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How many people here are hoping to go in the rapture but don't know if they will be selected? I am a relatively young Christian but not an infant. And I pray every day of these end days to go in the rapture. I tell the Holy Spirit that whatever learning I need to do I can do it on the other side...Praise God..
 
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How many people here are hoping to go in the rapture but don't know if they will be selected? I am a relatively young Christian but not an infant. And I pray every day of these end days to go in the rapture. I tell the Holy Spirit that whatever learning I need to do I can do it on the other side...Praise God..
Actually, all the learning is while you are in the flesh. There is a reason why God set it up this way. Time to buckle up and learn why!

Be blessed.
 
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You are born again, so God is not going to leave you behind. Just keep working on what you can do now. It might be decades or more away, but I suspect it is in the next few years or less.

I too thought about what about those people who don't have full lives or a chance to show what they can do for God. God could reward them according to his foreknowledge of what they would have done if time had continued on for them. The reality though is that it does not matter because God is just. Salvation is a gift and you are going to do great as you hold onto the faith.
 
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Odds are we will all die before a rapture ever happens, if indeed it is not just a pipedream of man. People have been expecting salvation for 2000 years.. The Father knows what He is doing and His battle is with adversity to His will, not about our fears of dying. A new seed can't be born unless the plant first dies. Where the cycle ends, no one knows, nor should care as we are to learn to follow His will here amongst adversity before even expecting to be worthy of the Kingdom. He's had enough with rebellion to His Will. Repent or be labelled a tare. That should be your first concern.
 
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We are supposed to occupy until he comes (Luke 19:13). Telling God you'll learn on the other side isn't occupying. It doesn't matter if you're pre-trib, Mid-trip or post-trib, you are supposed to focus on your walk with God and let God figure out the rest.
 
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How many people here are hoping to go in the rapture but don't know if they will be selected? I am a relatively young Christian but not an infant. And I pray every day of these end days to go in the rapture. I tell the Holy Spirit that whatever learning I need to do I can do it on the other side...Praise God..

With all kindness and respect. The belief that Christians are going to be taken up into heaven in an event called "the rapture" is a doctrine that did not exist until modern times.

In the early 1800's an Irish Anglican priest named John Nelson Darby become disillusioned with the Anglican Church. Darby would go on to help found a new religious movement, the Plymouth Brethren. Darby would eventually come up with some unique ideas through his personal and private reading of the Bible.

In Darby's original formulation of "the rapture" there would be a catching up of certain elect Christians (not all Christians, but only the most holy and deserving ones) who would escape end times bad stuff.

This was happening in a time when both in the United States and in the British Isles it was becoming popular to speculate about "the end times". Premillennialism was becoming fashionable.

Examples: In the 1840's William Miller, a Baptist minister, predicted Jesus would return in 1843, when that failed to happen, Miller predicted Jesus would return in 1844. Again, it didn't happen. This became known as the "Great Disappointment", and William Miller's followers, called the Millerites, mostly would feel betrayed as many had sold their land and homes.

Out of the Great Disappointment came some of the early Adventist Groups, the most famous being the 7th Day Adventists. The SDAs, rather than believing in a Great Disappointment argued that rather than coming, Jesus instead moved into a new phase of "Investigative Judgment" signaling the end of days.

Out of Seventh Day Adventism emerged the Jehovah's Witnesses, who would go on to predict Jesus would return at various times. Until finally in 1918 claiming Jesus returned "invisibly" and that the end of the world would happen in the 1970's--which never happened.

The point being that Darby, the Plymouth Brethren, and "the Rapture" emerged in the context of end-times fever.

However Darby's ideas did not really kick off in Ireland and Britain. Rather, Darby's ideas would find fertile ground in the US, as some very notable individuals would be persuaded by Darby. Such as Dwight L. Moody, who would go on to preach Darby's rapture doctrine in the US, and established a Bible School which today still bears his name. A man by the name of Cyrus Scofield would put together a study or reference Bible, which helped spread the new doctrine of Dispensationalism, of which "the rapture" was a major feature. A number of seminaries and Christian colleges would be established in the 19th and 20th centuries which would also advocate for this view.

