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White House to host 9-hour prayer festival focused on Christian roots of U.S.

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"Speaker of the House Mike Johnson told God he was worried about a sinister ideology running loose in the land.

That was Sunday, on the National Mall, at a nine-hour prayer rally called “Rededicate 250.” Johnson had been given what he called the “humble assignment” of bringing the crowd “straight to the Lord.” He prayed for courage and patriotism. He prayed for the republic. And then he asked God to protect America from people who insist that the American story “can only be understood through the lens of our sins.”

Wait, what?




Maybe this is a subtle confession to the century or more of endless and needless aggressive warfare instigated by Washington to the benefit of the Epstein class of rulers of evil.
 
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What was the constitution of the colonies between 1776 and 1789? It remained the Articles of Confederation. Look it up.
They were no longer colonies. They were free states in a political union known as the United States of America.
That is a quote which in English is "new world order".
Not quite. "New order of the ages"


It is the same NWO that ...
Doesn't seem like it. The NWO of modern conspiracy theories is more about 'globalism' or something. Not really what the Founders were on about.
 
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My question leads to the real question: can you observe such a sign in America, put there in approval by the govt?
Not in Chicago but I can see local/state government elsewhere in the country defying the secular nature of our republic and putting such a sign up.
 
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Right. And I cannot vouch for all 13, but the original New England core had such statements in their founding documents.
Show some proof.
Yes, I tend to write long sentences, but smart people (like you) can parse them okay.
Bad writing is the problem of the writer, not the reader.
Yes it was. It overthrew the existing constitutions of the Colonies and substituted the U.S. Constitution as the new basis for govt. That is what rebellions do.
The 1787 Constitution did not arbitrarily overthrow the 1781 Articles of Confederation. It was a convention drafted document sent back to the states for their consideration. It was up to the states to accept or reject the new plan.
Yes, but before 1789, the govt was the colonial govt. It was replaced through the acts in 1789.
No, before 1789 the US government was the Articles of Confederation made by *independent* states (not colonies).
That is not the rebellion I am referring to, but the subsequent one in 1789. The colonies became independent of Britain in 1776. Then a few years later, in 1789, the colonial govt was replaced by the U.S. govt.
Did they not teach proper history in the 1960s?
The two assertions are not in conflict. The colonial govts recognized the lordship of Christ over the colonies, and their adherence to scripture in civil affairs shows this. George was king in name but the colonists had their own local govts of the states. The Articles of Confederation were their constitution.
Or how government works?
It has everything to do with "religion" in that it replaced the biblical religion with an Enlightenment religion. Because Enlightenment humanism is different, even antithetic to Christianity, does not put it in a different category. It is an alternative.
The Enlightenment is not a religion. I never saw any threat from it to my religion.
Read Tupper Saussy's book and find out. Jesuits do not proclaim their secret activities to the world. The real question is whether the Freemasons (such as most of the U.S. Founders) are controlled by the Jesuits. That is my working hypothesis, and it appears to be for Saussy too.

Well, that settles that!
Read Saussy and learn more.
An anti-Catholic conspiracy book? No thanks.
I am stating no more nor less that what I have stated about them. Learn to read.

One can kind of get that impression.
Nah. I just am not familiar with your odd brand of Christian theology.
 
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Thank you; they were the prophets - and created a cartoon series worth remembering!
The chorus was a chorus of voices, but Ragaini had the right solo voice for the two stanzas - a well-produced theme song!
I'll agree it's a great theme song, and a great show overall....prophets, though? Dunno about that.

-- A2SG, there's no need to fear....
 
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Gorsuch’s third book and his first for children... In interview after interview, he has described the United States as a “creedal nation” rooted not on race, ancestry or religion but on the ideals laid out in the Declaration of Independence: equality, natural rights and self-government. “Our nation is not founded on a religion,” Gorsuch told Reason. “It’s not based on a common culture, even, or heritage. It’s based on those [Enlightenment] ideas.”

But the conservative movement he is addressing increasingly does not trust institutions, constitutional restraints or even the Founders themselves — unless they can be weaponized toward present-day populist goals.
Gorsuch continues to point out truths that are uncomfortable for Christian Nationalists.

Vance recently claimed, "I’m not saying you have to be a Christian to be an American. I’m saying something simpler and truer: Christianity is America’s creed, the shared moral language from the Revolution to the Civil War and beyond."

Gorsuch, without mentioning the veep by name, took exception with the growing Christian nationalism Vance's remarks seem to bolster.

"And so America was not found -- I mean we have a First Amendment for crying out loud. No established religion, everybody has a freedom of religion

"We were founded, a lot of our colonies, for our religious pluralism, right? And the opportunity to practice your own faith in your own way," Gorsuch patiently explained.
 
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White House to host 9-hour prayer festival focused on Christian roots of U.S.

Pete Hegseth, Marco Rubio and Mike Johnson will speak at the event, which centers on the idea that the founders wanted the U.S. to be explicitly Christian.

The Trump administration is hosting an all-day prayer festival on the National Mall on Sunday that organizers say will reflect the country’s Christian origins and, they hope, spark “a movement of renewal” in America.

