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And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
Without acknowledging it or perhaps not even realizing it some Baptists are traditionalists. They accept doctrines they are taught without being good Bereans and studying scripture to see for themselves if what they are being "feed" is true. They uphold the traditions they have inherited. This passage is a good example of traditionalism.
The word "world" can be understood in different ways. (I recommend A. W. Pink's study of the Greek word kosmos.) To understand how a word is being used we must look at the context in which it is being used, what comes before and what comes after that word should define how we understand that word. For a quick example have a look at Luke 2.1 were we read, "a decree from Caesar Augustus, that all the world should be taxed." We would not assume, in this context, that Caesar decreed to tax the Chinese or the Natives of North America for that would be a foolish interpretation of the passage. We read the passage and rightly conclude that Caesar's decree to tax the world meant the known world or the Roman world and not every single person who ever lived.
In 1 John 2.2 we see the word "world" being used again. In this same verse we find the word propitiation. To understanding the meaning of word "world" in this verse we need to look at what goes before it and what comes after it and when we do we find the word propitiation. Propitiation means, "The act of appeasing wrath and conciliating the favor of an offended person..." We can conclude this verse to mean that Christ's death result in the removal of God's wrath.
The Universalist claims this passage means that Christ died for every single person who ever lived and God's wrath is removed from everyone. Everyone gets to heaven with or without belief since God died for every single person who ever lived. We know universalism is false for Christ had much to teach on the subject of hell.
Others believe that Christ died for every single person who ever lived but that God's wrath is not removed until the sinner generates saving faith in that propitiation. Of course this cannot be found in the passage and should not be considered a good interpretation of it.
What does the quoted passage actually teach? It's very simple when considering the context...just like we did with the passage from Luke. If hell is real, and it is, and if God's wrath has been removed from the people for whom Christ died then Christ could not have died for every single person who ever lived. The passage is teaching us that Christ died for us (a reference to the Jews) and for world (non Jews). It's really that simple. "And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation; And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad." John 11:51-52
When any of us approach the Bible we come with presuppositions, things we presuppose to be true, traditions that are not scriptural and filter the scriptures through these beliefs.
As Baptists we should know better and I pray you will continue to be good Bereans and search the scriptures.
jm
And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
Without acknowledging it or perhaps not even realizing it some Baptists are traditionalists. They accept doctrines they are taught without being good Bereans and studying scripture to see for themselves if what they are being "feed" is true. They uphold the traditions they have inherited. This passage is a good example of traditionalism.
The word "world" can be understood in different ways. (I recommend A. W. Pink's study of the Greek word kosmos.) To understand how a word is being used we must look at the context in which it is being used, what comes before and what comes after that word should define how we understand that word. For a quick example have a look at Luke 2.1 were we read, "a decree from Caesar Augustus, that all the world should be taxed." We would not assume, in this context, that Caesar decreed to tax the Chinese or the Natives of North America for that would be a foolish interpretation of the passage. We read the passage and rightly conclude that Caesar's decree to tax the world meant the known world or the Roman world and not every single person who ever lived.
In 1 John 2.2 we see the word "world" being used again. In this same verse we find the word propitiation. To understanding the meaning of word "world" in this verse we need to look at what goes before it and what comes after it and when we do we find the word propitiation. Propitiation means, "The act of appeasing wrath and conciliating the favor of an offended person..." We can conclude this verse to mean that Christ's death result in the removal of God's wrath.
The Universalist claims this passage means that Christ died for every single person who ever lived and God's wrath is removed from everyone. Everyone gets to heaven with or without belief since God died for every single person who ever lived. We know universalism is false for Christ had much to teach on the subject of hell.
Others believe that Christ died for every single person who ever lived but that God's wrath is not removed until the sinner generates saving faith in that propitiation. Of course this cannot be found in the passage and should not be considered a good interpretation of it.
What does the quoted passage actually teach? It's very simple when considering the context...just like we did with the passage from Luke. If hell is real, and it is, and if God's wrath has been removed from the people for whom Christ died then Christ could not have died for every single person who ever lived. The passage is teaching us that Christ died for us (a reference to the Jews) and for world (non Jews). It's really that simple. "And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation; And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad." John 11:51-52
When any of us approach the Bible we come with presuppositions, things we presuppose to be true, traditions that are not scriptural and filter the scriptures through these beliefs.
As Baptists we should know better and I pray you will continue to be good Bereans and search the scriptures.
jm
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