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‘How Low Can You Go?’: CNN’s Harry Enten Unpacks Democrats’ ‘Horrible’ Ratings

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So what if an archbishop was calling President Trump to apologize? Does that mean President Trump was responsible? During the summer of 2024, many students referred to President Biden as "Genocide Joe". Does that mean President Biden was supporting genocide? These kinds of things happen in politics.

Some Republicans claim that President Trump was uniquely targeted by other politicians, suggesting this is unprecedented. However, all politicians face severe criticism. For example, Hillary Clinton was accused by certain factions of extreme acts such as harming infants, during President Obama's tenure, 30% of Americans questioned his citizenship, and President Bush was critiqued by opponents for allegedly lying and initiating conflict for profit.
So if Trump has a rally and the band sings"Does Allah have a big fat (sex organ)" then Trump can't be criticized for it?
 
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I was a solid democrat for years.
I am more of an independent actually
But the Democratic Party keeps crossing lines and this is the final straw.
I will never go back or even consider splitting the ticket
I don't fear any man, even the Orange Man Bad but I do fear God
And the democrats are now out of the closet on that issue

This isn't JFK's Democratic Party
Or my favorite President, Harry S. Truman.
Was that a yes or no?
 
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I'm kind of surprised that you have such a blasé opinion about something so blasphemous. But I guess it's important to downplay even the things that disparage your own faith in favor of propping up your preferred politicians.
And I'm kind of surprised that the lyrics of a song are more offensive to you than a president proposing to turn land made fertile by the blood of 45,000 Palestinians in Gaza (where half the population is children) into the Riviera of the eastern Mediterranean. I'm surprised that it's more offensive than a president proposing to the heroic leader of a country invaded by a brutal despot (admired by the president) that America's donation of $100 billion, mostly in old military weaponry, should require the heroic leader's country to give America trillions of mineral rights. I'm surprised that it's more offensive than our president dividing the spoils with the brutal dictator without the participation of the heroic leader.
I'm surprised that it's more offensive than the appointment of a Secretary of HHS who proposes letting all the chickens catch Avian flu so that the "immune ones" can be isolated---not considering that such a rate of infection would create more serious mutations which have resulted in two human deaths so far. RFK, Jr. proposes to stop the resurgence of measles after decades of vaccine-fused immunity by "Vitamin C."
More offensive than a president who does not recognize the Checks and Balances power of the judiciary?

These lyrics, which would have died unheard of by any more than the thousands of people up in Wisconsin, are so offensive that you would allow all of these things to take place?

It is a state of misplaced priorities so horrific I cannot even imagine how such a thing would be possible.
 
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Then whatever was sung or said at the rally was irrelevant.
The democratic party has to woo the "used to be" democrats.
And that wasn't a lullaby to woo me
It was the final straw
Not going back no more, no more
 
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It is a state of misplaced priorities so horrific I cannot even imagine how such a thing would be possible.
Matthew 12: 31 -32 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven.
 
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Matthew 12: 31 -32 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven.
So should Christians shun people who aren’t (likely) to be “saved”?
Or share a society with such?
How’s that work?
 
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So should Christians shun people who aren’t (likely) to be “saved”?
Or share a society with such?
How’s that work?
I am not going to political rallies where God is blasphemed.
I am not going to vote for a politician or a political party that invites such behavior

But I will still share what I have, the Gospel
For instance, I don't have to do drugs or vote for drug users to minister and share with same
 
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Here is one of the definitions of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit:
  • It goes beyond mere words or actions and involves a hardened heart that rejects the convicting and transformative work of the Holy Spirit.

  • What does God command us to do? To love Him and love our neighbor as ourselves. This is the "convicting and transformative work" the Holy Spirit strives to achieve in "hardened hearts."

  • In other words, those whose hearts are hardened against the Holy Spirit's effort to transform them into people who love others as themselves are the real blasphemers. The cruel. The selfish. The ungenerous. The unkind.
    https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=34bf...waGVteS1vZi10aGUtaG9seS1zcGlyaXQuaHRtbA&ntb=1

 
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Here is one of the definitions of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit:
  • It goes beyond mere words or actions and involves a hardened heart that rejects the convicting and transformative work of the Holy Spirit.

