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Anyone here game and ready to tackle this with me? Let me know!
Read the book of Enoch? Is that one of the books in the Catholic Bible, part of the Apocrypha?
Just wanted to know what people here thought about it from the Nephilim to the hows and whys of God sending judgement in the form of the flood. I know many people reject the idea that the "sons of God" are fallen angels that mated with human women however this is what I believe. I also believe in literal giants that once walked the earth. I'd like to know if there is anyone else here that agrees with me on this.What part? Gimmee a break. I just typed 3 pages in word on Gen1:1-4. Could you narrow this down a bit?
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Read the book of Enoch for more insight.
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nephilimiyr
I know many people reject the idea that the "sons of God" are fallen angels that mated with human women however this is what I believe. I also believe in literal giants that once walked the earth.
Genesis 6 - The most remarkable thing we have upon record concerning the old world is the destruction of it by the universal deluge, the account of which commences in this chapter, wherein we have, I. The abounding iniquity of that wicked world (Gen_6:1-5, Gen_6:11, Gen_6:12). II. The righteous God's just resentment of that abounding iniquity, and his holy resolution to punish it (Gen_6:6, Gen_6:7). III. The special favour of God to his servant Noah. 1. In the character given of him (Gen_6:8-10) 2. In the communication of God's purpose to him (Gen_6:13, Gen_6:17). 3. In the directions he gave him to make an ark for his own safety (Gen_6:14-16). 4. In the employing of him for the preservation of the rest of the creatures (Gen_6:18-21). Lastly, Noah's obedience to the instructions given him (Gen_6:22). And this concerning the old world is written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the new would have come. Henry Commentary
Genesis 6 - INTRODUCTION TO GENESIS 6 This chapter gives an account of the wickedness of the old world, both among the profane and the professors of religion, which was taken notice of and resented by God, upon which he determined the destruction of it, Gen_6:1 only one man, Noah, is excepted, who found favour with God, and whose character is given, Gen_6:8 and to whom was observed by God the general corruption of the earth, Gen_6:11 and to whom he gave orders and directions for the building an ark for himself, and his family, being determined to destroy the earth with a flood, and all creatures in it, Gen_6:14 only he would preserve him and his wife, his three sons and their wives, and two of every living creature, for which, and for himself and his family, he was to take food into the ark when built, Gen_6:18 and the chapter is concluded with observing, that Noah did as he was commanded, Gen_6:22. Gill Commentary
Noah and Enoch are the two antediluvians of whom it is said that they "walked with God" Genesis 5:24; 6:9. Enoch, "translated that he should not see death" Hebrews 11:5 becomes a type of the saints who will be "caught up" before the great tribulation ; 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17; Revelation 3:10; Daniel 12:1; Matthew 24:21. Noah, preserved through the Flood, is a type of the Israelitish people who will be preserved through the tribulation Jeremiah 30:5-9. See "Tribulation" ; Psalms 2:5; Revelation 7:14.
"Ark": type of Christ as the refuge of His people from judgment Hebrews 11:7. In strictness of application this speaks of the preservation through the "great tribulation" Matthew 24:21,22 of the remnant of Israel who will turn to the Lord after the Church (typified by Enoch, who was translated to heaven before the judgment of the Flood) has been caught up to meet the Lord ; Genesis 5:22-24; 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 ; Hebrews 11:5; Isaiah 2:10,11; 26:20,21. But the type also has a present reference to the position of the believer "in Christ" (Ep 1.), etc. It should be noted that the word translated "pitch" in Genesis 6:14 is the same word translated "atonement" in Leviticus 17:11 etc. It is atonement that keeps out the waters of judgment and makes the believer's position "in Christ" safe and blessed. Old Scofield Study Bible
sons of GodSome hold that these "sons of God" were the "angels which kept not their first estate" Jude 1:6. It is asserted that the title is in the O.T. exclusively used of angels. But this is an error Isaiah 43:6. Angels are spoken of in a sexless way. No female angels are mentioned in Scripture, and we are expressly told that marriage is unknown among angels. Matthew 22:30.
Nephilimiyr, did you take into account that gen ch 5 had just given the linach of two human genealogy lines of Cain and Seth and do you think that has anything to do with the first few verses in chapter 6???
If you believe that there were giant humans, do you believe they are from this union hear??? Take a good look at this verse mate, It says there was already giants in the land in the days the sons of Seth took the daughters of Cain and from them came mighty men , men of renown. These offspring are not Giants , they are separate to the giants. These Giants or naphilium are not humans in my opinion and this verse seems to make the separation between these giants and these offspring which were men of renown or men of war, very clearly.
sons of GodSome hold that these "sons of God" were the "angels which kept not their first estate" Jude 1:6. It is asserted that the title is in the O.T. exclusively used of angels. But this is an error Isaiah 43:6. Angels are spoken of in a sexless way. No female angels are mentioned in Scripture, and we are expressly told that marriage is unknown among angels. Matthew 22:30.
Disclaimer: I am not a Pastor or a Theologian. I am just a regular Christian who tries to understand Gods word with my finite, human limitations. Most of this comes from Finis Dake Gods Plan for Man.
Laura
Why are the sons of Seth considered more godly than Cains sons any way? If these men were so godly how is it that they lusted after evil women? That would make their act a sin and in effect making them ungodly before they even married these daughters of Cain. I don't know you but if you are a Christian would you look for a wife in evil places, lets say among Satan worshipers or in your church?
If the passage was talking about human marriages causing sin throughout mankind I would think that first the evil sons of Cain would've lusted after the godly daughters of Seth. Wouldn't that make more sense?