very much with problems I've had about Marian veneration.

 

[CatholicFlame]

I do like it; and it's helped me very much with problems I've had about Marian veneration.

Oh if that is the case, pick up Hail Holy Queen next, one of Scott Hahn's other awesome books.

He was so anti-catholic before that he ripped his late grandmother's rosary beads in two.

 

[MoNiCa4316]

HolySee,

That was from The Little Flowers of St. Francis, one of my all time favorite books. Any catholic who reads that will fall in love with the way of St. Francis of Assisi.

Thank you for that quote!

That sounds good! I really like St. Francis....maybe I'll read that book!

 

[MoNiCa4316]

Oh Stephen I hope that you love that book. I couldn't put it down. I used to take a bus to a library just to read it because I had library fees that kept me from taking it home. But I would go there just to read a few more chapters! Loved that book.

I just have to comment on this: I owe the library a whole fortune LOL I can't take books out either! Aren't we just so punctual

 

[JoabAnias]

I just have to comment on this: I owe the library a whole fortune LOL I can't take books out either! Aren't we just so punctual

I was a librarian assistant for a year in college. They used to be very forgiving of back dues. Now, if you lost books, that might be a different story but if they are just dues you might ask for a reprieve. If you had got me at the counter I would just give you a clean slate.

Peace.

 

[stephenc]

Enjoying the letters of Karl Rahner; recommended to me here.

I like Karl Rahner. He senses the struggle many of us have.

 

[holysee]

I would now add "The Prayer of Love and Silence" by A Carthusian to my list. It is a wonderful wonderful really profound reflection on the Carthusian way of silence, prayer and contemplation. And it says such lovely things about Our Lady too.

 

[petergar]

I'm a newbie around here - as well as being a renewed Catholic. Here are my favorite books:

Anne Rice (Yup, the gal who wrote the Vampire Lestat series and others)
--Out of Egypt
--The Road To Cana

Walter Wangerin
-The Book of God
-Paul - A Novel
-Jesus - A Novel (Although I've yet to read it, i cant wait)

Joseph Ratzinger (Pope Benedict)
Compendium of the Catechism of the Catholic Church (Good reference book)

40 Authors
Bible (where it all starts!)

 

[petergar]

Oh. I forgot the following:

Christ Among Us
Wilhelm.

Great book on explaining the Catholic church after Vatican II.