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You cannot say the whole universe is open or closed in itself. The universe itself is just celestial bodies in a vaccum, so we must account for those individual bodies. The earth is not "partially" closed, there is no such thing.

I have to get some shut-eye, but we can discuss tomorrow.

Let me ask you this, if I was a Muslim and I told you that my god was true and I did not present any evidence, what would you say?

Allah, Vishnu, Krishna, Zeus, Bondye, etc...

Designed by whom? You cannot assert the biblical god is your creator without evidence. Just like you would ask a Muslim to prove Allah is the one true god.

My friend, I did not make a claim yet. The burden of proof is still on you. How are you going to jump to me when you have not even presented any evidence yet?

What do you mean "how about me", it is irrelevant?

"Face it, you wouldn't believe in Allah, or Buddha, or Kali, or Krishna unless they appeared right in front of you. That's the only evidence you would accept: Obviously a complex universe fine tuned for our extraordinary existence isn't enough for you. No one convinced me they existed with...

But that is not how rationalism and empiricism work. We live in the natural, not the spiritual. You are trying to tap-dance to say "god done it" without giving me scientific proof. Just answer the question using scientific evidence.

The statements that I prohibited are not ways to prove the existance of god. If a Muslim used those, would you believe him?

Circular logic...

The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics says that systems that are isolated or closed can only become more chaotic. Earth is not a closed system, therefore that law does not apply to it. We evolutionists do not believe an accident conceived us. It was a system of natural processes.

No anecdotes (personal events) No long commentaries. Use scientific evidence. Preaching is not evidence, but simply restating your claim. No circular logic. (Bible is true because it says so.)

I truly love Halo. I love the story and the whole entire series itself. Thoughts?

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