I would like to know what everyone has to say about the following which is very specific.
The Revelation to Yochanan 14:1 I saw, and behold, the Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with him a number, one hundred forty-four thousand, having his name, and the name of his Father, written on their foreheads. 2 I heard a sound from heaven, like the sound of many waters, and like the sound of a great thunder. The sound which I heard was like that of harpists playing on their harps. 3 They sing a new song before the throne, and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except the one hundred forty-four thousand, those who had been redeemed out of the earth.; 4 These are those who were not defiled with women, for they are virgins. These are those who follow the Lamb wherever he goes. These were redeemed by Yeshua from among men, the first fruits to God and to the Lamb. 5 In their mouth was found no lie, for they are blameless.
Why aren't women included here?
Paul's First Letter to Timothy
2:8 I desire therefore that the men in every place pray, lifting up holy hands without anger and doubting. 9 In the same way, that women also adorn themselves in decent clothing, with modesty and propriety; not just with braided hair, gold, pearls, or expensive clothing; 10 but (which becomes women professing godliness) with good works. 11 Let a woman learn in quietness with all subjection. 12 But I don't permit a woman to teach, nor to exercise authority over a man, but to be in quietness. 13 For Adam was first formed, then Havah. 2:14 Adam wasn't deceived, but the woman, being deceived, has fallen into disobedience; 15 but she will be saved through her childbearing, if they continue in faith, love, and sanctification with sobriety.
Paul's First Letter to the Corinthians
11:7 For a man indeed ought not to have his head covered, because he is the image and glory of God, but the woman is the glory of the man. 8 For man is not from woman, but woman from man; 9 for neither was man created for the woman, but woman for the man. 10 For this cause the woman ought to have authority on her head, because of the angels.
Can you please tell me the above doesn't mean like when Eve was decieved by Satan which is why a woman should have authority on her head. Is this above just refering to Hair?
Paul's First Letter to Timothy
3:1 This is a faithful saying: if a man seeks the office of an overseer, he desires a good work. 2 The overseer therefore must be without reproach, the husband of one wife, temperate, sensible, modest, hospitable, good at teaching;
In the Strong's this word is also translated Bishop:
1984 episkope ep-is-kop-ay' from 1980; inspection (for relief); by implication, superintendence; specially, the Christian "episcopate":--the office of a "bishop", bishoprick, visitation.
Why isn't Paul saying anything about a woman in an office of an overseer(Bishop)?
Paul's First Letter to Timothy
3:8 Servants, in the same way, must be reverent, not double-tongued, not addicted to much wine, not greedy for money; 3:9 holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience. 10 Let them also first be tested; then let them serve if they are blameless. 11 Their wives in the same way must be reverent, not slanderers, temperate, faithful in all things. 12 Let servants be husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well. 13 For those who have served well gain for themselves a good standing, and great boldness in the faith which is in Messiah Yeshua.
In the Strong's the word Servant is also translated Deacon:
1249 diakonos dee-ak'-on-os probably from an obsolete diako (to run on errands; compare 1377); an attendant, i.e. (genitive case) a waiter (at table or in other menial duties); specially, a Christian teacher and pastor (technically, a deacon or deaconess):--deacon, minister, servant.
Also how come the Messiah didn't have any Female Apostles? I don't even see any female Disciples as well. Can you please explain this with scripture? From everything I have read in the Tanakh and B'rit Khadashah I see YHWH has HIS order and ways we must go by. I don't see how most of the above has to do with marriage. There is more yet I am going to keep this short. I do understand YHWH has used women when the men weren't doing what HE wanted done in the Tanakh and in some places in the B'rit Khadashah. I am not implying anything here, I just want the TRUTH!!! For I know MAN and that includes WOMAN which both can WARP the WORD to imply what ever they want others to believe. So here is the first questions and scripture. Allot of the above was shortened because I had like three emails worth and therefore had to shorten it so as to be able to email it to an forum that uses emails to send to all fourm users.
