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  1. Dr Bruce Atkinson

    THE SABBATH IS GOD'S 4th COMMANDMENT - WHERE IS THE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS IT IS ABOLISHED?

    I hear no grace in your response, only a sense of superiority. And I must say that you have zero authority over me. Why should I answer your many questions according to your own requirements? If you insist on being a legalist, then I hope you are obeying every jot and tittle. Especially...
  2. Dr Bruce Atkinson

    THE SABBATH IS GOD'S 4th COMMANDMENT - WHERE IS THE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS IT IS ABOLISHED?

    Easy answer. Jesus was not only the Son of God and the Word of God made flesh, He was also a Jew. I am not. Of course he obeyed the Jewish customs and rules. He was circumcised and did all the necessary things that a good Jew was expected to do according to the OT scriptures. But Paul and...
  3. Dr Bruce Atkinson

    THE SABBATH IS GOD'S 4th COMMANDMENT - WHERE IS THE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS IT IS ABOLISHED?

    LoveGodsWord, This is a very old topic and legalists, Seventh Day Adventists, and Messianic Jews will keep bringing it up. And they are in error because they do not really understand who Jesus is as "the-Word-of-God-made-flesh" nor do they understand the freedom in Christ which the Apostles...
  4. Dr Bruce Atkinson

    Heresy of Perfectionism (aka Sinless Perfectionism)

    Does God demand perfection? Or does He care what we do? Of course God demands perfection, that was the point of the Law. It was to show us how impossible it was to obey it perfectly ... so we would admit the truth that we were imperfect sinners who could not possibly get to heaven on our own...
  5. Dr Bruce Atkinson

    Praying to Saints

    IF you do not think your father can hear you or does not love you enough to listen, then it makes sense to go to someone else and ask them to talk to your father. But if you have a good relationship and if you trust your father, you will go directly to him to speak. I confess that as a child...
  6. Dr Bruce Atkinson

    Praying to Saints

    You obviously do not understand the Reformed view. You need not be sad. I am in no way less blessed or more limited by the fact that I can and do pray directly to the Father and Jesus for everything. I too have witnessed many miracles from God through the prayers made directly to Him...
  7. Dr Bruce Atkinson

    Praying to Saints

    Prodromos, Your "probably" says it all. Your logic is of men, not God. It is not about love, except for love of God, it is about what God tells us to do and does not tell us to do. You really don't have a clue in terms of the earliest Church (we get that information only from the NT...
  8. Dr Bruce Atkinson

    Praying to Saints

    I will not get into silly arguments about things we cannot truly answer. But I know what I can read in the Holy Scriptures and this is my authority. Jesus prophesied in parables that there would be goats and wolves in sheep's clothing among the sheep down here on earth, and weeds among the...
  9. Dr Bruce Atkinson

    Praying to Saints

    Not once is it recommended (and certainly not commanded) in Holy Writ to seek prayers from those who have gone on. Not once. Wonder why.... There certainly are lots of other commands and recommendations in the scriptures. Asking those who have died (even if they are alive in heaven) for...
  10. Dr Bruce Atkinson

    Praying to Saints

    So if you must repeat yourself, let me do so as well. Not once do the scriptures command or even suggest for believers to ask saints in heaven to pray for them. Not once is this clearly suggested... for a very good reason or two as others here have shown. There must a huge difference between...
  11. Dr Bruce Atkinson

    Praying to Saints

    Sometimes gotq has the best summaries available of what the scriptures actually reveal. In this case, it is quite so.
  12. Dr Bruce Atkinson

    Praying to Saints

    Not once do the scriptures command or even suggest for believers to ask saints in heaven to pray for them. Not once is this clearly suggested... for a very good reason or two as others here have shown. There must a huge difference between asking our friends and family here to pray for us...
  13. Dr Bruce Atkinson

    Praying to Saints

    The Bible nowhere indicates that Mary or other saints can hear our prayers or that she (or they) can mediate for us with God. Jesus is our only advocate and mediator in heaven (1 Timothy 2:5). If offered worship, adoration, or prayers, Mary would say the same as the angels: “Worship God...
  14. Dr Bruce Atkinson

    Praying to Saints

    I agree that this is why many do pray either to saints or ask them to pray for them. But they are wrong.
  15. Dr Bruce Atkinson

    Are Protestants dead?

    Accepted Christ, bear His Name, received eternal life,filled with His Spirit,are His child and part of 'the' Church.....I might say ....how is certainty attached to those requirements? How do I know I have r3eceived life that is unchanging when mine is in a process of change? Is there a sign to...
  16. Dr Bruce Atkinson

    Are Protestants dead?

    Yes, we have some records from the early church leaders (I don't like calling them "fathers" due to Jesus' command in Matthew 23:1-12). But there are definite differences between what the NT commanded (by Jesus and the Apostles) and what the churches actually developed as "tradition" over the...
  17. Dr Bruce Atkinson

    Are Protestants dead?

    Accepted Christ, bear His Name, received eternal life,filled with His Spirit,are His child and part of 'the' Church.....I might say ....how is certainty attached to those requirements? How do I know I have r3eceived life that is unchanging when mine is in a process of change? Is there a sign to...
  18. Dr Bruce Atkinson

    Are Protestants dead?

    Well said. So much of Roman (and even Eastern) church tradition strayed from the earliest NT Church... and began straying soon after the Apostles had gone home, instituting clericalism, ritualism, and a number of other culture-based revisions in the increasingly organized churches.
  19. Dr Bruce Atkinson

    Are Protestants dead?

    We worship using the bread and wine because Jesus commanded it of His disciples ... to help them (and us) to remember and celebrate two things... what Jesus did on the Cross for our salvation and the resulting union we have with Him forever. He is in us and we are in Him. By faith, not ritual...
  20. Dr Bruce Atkinson

    Are Protestants dead?

    Not so in protestant Anglicanism (which I can easily prove by their 39 Articles of Religion). It is also certainly NOT true in Lutheran churches. You will have to prove that other protestant denominations do not regard the Lord's Supper (or Holy Communion or Eucharist) as something...