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Islamic State in Iraq orders genital mutilation of all women
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<blockquote data-quote="Standing_Ultraviolet" data-source="post: 66056354" data-attributes="member: 266500"><p>There were some fundamental differences between Japan and Iraq. For one thing, Japan didn't have so many underlying social issues. Japan had a sense of national unity that survived World War II. It's one of the oldest coherent civilizations on Earth. Iraq, on the other hand, is just a state cut from the ruins of the Ottoman Empire and cobbled together from a lot of groups who don't like each other. For another, Japan did not have the levels of religious extremism seen in Iraq. What worked in Japan would not necessarily have worked in Iraq. Invading Japan was <em>still </em>a messy business. We basically bombed the country to oblivion, killing hundreds of thousands of civilians, and not just in the two obvious cases. Still, the state in Japan wasn't a spiderweb of twisting columns and wires built on shifting sand like the state in Iraq.</p><p></p><p>So, how long were we supposed to be there, if close to a decade wasn't enough? We've been in Afghanistan for <em>over </em>a decade, and if we were to leave, the government would almost certainly fall within a few years. These countries will probably take half a century or more to rebuild, and there's no guarantee that we're going to like what takes their place.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Standing_Ultraviolet, post: 66056354, member: 266500"] There were some fundamental differences between Japan and Iraq. For one thing, Japan didn't have so many underlying social issues. Japan had a sense of national unity that survived World War II. It's one of the oldest coherent civilizations on Earth. Iraq, on the other hand, is just a state cut from the ruins of the Ottoman Empire and cobbled together from a lot of groups who don't like each other. For another, Japan did not have the levels of religious extremism seen in Iraq. What worked in Japan would not necessarily have worked in Iraq. Invading Japan was [I]still [/I]a messy business. We basically bombed the country to oblivion, killing hundreds of thousands of civilians, and not just in the two obvious cases. Still, the state in Japan wasn't a spiderweb of twisting columns and wires built on shifting sand like the state in Iraq. So, how long were we supposed to be there, if close to a decade wasn't enough? We've been in Afghanistan for [I]over [/I]a decade, and if we were to leave, the government would almost certainly fall within a few years. These countries will probably take half a century or more to rebuild, and there's no guarantee that we're going to like what takes their place. [/QUOTE]
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