Shalom and Shalom,
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The Revelation to Yochanan 14:1 I saw, and behold, the Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with him a number, one hundred forty-four thousand, having his name, and the name of his Father, written on their foreheads. 2 I heard a sound from heaven, like the sound of many waters, and like the sound of a great thunder. The sound which I heard was like that of harpists playing on their harps. 3 They sing a new song before the throne, and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except the one hundred forty-four thousand, those who had been redeemed out of the earth.; 4 These are those who were not defiled with women, for they are virgins. These are those who follow the Lamb wherever he goes. These were redeemed by Yeshua from among men, the first fruits to God and to the Lamb. 5 In their mouth was found no lie, for they are blameless.
Why aren't women included here?
Paul's First Letter to Timothy
2:8 I desire therefore that the men in every place pray, lifting up holy hands without anger and doubting. 9 In the same way, that women also adorn themselves in decent clothing, with modesty and propriety; not just with braided hair, gold, pearls, or expensive clothing; 10 but (which becomes women professing godliness) with good works. 11 Let a woman learn in quietness with all subjection. 12 But I don't permit a woman to teach, nor to exercise authority over a man, but to be in quietness. 13 For Adam was first formed, then Havah. 2:14 Adam wasn't deceived, but the woman, being deceived, has fallen into disobedience; 15 but she will be saved through her childbearing, if they continue in faith, love, and sanctification with sobriety.
Paul's First Letter to the Corinthians
11:7 For a man indeed ought not to have his head covered, because he is the image and glory of God, but the woman is the glory of the man. 8 For man is not from woman, but woman from man; 9 for neither was man created for the woman, but woman for the man. 10 For this cause the woman ought to have authority on her head, because of the angels.
Can you please tell me the above doesn't mean like when Eve was decieved by Satan which is why a woman should have authority on her head. Is this above just refering to Hair?
Paul's First Letter to Timothy
3:1 This is a faithful saying: if a man seeks the office of an overseer, he desires a good work. 2 The overseer therefore must be without reproach, the husband of one wife, temperate, sensible, modest, hospitable, good at teaching;
In the Strong's this word is also translated Bishop:
1984 episkope ep-is-kop-ay' from 1980; inspection (for relief); by implication, superintendence; specially, the Christian "episcopate":--the office of a "bishop", bishoprick, visitation.
Why isn't Paul saying anything about a woman in an office of an overseer(Bishop)?
Paul's First Letter to Timothy
3:8 Servants, in the same way, must be reverent, not double-tongued, not addicted to much wine, not greedy for money; 3:9 holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience. 10 Let them also first be tested; then let them serve if they are blameless. 11 Their wives in the same way must be reverent, not slanderers, temperate, faithful in all things. 12 Let servants be husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well. 13 For those who have served well gain for themselves a good standing, and great boldness in the faith which is in Messiah Yeshua.
In the Strong's the word Servant is also translated Deacon:
1249 diakonos dee-ak'-on-os probably from an obsolete diako (to run on errands; compare 1377); an attendant, i.e. (genitive case) a waiter (at table or in other menial duties); specially, a Christian teacher and pastor (technically, a deacon or deaconess):--deacon, minister, servant.
Also how come the Messiah didn't have any Female Apostles? I don't even see any female Disciples as well. Can you please explain this with scripture? From everything I have read in the Tanakh and B'rit Khadashah I see YHWH has HIS order and ways we must go by. I don't see how most of the above has to do with marriage. There is more yet I am going to keep this short. I do understand YHWH has used women when the men weren't doing what HE wanted done in the Tanakh and in some places in the B'rit Khadashah. I am not implying anything here, I just want the TRUTH!!! For I know MAN and that includes WOMAN which both can WARP the WORD to imply what ever they want others to believe. So here is the first questions and scripture. Allot of the above was shortened because I had like three emails worth and therefore had to shorten it so as to be able to email it to an forum that uses emails to send to all fourm users.
Shalom and Shalom,
Tag