However, it remained a fairly niche view among American Protestants even into the mid-20th century. However in the 60's 70's and 80's it grew in popularity within Evangelical circles, especially through some major best-selling books such as Hal Lindsay's "Late Great Planet Earth".

By the mid-late 90's we reached peak rapture boom, with the runaway best selling fiction series by Tim LaHaye and Jerry Jenkins: The Left Behind series, which would be made into a movie, twice. Once with Kirk Cameron and the second time with Nicolas Cage.

This has resulted in a generation of Christians in the US thinking Dispensationalism, and "the rapture" is "just what Christians believe", not knowing its very recent history, and that almost no Christians, historically, ever believed this.

I would actually argue that "the rapture" isn't just bad theology, it's dangerous theology.
 
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How many people here are hoping to go in the rapture but don't know if they will be selected? I am a relatively young Christian but not an infant. And I pray every day of these end days to go in the rapture. I tell the Holy Spirit that whatever learning I need to do I can do it on the other side...Praise God..
Where in scripture do you find that a "rapture" will take place before Jesus Christ's second coming and the resurrection of all the dead?
 
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With all kindness and respect. The belief that Christians are going to be taken up into heaven in an event called "the rapture" is a doctrine that did not exist until modern times.
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I would actually argue that "the rapture" isn't just bad theology, it's dangerous theology.

Co-signing this from the Roman Catholic camp. Dispensationalism in general and the rapture in particular might be the arch-heresy of our times.

To OP: Do you think God put you here only to yearn for the other side? God made you to love and serve him here, then to be happy with Him in the next life!
 
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With all kindness and respect. The belief that Christians are going to be taken up into heaven in an event called "the rapture" is a doctrine that did not exist until modern times.

In the early 1800's an Irish Anglican priest named John Nelson Darby become disillusioned with the Anglican Church. Darby would go on to help found a new religious movement, the Plymouth Brethren. Darby would eventually come up with some unique ideas through his personal and private reading of the Bible.

In Darby's original formulation of "the rapture" there would be a catching up of certain elect Christians (not all Christians, but only the most holy and deserving ones) who would escape end times bad stuff.

This was happening in a time when both in the United States and in the British Isles it was becoming popular to speculate about "the end times". Premillennialism was becoming fashionable.

Examples: In the 1840's William Miller, a Baptist minister, predicted Jesus would return in 1843, when that failed to happen, Miller predicted Jesus would return in 1844. Again, it didn't happen. This became known as the "Great Disappointment", and William Miller's followers, called the Millerites, mostly would feel betrayed as many had sold their land and homes.

Out of the Great Disappointment came some of the early Adventist Groups, the most famous being the 7th Day Adventists. The SDAs, rather than believing in a Great Disappointment argued that rather than coming, Jesus instead moved into a new phase of "Investigative Judgment" signaling the end of days.

Out of Seventh Day Adventism emerged the Jehovah's Witnesses, who would go on to predict Jesus would return at various times. Until finally in 1918 claiming Jesus returned "invisibly" and that the end of the world would happen in the 1970's--which never happened.

The point being that Darby, the Plymouth Brethren, and "the Rapture" emerged in the context of end-times fever.

However Darby's ideas did not really kick off in Ireland and Britain. Rather, Darby's ideas would find fertile ground in the US, as some very notable individuals would be persuaded by Darby. Such as Dwight L. Moody, who would go on to preach Darby's rapture doctrine in the US, and established a Bible School which today still bears his name. A man by the name of Cyrus Scofield would put together a study or reference Bible, which helped spread the new doctrine of Dispensationalism, of which "the rapture" was a major feature. A number of seminaries and Christian colleges would be established in the 19th and 20th centuries which would also advocate for this view.

However, it remained a fairly niche view among American Protestants even into the mid-20th century. However in the 60's 70's and 80's it grew in popularity within Evangelical circles, especially through some major best-selling books such as Hal Lindsay's "Late Great Planet Earth".

