I would just like to know what everyone thinks on this subject. Do you have to be baptized before you are saved? If not, where does salvation come? I already have my mind made up, and will let you know after I read your thoughts. Thanks.
dldjr86 said:One thing I notice is that everyone goes back to the thief on the cross. Are there any more arguments besides that? And please, give scripture with every argument, not just your own opinion.
sbbqb7n16 said:And how do you know that the theif died before Christ did? We only know that he was on a cross with our Lord...
besides... I'd really hate to see the guy that believed in Christ, but couldn't make it to a body of water in time before the Rapture... we are only called to believe in the One whom the Father has sent (John 6:29). Funny how He didn't include all these legalistic requirements as well. You want to be baptized as a public display of your belief... go ahead and do it and give glory to God! Don't wanna do it just because you don't feel like it? Man you're missing out... Christ also said "now that you know these things, you will be blessed if you do them" (John 13:17) But in the end :
Rom*11:6 But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works, otherwise grace is no longer grace.
Eph*2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God