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Do a little research and you will find that hundreds of them have been found...even as recently as the 1800's and 1900's...and even in the U.S. They are sitting in the back rooms of museums, locked away and unstudied.

The only truly important issue is for TB to come closer to Christ and the truth of Christ...same for every one of us. Maybe God will use this situation to further open his eyes in some way. What is best for TB is whatever is God's will.

I did not judge or gloat...some really need to get a grip on what "judgment" means. I did not condemn him to hell or any such thing. I posted a relevant scripture...period. If we cannot observe and recognize the relevance of scripture...and gain wisdom from Jesus saying "...if 'this', then...

Matthew 7: 7:15 `But, take heed of the false prophets, who come unto you in sheep's clothing, and inwardly are ravening wolves. 7:16 From their fruits ye shall know them; do `men' gather from thorns grapes? or from thistles figs? 7:17 so every good tree doth yield good fruits, but the bad...

Maybe it needs to be made clear that God is not warning us here about a bunch of hit and miss tornadoes that occur all the time anyway. What happens here is going to stand out...be worse. Manamar (not sure on spelling) is in a cyclone area...yet they haven't had a cyclone that killed over...

Actually....after I wrote this earlier I thought I should have noted that this was not directed at the OP. I agree with you about the OP...it was the ensuing conversation that I was asking about. And no...I'm not...I didn't talk about "those people" as if they were morons...I simply asked a...

Is it really any better to be sitting around talking about these others as if they are a bunch of fools...leaving the impression that you are somehow better, or even more righteous, than they by NOT doing these things?

Amazing how little things have changed with people "hearing" God's message since the times of Abraham, Moses, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Isaiah, etc.....isn't it?

You had that dream the night of June 23rd? You might want to check out this website and the second prophetic warning that was posted on June 23. http://www.godsglobalwarningnetwork.com/

Matthew: 10:11 `And into whatever city or village ye may enter, inquire ye who in it is worthy, and there abide, till ye may go forth. 10:12 And coming to the house salute it, 10:13 and if indeed the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it; and if it be not worthy, let your peace turn...

No...in fact, through one's ministry of spreading the Lord's word He commands not to amass riches: Matthew: 10:9 `Provide not gold, nor silver, nor brass in your girdles, 10:10 nor scrip for the way, nor two coats, nor sandals, nor staff -- for the workman is worthy of his nourishment...

Its exactly what we are looking for here...thanks!:thumbsup:

You can never "prove" to the blind that a rose is red, or the sky blue. They have to accept it themselves through faith.

Yes...and the one's performing those miracles were following Jesus' command to not amass wealth, not even for clothes, sandals, travel and lodging through their ministries. Not holding up a standard of financial gain through commanding angels. The one's performing those miracles were not...

What was on my mind at the time was simply this...there's been quite a bit of talk here and there about "intelligence" the last couple of days.... Intelligence is all well and good...yet lacking "wisdom" you are still nothing more than a "smart fool". So...focus on wisdom here....verses on...

Sometimes the most complicated issues can be expressed in the simplest of ways. For instance: It is simply my job to open the door and point the way. It is up to you to decide whether to take the journey or not. Just think about that for awhile.

Now THAT hits the nail on the head. Amen!

God can do anything he wants...but He won't. 1 Timothy: 2:3 for this `is' right and acceptable before God our Saviour, 2:4 who doth will all men to be saved, and to come to the full knowledge of the truth; 2:5 for one `is' God, one also `is' mediator of God and of men, the man Christ Jesus...

Great post, thank you for sharing it.

I understand where you are coming from...and I understand that all you see on tv and whatnot is these rubbish healings. I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiments about that. However...I can personally attest otherwise to what you say about complete healings of God "in modern times" by man's...