By the mid-late 90's we reached peak rapture boom, with the runaway best selling fiction series by Tim LaHaye and Jerry Jenkins: The Left Behind series, which would be made into a movie, twice. Once with Kirk Cameron and the second time with Nicolas Cage.

This has resulted in a generation of Christians in the US thinking Dispensationalism, and "the rapture" is "just what Christians believe", not knowing its very recent history, and that almost no Christians, historically, ever believed this.

I would actually argue that "the rapture" isn't just bad theology, it's dangerous theology.
No, it’s in the Bible since, Paul.
 
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Co-signing this from the Roman Catholic camp. Dispensationalism in general and the rapture in particular might be the arch-heresy of our times.

To OP: Do you think God put you here only to yearn for the other side? God made you to love and serve him here, then to be happy with Him in the next life!
Yes but, we are not appointed to wrath, which is just around the corner. I pray for it often. Will people who don’t believe in it go? It’s the time of his coming.
 
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No, it’s in the Bible since, Paul.
Then how come not a single Christian believed in it until Darby? Nobody in the history of Christendom ever believed in a taking-up of the faithful separate from the general resurrection and the judgment of the living and the dead, which happens at the end of Time. That's what 1 Thessalonians is describing, not some separate "rapture."
 
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Then how come not a single Christian believed in it until Darby? Nobody in the history of Christendom ever believed in a taking-up of the faithful separate from the general resurrection and the judgment of the living and the dead, which happens at the end of Time. That's what 1 Thessalonians is describing, not some separate "rapture."
All the first century Christian’s believed it. It was in the Bible, Paul wrote about it as given him by Jesus.
 
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All the first century Christian’s believed it. It was in the Bible, Paul wrote about it as given him by Jesus.
You’re talking about 1 Thessalonians 4, right? Can you explain to me why that is not referring to the Second Coming and the Last Judgment? Or, can you show me any extrabiblical sources showing that early Christians believed that this referred to an event separate from the Second Coming and the Last Judgment?
 
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The last judgment? The second coming is not until after the 1000 years and Armageddon. When Christ comes to defend Israel. This doesn’t mention any judgment. It goes to the clouds for the marriage supper of the lamb. You have to get your timing right. Ask someone who has sorted it out. Like beholdisrael.org
 
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The last judgment? The second coming is not until after the 1000 years and Armageddon. When Christ comes to defend Israel. This doesn’t mention any judgment. It goes to the clouds for the marriage supper of the lamb. You have to get your timing right. Ask someone who has sorted it out. Like beholdisrael.org

We are currently living in the "thousand years" era.
Biblical numbers, especially prophetic numbers, are not always literal. Psalm 50:10

This "thousand years" symbolizes the time that will pass between Jesus' bodily resurrection from the dead (called the first resurrection) and our bodily resurrection from the dead at the end of time. There can only be one "first resurrection," and it occurred in the first century AD. Matthew 27:50-53, Hebrews 9:28

At the first resurrection, the righteous spirits who were in Hades were released, and they are in heaven now, reigning with Jesus Christ. Luke 16:23-25, Revelation 20:4, Luke 22:69, Hebrews 2:6-9

These righteous spirits do not need to fear the "second death" because they are already in heaven, reigning with Jesus. 1 Corinthians 15:24-26
At the end of time, these spirits will be reunited with their "new" bodies, and they will accompany Jesus to earth, meeting with those righteous people who will be rising to meet them "in the air." 1 Thessalonians 4:17

Then all will follow Jesus to the Valley of Jehoshaphat for the final judgment of the spiritually "living" and the spiritually "dead." Joel 3:12-13, 2 Timothy 4:1
 
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Mine is different. We differ on the first resurrection. You did include one rapture scripture. But it will be soon before eze 38 and before the tribulation. God people are not appointed to wrath.‘. And you seem to have forgotten the great tribulation and the antichrist. Gods people cannot be here and the HS because such great evil as the antichrist cannot appear with the He is restraining here on earth still. If he is already born as some say it cannot be long, but the rapture will be soon. A couple years before the decide to wipeout Israel for spoils and will receive a heavy payback for trying and failing.

but the war will stop because the antichrist will bring peace for six months.
 
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