  • What does God command us to do? To love Him and love our neighbor as ourselves. This is the "convicting and transformative work" the Holy Spirit strives to achieve in "hardened hearts."

  • In other words, those whose hearts are hardened against the Holy Spirit's effort to transform them into people who love others as themselves are the real blasphemers. The cruel. The selfish. The ungenerous. The unkind.
    https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=34bf...waGVteS1vZi10aGUtaG9seS1zcGlyaXQuaHRtbA&ntb=1
Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit was when the scribes attributed Jesus healing someone as being the work of the devil
Mar 3:28 - “Assuredly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they may utter;
Mar 3:29 - “but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is subject to eternal condemnation”—
Mar 3:30 - because they said, “He has an unclean spirit.”
 
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And I'm kind of surprised that the lyrics of a song are more offensive to you

Why are you talking about gradations of offense? Is it because it allows you to rationalize away the offensiveness of the song?

than a president proposing to turn land made fertile by the blood of 45,000 Palestinians in Gaza (where half the population is children) into the Riviera of the eastern Mediterranean. I'm surprised that it's more offensive than a president proposing to the heroic leader of a country invaded by a brutal despot (admired by the president) that America's donation of $100 billion, mostly in old military weaponry, should require the heroic leader's country to give America trillions of mineral rights. I'm surprised that it's more offensive than our president dividing the spoils with the brutal dictator without the participation of the heroic leader.
I'm surprised that it's more offensive than the appointment of a Secretary of HHS who proposes letting all the chickens catch Avian flu so that the "immune ones" can be isolated---not considering that such a rate of infection would create more serious mutations which have resulted in two human deaths so far. RFK, Jr. proposes to stop the resurgence of measles after decades of vaccine-fused immunity by "Vitamin C."
More offensive than a president who does not recognize the Checks and Balances power of the judiciary?

All of your political pontifications don't heve anything at all to do with the fact that your political hero allowed a blasphemous, vulgar song to be performed at his rally and you don't seem to care at all. Do you find the song offensive?

Newsflash: Sanders was never running for office. Trump and Harris were. I thought they were both horrendous candidates so I voted for neither.
 
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So should Christians shun people who aren’t (likely) to be “saved”?

I think there is a vast difference between "shunning" someone and simply staying away from them. I think most people stay away from those things they don't like. For example, I'm not a fan of shock and off-color comedy, so I stay away from comedy clubs that promote such acts. I don't think anyone could accurately call that "shunning".

Or share a society with such?

Sure. In fact, I support the right for this blasphmous song to be performed. Free speech and all that. But I do find it troubling that professing Christians are willing to overlook such a blasphemous display because they agree with the political speeches that followed.
 
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Actually - the all important mid terms are less than two years away.

The Democrats need to really examine themselves.
Exactly! They should embrace a far left politician who disinhibits their absolute worst qualities and political instincts.

After all, that’s what’s worked for the right this past decade.
 
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Exactly! They should embrace a far left politician who disinhibits their absolute worst qualities and political instincts.

After all, that’s what’s worked for the right this past decade.
Bernie or AOC?
 
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Bernie or AOC?
Neither.

Honestly, I have no idea who could lead the democrats but as evidenced by Trump’s success in the last election, moving to the center shouldn’t even be a consideration.
 
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Why are you talking about gradations of offense? Is it because it allows you to rationalize away the offensiveness of the song?



All of your political pontifications don't heve anything at all to do with the fact that your political hero allowed a blasphemous, vulgar song to be performed at his rally and you don't seem to care at all. Do you find the song offensive?

Newsflash: Sanders was never running for office. Trump and Harris were. I thought they were both horrendous candidates so I voted for neither.
TBT I hear so much non-stop offensive vulgarity whenever the president is on TV that it desensitizes me, and sets a terrible example for other Americans in the public eye as they see disgusting vulgarity is effective.
The singer is the result of the gutter level of discourse we hear from certain political leaders.
 
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TBT I hear so much non-stop offensive vulgarity whenever the president is on TV that it desensitizes me, and sets a terrible example for other Americans in the public eye as they see disgusting vulgarity is effective.
The singer is the result of the gutter level of discourse we hear from certain political leaders.
The singer didn’t say a few cuss words, it was blasphemy of the worst kind and I am truly shocked that you continue to make excuses for her/they
 
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