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Jewish New Yorkers say Mamdani ‘has blood on his hands’ after alleged hate-fueled stabbing

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The man was yelling Allahu Akbar as he stabbed people. Once again we see Islamist attacks upon people, following the Islamist attacks in Germany. Islamists are rhe most dangerous groups today. We see this time and time again.
 
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The man was yelling Allahu Akbar as he stabbed people. Once again we see Islamist attacks upon people, following the Islamist attacks in Germany. Islamists are rhe most dangerous groups today. We see this time and time again.
Unequivocally.
 
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The man was yelling Allahu Akbar as he stabbed people. Once again we see Islamist attacks upon people, following the Islamist attacks in Germany. Islamists are rhe most dangerous groups today. We see this time and time again.
Antisemitic attacks have been committed for decades and I doubt that an islamistic fanatic has been waiting for Mamdani's words to attempt his horrific murder.
And even IF that were the case; would that be a reason not to enforce the international arrest warrant issued by the ICC?
Shall we let the Hamas leaders that are accused of war crimes also off the hook - or are we going to use a double standard?
 
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I was able to access the article & do not have a Reuters subscription. Maybe they have limited free articles but I didn’t see it.

From Reuters:


These incidents are not isolated. They are completely unacceptable and reflect an ⁠increasingly dangerous pattern of intimidation, violence and obstruction, including smuggling attempts, targeting and abusing humanitarian operations," said U.N. Deputy Special Coordinator for the Middle East Peace Process Ramiz Alakbarov.
"They are placing humanitarian workers at risk, disrupting the delivery of life-saving assistance, and further constraining the ability of humanitarian organizations to operate at a time when civilians across Gaza continue to face immense and pressing humanitarian conditions," Alakbarov said.


Hamas on Monday denied the allegations. Its media office said the police forces involved were on a law enforcement operation after ‌receiving ⁠reports of smuggled cigarettes and mobile phone components concealed inside aid parcels.




Yes, I do and you can read that Hamas was checking out a matter of smuggled cigarettes.




I was able to access the link again, maybe access in different countries is affected I don’t know.
This very well can be a GDPR issue and how that handles data, ads, etc. Didn't check anyone's country, but EU Vs USA there can be a difference due to GDPR and other related legislature.
 
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I read the article you linked.
Mamdani said that Netanyahu should be arrested in agreement with the IPCC warrant.
Can you please explain me in detail what is antisemitic in that claim.
Mamdani has previously accused Israel of genocide.
 
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It is. I didn't say always, I said often.
We saw what Hamas did, (and I am sad to say that Hamas represents the sentiments of many Palestinians toward Jews) a sick and twisted act of depravity. Palestinians danced in the streets.
It's fascinating the "laser like" precision with which some folks believe they remember October 7 2023.

And the complete and utter misanthropy they support over there now.

Israel has shown great restraint in their response.
Sorry. You don't just get to say words as if they have no meaning. This belief is sociopathic.
 
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Reports of Hamas obstruction of aid are not new. From the Jerusalem Post a year ago.



I believe both sides have committed atrocities but Hamas are premeditated murderers and they use civilians ( Palestinians & Israelis) as human shields and collateral for their armed conflict. They started this and perpetuate it. If they hadn’t, Gaza would have been about the same today as it was before October 2023 ( such as it was).
Any thoughts on Israelis using Palestinians as human shields?
Israeli use of human shields in Gaza was systematic, soldiers and former detainees tell the AP

[to be clear, there are other sources and other reports of this happenning. This is NOT one off]
 
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Mamdani has previously accused Israel of genocide.
People who know and study genocide have done the same thing. He's not alone.


We don't get to say something is happenning just because you don't like being called on it.

Go ahead and support a genocide. But if the people who study genocides clearly indicate what you support is genocide....you support genocide.


PERIOD.

Get over yourself.
 
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I was able to access the link again, maybe access in different countries is affected I don’t know.
That's also my tentative conclusion.
 
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The man was yelling Allahu Akbar as he stabbed people.
Raul Morales - a name more associated with Catholicism than Islam - may very well have been mimicking Trump with that. And did he mistake the first man, an Asian, for a Jew somehow?

He also yelled, "Justice for the Romero family,” on his way to the squad car when asked about the incident. Is that also anti-Semitic or is he just a run of the mill nut?
Once again we see Islamist attacks upon people, following the Islamist attacks in Germany.
Oh baloney, there is little evidence that the man is an Islamist or even a Muslim.
Islamists are rhe most dangerous groups today. We see this time and time again.
Among the white supremacists, Christian nationalists and right-wing extremists - sure. And just as most people are not in one of those groups, most Muslims are not Islamists.
 
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People who know and study genocide have done the same thing. He's not alone.


We don't get to say something is happenning just because you don't like being called on it.

Go ahead and support a genocide. But if the people who study genocides clearly indicate what you support is genocide....you support genocide.


PERIOD.

Get over yourself.
Is destroying the entirety of a human groups infrastructure considered genocide? Is killing some people of a human group (not all) considered genocide, if the intention isn't total annihilation?
 
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The IDF's criminal investigation division has opened probes to investigate these allegations, and the practice remains formally prohibited.

Are you suggesting otherwise?
I am not suggesting those events are not happenning.

I am saying the IDF is using Palestinians as human shields.
 
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I am not suggesting those events are not happenning.

I am saying the IDF is using Palestinians as human shields.
You didn't include the fact that the IDF is working towards preventing such events... So it seems like your rhetoric is completely one-sided and unfair.
 
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Is destroying the entirety of a human groups infrastructure considered genocide? Is killing some people of a human group (not all) considered genocide, if the intention isn't total annihilation?
If you truly want to know the answer to that question, read a good book by reputable, unbiased (or two with different biases) academics.
 
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You didn't include the fact that the IDF is working towards preventing such events... So it seems like your rhetoric is completely one-sided and unfair.
That is something that got typed.

So the IDF is using Palestinians as human shields.
 
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Great.

So the IDF is using Palestinians as human shields.
Maybe some rogue members are. In the meantime, the IDF is attempting to prevent such acts.

No military is perfect. You think Hamas is perfect?

Maybe you should allow the same amount of 'mistakes' for the IDF and Hamas.? Or do you expect more from the one you oppose, and less from the one you side with?

Maybe try being fair.
 
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