“Rededicate 250: National Jubilee of Prayer, Praise & Thanksgiving” is partly funded by millions in public dollars earmarked for the nation’s 250th birthday celebration, organizers said. It will feature mostly evangelical Protestant leaders and members of the Trump administration, many of whom have embraced the message that America’s founders wanted the country to be explicitly Christian.

While U.S. presidents through history have typically marked major commemorations with generic prayers of thanks to God, scholars of American religious history say the national jubilee is unprecedented in the modern era.

They say that’s because of its scope — nine hours and dozens of Christian speakers, including top U.S. officials ... — and its focus on American identity as aligned with a specific slice of conservative Protestantism.

About three-quarters of the 33 speakers listed on the Rededicate website as of Tuesday evening are evangelical Christians, compared with about a quarter of Americans overall. Organizers said the final list of speakers is still being determined.

[At another event, senior faith adviser to the White House Paula] White-Cain assured those in the audience that the jubilee would not include leaders “praying to all these different Gods.”

The all-day event — gates open at 9 a.m. and it will wrap at 6 p.m. —includes military bands, six Christian musical performers and speakers organized around three “pillars,” which the web site listed as “miracles” God imparted on America in the past, “personal testimonies of God’s healing” and a “unified moment of rededication.”

It also will feature one of the six 18-wheeler “Freedom Trucks” created by Freedom 250, which are traversing the country to teach about the founding of the nation. The material was created by two organizations that have led efforts to inject conservative content in K-12 classrooms: PragerU, a nonprofit that offers “a pro-American, Judeo-Christian message,” according to its tax forms; and Hillsdale College, a Christian school in Michigan.
The critical distinction often missed is that the United States and the New England colonies preceding its formation are not the same governments. Look at the colonial constitutions of Connecticut or Massachusetts. They explicitly identify the supreme authority over the Colonies as Jesus Christ. Now look at the U.S. Constitution. Who is recognized in it as the highest authority? It is the same as when Moses was on Mt. Sinai: We the people. It is the same as in the Garden of Eden, where Adam and Eve outvoted God 2 to 1. The Enlightenment taught that it was "We the people".

What were the leading members of the American aristocracy, who wanted a strong central govt so that they could replace the hegemony of the British empire - what were they reading? The English (and French) writers of the Enlightenment, a major project of the Devil, occurred shortly before the bloodless coup from the secret meeting in Philly and inspired the U.S. Founders. The leaders of the coup were Freemasons, though Tupper Saussy, who has written on this, shows evidence of Jesuit involvement. (P.S. Don't start in on Saussy's book unless you have plenty of reading time. He will pull you in. And don't miss the chapter titled "American Graffiti.") So Judge Gorsuch is right and the more stuperficial of the administration and House are wrong because they fail to distinguish between the Colonies, which were a prime example of Christian societies, to the United States, which the early Congress stated explicilty is not a Christian government. (Saussy covers this, but it is up to you to do your homework.)
 
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What were the leading members of the American aristocracy, who wanted a strong central govt so that they could replace the hegemony of the British empire - what were they reading? The English (and French) writers of the Enlightenment, a major project of the Devil, occurred shortly before the bloodless coup from the secret meeting in Philly and inspired the U.S. Founders. The leaders of the coup were Freemasons, though Tupper Saussy, who has written on this, shows evidence of Jesuit involvement. (P.S. Don't start in on Saussy's book unless you have plenty of reading time. He will pull you in. And don't miss the chapter titled "American Graffiti.") So Judge Gorsuch is right and the more stuperficial of the administration and House are wrong because they fail to distinguish between the Colonies, which were a prime example of Christian societies, to the United States, which the early Congress stated explicilty is not a Christian government. (Saussy covers this, but it is up to you to do your homework.)
Still pushing your conspiracies and slander about the Enlightenment, Freemasons, and Catholics, sigh. SMH.
 
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Still pushing your conspiracies and slander about the Enlightenment, Freemasons, and Catholics, sigh. SMH.
Blasting is not the same as rational argumentation. Go do some study; read Saussy's book; then we'll discuss it.
 
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Blasting is not the same as rational argumentation. Go do some study; read Saussy's book; then we'll discuss it.
I’ll put it on the list after Malleus Maleficarum and the protocols of the elders of Zion.
 
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Blasting is not the same as rational argumentation. Go do some study; read Saussy's book; then we'll discuss it.
So many books to read but this does look interesting . Could you give us a brief synopsis of his main point?
 
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Blasting is not the same as rational argumentation. Go do some study; read Saussy's book; then we'll discuss it.
LOL. I took a look at your book the last time you posted a link. I stand by my characterization of it as a conspiracy theory.
 
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So many books to read but this does look interesting . Could you give us a brief synopsis of his main point?
The link I gave goes to the book, and the Preface addresses your question. If I might vastly oversimplify what Rulers of Evil is about, it makes visible the various elephants in the room of the origin of the U.S. Like much history, only those who end up controlling thought-space in the information institutions of a society get to write its mythology, but a few earnest souls dig into its history. Saussy is an example. Reading it is like Neo taking the red pill in The Matrix movie ...
 
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