Religiosity as an advantageous trait

Warden_of_the_Storm · Tuesday at 9:49 AM

2PhiloVoid said:
Part of your problem is that you neither listen much to anyone, nor do you seem to want to get outside of your own epistemic bubble to learn more. That's a tragedy where being on a Christian Forum and engaging on the pros and cons of Christianity is concerned.

You can't say that with any certainty because you only know me from your limited interactions with me on this website.

Warden_of_the_Storm · Tuesday at 9:50 AM

2PhiloVoid said:
That's fine. You're free to exercise your freedom of thought. But whether or not your thought is cogent and true is another matter altogether.

Right back at'cha, ol' buddy ol' pal!

2PhiloVoid · Tuesday at 9:52 AM

Bradskii said:
I can almost guarantee that I'm less assertive about what I feel to be true that almost all the Christians in this forum. As I've already stated, I might be wrong. That's a very rare comment for any given Christian to make when it comes to God. But, yet again, my beliefs don't change what I said one iota. They stand.

Ah, bless you. You really tried to say that what I wrote was correct, but you just couldn't manage it. Rather than 'what he said' you just had to write 'all he spouted'. And you couldn't manage 'it was true', you had to type 'simple truism'.

I think that says more about you than about what I actually posted.

Obviously, you and I have in mind different denotations of the definition of "truism." I'm leaning toward the denotation of 'cliche.'

But you think you're saying something significant.

AV1611VET · Tuesday at 9:56 AM

Neogaia777 said:
Whatever he tells his grandson is none of our business, since it's his grandson.

He made it somewhat our business when He posted it here.

If you think he posted something that is TMI, then just ignore it.

Neogaia777 said:
That’s also why I ignored it, etc.

Fair enough.

You want us to ignore it too?

No, thanks.

I'm not setting the Great Commission aside on this one, just to placate his potential deadly advice.

Neogaia777 said:
You tell your children/grandchildren what you want to, etc.

I'm supposed to.

Pr 22:6 ¶ Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

2Ti 3:14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

Neogaia777 said:
I also don't hear the same fuss when a believer is telling their kids what they want to as if it's certain, etc.

Nope.

It's not "fuss."

It's called "obedience."

And maybe, just maybe, they want to see their kids in Heaven with them.

Ya think?

Neogaia777 said:
I personally think it's wrong either way, etc. I prefer to discuss it in a way that still leaves it open either way, etc.

Yup -- let the world have 'em -- right?

Then you'll wonder what happened when they end up lying on the floor of a school library after having shot themselves.

Neogaia777 said:
They'll find their own path/come to their own conclusions later on, etc.

When a person is left to the lions, I pray the Lion of the Tribe of Judah gets the final consideration.

Neogaia777 said:
God Bless.

Let's hope so.

AV1611VET · Tuesday at 9:58 AM

Warden_of_the_Storm said:
I guess all I can say on this is that we'll find out when we meet our ends.

That Bradskii was right? or Bradskii was wrong?

AV1611VET · Tuesday at 9:59 AM

Warden_of_the_Storm said:
The man's an atheist! Of course he's not going to believe in an afterlife!

And he doesn't want his grandson to either, does he?

Warden_of_the_Storm · Tuesday at 9:59 AM

AV1611VET said:
That Bradskii was right? or Bradskii was wrong?

I guess all I can say on this is that we'll find out when we meet our ends.

Warden_of_the_Storm · Tuesday at 9:59 AM

AV1611VET said:
And he doesn't want his grandson to either, does he?

That's none of your business.

Bradskii · Tuesday at 10:00 AM

2PhiloVoid said:
This is my underlying point. You're statements are glittering generalities that anyone can say but are loaded with non-specific, generic insinuations that obscure their underlying ontological assumptions.

Good grief, dude. I'm getting tired of this. I made a few points in passing in regard to how I believe a life should be lived and all you got is that 'I'm spouting truisms' that are 'loaded with non-specific, generic insinuations that obscure their underlying ontological assumptions'.

Good grief. Can you hear yourself? You couldn't sound more pretentious if you tried.

Warden_of_the_Storm · Tuesday at 10:02 AM

Bradskii said:
Good grief, dude. I'm getting tired of this. I made a few points in passing in regard to how I believe a life should be lived and all you got is that 'I'm spouting truisms' that are 'loaded with non-specific, generic insinuations that obscure their underlying ontological assumptions'.

