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  1. Pentateuch and Yeshua

    The Pharaoh of the Exodus: Why..

    You've seen what happens when people have named the two Nimrods (Nimrod being a title not name, too), Gilgamesh and Tammuz. They get wrapped up in studying paganism and conspiracy theories and figuring out deceptions and relating the pagan religion to everything (and what they find may well be...
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    how is passover celebrated ?

    The Hebrews (Hyksos) and the Egyptians most likely would have believed him (most likely Thutmosis II) to be he Phariah's son, and he might or might not have grown up knowing that he was an Israelite and adopted. The Hyksos were probably mostly white and olive skinned according to the paintings...
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    how is passover celebrated ?

    There will never be a last passover. It was decreed FOREVER.
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    how is passover celebrated ?

    We have a nice family meal consisting of meat that can constitute the meat of a "sacrifice" (although it's not literally a sacrifice for obvious reasons, so we do the closest possible to show our willingness and gratitude) - lamb or beef (slow cooked and then pulled beef brisket is amazing for...
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    Problems with Paul

    Except that NOMOS means law and is used as Torah in many places in the Greek, and AFAIK (I will check this!) NOMOS is used for Torah in the Septuagint. That translation you've used states "law". Torah is law and is irrefutably the law that Paul is speaking of when he speaks of the law being...
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    Problems with Paul

    It's funny how native Greek speakers and people who have a proficient level of Greek don't agree. Paul says the same in the English translations as he says in the Greek, he wasn't mistranslated to any degree that changes the meaning of the text in any way, even between multiple translations that...
  7. Pentateuch and Yeshua

    Debate-For MJ's Only Cases for and against buying/shopping on the sabbath

    In my experience, a slight majority (as opposed to an overwhelming majority) of people who identify or could be identified by the labels of Messianic Jew, Messianic Gentile Believer or similar, consider Paul to be an authority, I would say (judging purely from my own experience of coming across...
  8. Pentateuch and Yeshua

    Jewish people have a separate way of salvation

    Sorry to go off topic, why are you an "ex member of Judaism" ? Just curious. You can PM instead if you want to answer, but you feel it would derail the topic too much.
  9. Pentateuch and Yeshua

    Jewish people have a separate way of salvation

    The animal sacrifice has the same role in Torah as paying fines do in statutory law. The death penalty in countries and states that still use it, has the same role as the death penalty in Torah. Largely, imprisonment has replaced the death penalty and so long-term imprisonment can be considered...
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    Jewish people have a separate way of salvation

    The laws relating to the temple and sacrifices are not done away with though, they are simply not physically possible to observe, not observing them isn't an act of rebellion but is based on what is possible and what is not. Deuteronomy 28 through to the end of 30 tells us about the Israelites...
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    Debate-For MJ's Only Cases for and against buying/shopping on the sabbath

    Paul is only considered to be an authority to christians and a percentage of MJs/Messianic Gentile converts, Torah is the ultimate authority, but yes, Paul's position on homosexuality (of both genders) is one of the few things he and I agree on (though his attempt to explain where it comes from...
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    What is Messianic Judaism

    Without Paul, the ONLY case against Torah observance would be secularism (atheism, Darwinism, humanism, whatever you want to call it), to destroy the very foundation of scripture and therefore any reason for Torah observance. The pagans found another way, bury the arguments against Torah in the...
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    Is a claim evidence of truth?

    I love this phrase : That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Scripturally, we need witnesses, evidence is a form of witness, as is a claim of direct observation which stands up to scrutiny. Scripture is all testable by Torah, and Torah is not just a...
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    question about MJ

    I've never been to a messianic congregation, I haven't been to a christian church since I left school (catholic school) except for events such as funerals, and I've only ever been to a synagogue once and that was a school trip. Why am I telling you this? You don't find Yeshua or the creator...
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    question about MJ

    "If you turn away from your transgressions and turn to my law I shall wash your blood stained robes clean" Obey Torah and your sins will be forgiven - your "scars" or tattoos will remain unless you get rid of them but the rebellion they represent will no longer be counted against you. I used to...
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    What is Messianic Judaism

    The same can be said of anyone though TBH - even some of muhammed's thinking is in line with Torah and Yeshua, not much, mind, but some is!
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    What is Messianic Judaism

    Christians argue Paul taught that the law was ended, Messianic congregations argue that Paul was misunderstood by 2bn people today and billions over 2000 years... In reality Paul taught both. People who listen to the Creator and the messiah realise this is a non-issue, Paul is IRRELEVANT. Paul...
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    What is Messianic Judaism

    The New Testament was not compiled by Israelites (who had had everything revealed and corrected over time by the prophets) but by the catholic church, and thus EVERYTHING in the NT is subject to proof by its claims. Yeshua can be proven by the Torah and Tanakh to a strong degree, and there is...
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    Jewish people have a separate way of salvation

    We need "salvation" from eternal death like we need freedom from prison in the modern western world. *PARAGRAPH REMOVED* We are ALL subject to judgement, there is no "saved". We have been saved from living in sin purely because we have found the way to please the God of Israel, whether we...