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I'm not going to argue this fact. That is simply not true regarding Mass and according to my Sacramentary....but I'm not Anglican so we may be arguing apples and oranges here. :)

There is a Mass in the Old Catholic and in the Roman Rite actually that is called "Mass for a priest without a Congregation". Not sure about whether Anglicans have this or not.

Melchezidek.

Yes, yes I have.

Ah, yes the typical mambypamby liberal lovesong eh? ROTFL. Sorry, my goal was to use mambypamby in a sentence today and in no way actually reflects my thoughts on this issue.

Exactly.

Interesting thread.

So the BCP is like the Sacramentary in the Old Catholic arena? Anything and everything the Clergy need to perform sacerdotal duties all in one big book?

This conversation has gotten ridiculously liberal and convoluted which to me are one and the same. .

I agree with Canon Ashey. Amen.

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Glad I'm not alone in this. Carry on.

Nowadays...the Old Catholic Church in the USA is so convoluted you never know actually. Some use the Latin Trindentine only, and some groups in the OC movement have made up their own liturgy. I would say that there are indeed some OC groups that have been heavily influenced by evangelical...

I love the Tridentine Mass. :)

Just be careful OP...overemphasis on the Gifts is ruining some circles of the body of Christ sadly.

Indeed. :thumbsup:

It never states that Christ became disincarnate and unmade man. I disagree with you. Also I'm not trying to silence anyone....I'm trying to get this topic back on track. :)

Back on TOPIC: The ONLY problem I have is with the totally Unorthodox theology being spouted off in this thread before it derailed. Jesus rose bodily end of discussion, if you teach otherwise it's heretical teaching and if you don't like it leave because there is no room for debating that...

Ignorance is bliss.