Good grief. Can you hear yourself? You couldn't sound more pretentious if you tried.

He's a philosopher. It's his job!!

Bradskii · Tuesday at 10:04 AM

CIA Agent #1029 said:
Do you believe in God?

If you want to start posting on this matter then it would be a really good idea to read the previous posts. Than you for your attention to this matter.

Bradskii · Tuesday at 10:09 AM

2PhiloVoid said:
I already have rebutted it. Don't play the denial card. At the very least, you might share with your grandson what Robert Sapolsky says in the video I posted. Unless, of course, you disagree with Sapolsky on that point?

You haven't rebutted any of it. In fact, you have described all the items as being truisms. Part of the definition of which is: 'a statement that is obviously true'. Hey, well done. You filled the hole in I see. And I do agree with Sapolsky.

AV1611VET · Tuesday at 10:11 AM

Bradskii said:
Well, if the kid asks where I get my ethics from I can give him a list of people.

Hopefully, "the kid" will.

Bradskii said:
And it will definitely include Jesus.

Ya.

Then when a Christian comes around and tells them this same (?) Jesus you told him about wants him to repent of his sin and get saved, he just might laugh that Christian to scorn.

Bradskii said:
Plato will be in there as well.

My pastor pointed out last Sunday that Plato was probably in the Temple, when Jesus was found there by His parents.

Lu 2:41 ¶ Now his parents went to Jerusalem every year at the feast of the passover.
42 And when he was twelve years old, they went up to Jerusalem after the custom of the feast.
43 And when they had fulfilled the days, as they returned, the child Jesus tarried behind in Jerusalem; and Joseph and his mother knew not of it.
44 But they, supposing him to have been in the company, went a day's journey; and they sought him among their kinsfolk and acquaintance.
45 And when they found him not, they turned back again to Jerusalem, seeking him.
46 And it came to pass, that after three days they found him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors [including Plato], both hearing them, and asking them questions.
47 And all that heard him were astonished at his understanding and answers.

Bradskii · Tuesday at 10:12 AM

Warden_of_the_Storm said:
He's a philosopher. It's his job!!

That's true. He has diplomas. That's what them philosophers are known for being, more often than not. And of course, us common folks don't like it.

AV1611VET · Tuesday at 10:14 AM

Warden_of_the_Storm said:
So shut up and stop pestering the man like you're an inquisitor.

He's doing it for the sake of his grandson.

You know ... throwing out the Lifeline.

And I'm sure he is concerned about his grandson's grandfather as well.

Warden_of_the_Storm · Tuesday at 10:15 AM

AV1611VET said:
My pastor pointed out last Sunday that Plato was probably in the Temple, when Jesus was found there by His parents.

Considering that Plato was born roughly in 428 - 427 BC and died in 348 - 347 BC, I'd call your pastor MASSIVELY mistaken, to be polite.

Warden_of_the_Storm · Tuesday at 10:15 AM

AV1611VET said:
He's doing it for the sake of his grandson.

You know ... throwing out the Lifeline.

And I'm sure he is concerned about his grandson's grandfather as well.

No, I do not believe that in the slightest. There's not a hint that Philo is doing it for anyone's benefit but his own.

AV1611VET · Tuesday at 10:17 AM

Warden_of_the_Storm said:
I did truly forget that for these people, it really is "The Bible way or no way".

You forget easily, don't you?

Warden_of_the_Storm said:
Even the church founders, who had to wrestle with harder things, saw the value in seeing outside of the box of black and white thinking.

That "black and white" is going to judge them in the end.

"And the books were opened."

All 66 of them.

CIA Agent #1029 · Tuesday at 10:18 AM

Bradskii said:
If you want to start posting on this matter then it would be a really good idea to read the previous posts. Than you for your attention to this.

Sorry, I didn't know you were an atheist. It doesn't display denominations on my old iOS, and profiles load terribly, etc. Didn't know until others mentioned it.

It's not worth it for me to join this argument. So have a good time.

AV1611VET · Tuesday at 10:19 AM

Warden_of_the_Storm said:
We'll see in the end.

No argument there.

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