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That math equation for gravity only works under very strict conditions. One condition is to freeze time. The other condition is no spin on either masses, and no relative motion. No angular momentum and no linear momentum. A second term is needed for those momentums.

There are two physical pillars. Only two in all creation. Both are symmetrical. But the interaction of the two, is asymmetrical. Only man, would watch the universe, match a math equation, and declare the laws which make it work. Nature has no life or intellect, but joins with all creation...

There is another aspect about gravity in which I do not agree. This is the "evidence" of gravity bending light. I can remember in high school of doing experiments with a flash light and a large fish bowl of different solutions. In some solutions there was a sharp density gradient, called a...

Nature has never heard of math. Nature is a balance of asymmetric motion.

I do not believe that gravity affects in the manner that we think it does. I do not believe that it causes an elliptical orbit of planets. Like the orbits that we have observed and measured for hundreds of years. I believe it to be an illusion and nature has been laughing at us. I think our...

Ok....well pardon me gentlemen......I had no idea it was looked at in that manner. If that is the case, this conversation is useless. Please disregard my comments. Have a good weekend.

Wait a second. You mean that for ID......a human had to design it? I have been misinformed. If ID is human......No way would I believe that. That is the first time I had heard that context.

"So all we have here is a: 'My opinion is better than your opinion argument'." This is true. But, that is the other side too. What would convince anyone this ID is correct? Science uses mass and energy and velocity to explain reality. What if the secret to understanding and relating...

Hello Ophiolite. The reference to mathematical probability is part of the argument against I.D. It's part of science's argument. Not mine. I was comparing their stance to the stance of I.D. You say that argument is from the drake equation...ok. Is that the only probability they use...

Pardon me Ophiolite. There seems to be some confusion. I went back and read our posts. I did not make any assumptions or use the Drake equation for my premise. The only evidence to promote a view about it.....is the spectra. That spectra does not require that the alien life have...

"What is that assumption?" that life is not from a natural process, and it's unique to this planet. "On the contrary. I am not, in this context, using probability. I simply pointed out the assumptions inherent in your use of probability when you implicitly invoked the Drake equation." Sorry...

I am only making one assumption. And the detectable evidence agrees with that assumption. You are using probability......and look at all the assumptions/conditions needed for it. Even if the alien life were just primordial, it should be common, and we would see spectra of it. Even if it...

Ok, well since nature has an almost unlimited area, material and time to accomplish a life combination, we should have detected it. In all directions and areas. According to mathematical probability, many civilizations should have come and gone. The EM pollution would last much longer than...

Thank you for your welcome. Which speculation, life not being natural or the unifying dynamic?

I do not believe in intelligent design, for what I believe to be the truthful physical dynamic for mass and motion, is a perfect design. It all fits automatically in just certain ways. I have worked with and studied science all my life and I believe that what modern science believes reality...