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Trusting Our Ways Over God's Ways
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The Bible interprets the Bible, where people go wrong is trying to re-interpret it. Why it says do not lean on ones own understanding Pro3:5-6 let God through His word Psa 119:105 be the light to our path
Its not the burnt offerings becomes prayers, its showing what the literal always represented in God's heavenly Temple. Literal sacrifices ended at the Cross Dan9:27 Heb 10:1-10 because they could never take away sins why Jesus had to become our Sacrificial Lamb but that doesn't mean all sacrifices ended Rom12:1 Heb13:15-16 1 Peter2:5 The Bible tells us what everything means, we just have to allow the Bible to interpret the Bible.
Its not the burnt offerings becomes prayers, its showing what the literal always represented in God's heavenly Temple. Literal sacrifices ended at the Cross Dan9:27 Heb 10:1-10 because they could never take away sins why Jesus had to become our Sacrificial Lamb but that doesn't mean all sacrifices ended Rom12:1 Heb13:15-16 1 Peter2:5 The Bible tells us what everything means, we just have to allow the Bible to interpret the Bible.
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The eunuchs that Isaiah was prophesying to would not have been able to enter the Assembly of the Lord.
Deuteronomy 23 - He who is emasculated by crushing or cutting shall not enter the assembly of the Lord.
Today that's not a problem.
1 Corinthians 12 - For as the body is one and has many members, and all the members of the body, being many, are one body; so also is Christ. 13 For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether bond or free; and were all given to drink into one Spirit.
Everyone is welcome in the body of Christ, regardless of body condition. Another change!
Deuteronomy 23 - He who is emasculated by crushing or cutting shall not enter the assembly of the Lord.
Today that's not a problem.
1 Corinthians 12 - For as the body is one and has many members, and all the members of the body, being many, are one body; so also is Christ. 13 For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether bond or free; and were all given to drink into one Spirit.
Everyone is welcome in the body of Christ, regardless of body condition. Another change!
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Thats right, why Isaiah was a Prophet who spoke of things to come ... the invitation was not just native Israel, it was open to everyone who responds to God's call under the same terms Isa 56:6 For there is no partiality with God. Rom2:11 so learning lessons of why God's chosen people fell, so we do not do the same thing is important. Heb4:11
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Yes, and the things to come indicate a change, don't they!
Burnt offerings become prayers
Eunuchs were excluded, now they are included
Hosea 1 - And in the place where it is said to them, “You are not My people,” It will be said to them, “You are the sons and daughters of the living God.”
Praise Jesus forever!
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God has a plan and purpose for everything. God's chosen people were to be the light to the world, so it wasn't as if God's will changed, people stopped doing God's will so based on what people do, God has to change directions, that doesn't mean His will changes, why its the everlasting gospel Rev14:6-12 fear God Exo20:20 Ecc12:13-14 , give Him Glory, worship the God who has the power to make Exo20:11 Rev14:7 come out of the false teachings taught by all the nations Rev14:8 and keep God's commandments Rev14:12 God's version Exo20:6 Exo31:18 Deut 4:13 Ecc3:14. This is the theme throughout the Bible and man constantly wants to revert back to their fear of God being taught by the commandments of man Isa 29:13 Mat15:3-14 instead of fear God and keeping His commandments Ecc12:13-14 because what God does is forever Ecc3:14 Exo32:16 Exo31:18
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The NC is not like the other, it is established on better promises Heb8:6 but God does not change, His righteousness Psa 119:172 Isa 56:1-2 is everlasting Psa 119:142 the foundation of His throne Psa 89:14 why the location of God's laws changed 2Cor3:3 Jer 31:33 Heb8:10 not the words, as God's promised Psa 89:34 Ecc3:14
If someone wishes to discuss covenants, I think there are lots of threads like that already, if we can please stick with the OP here, its a beautify theme throughout Scripture.
Thanks!
If someone wishes to discuss covenants, I think there are lots of threads like that already, if we can please stick with the OP here, its a beautify theme throughout Scripture.
Thanks!
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The OP talks about holding fast to God's covenant. Amen!The NC is not like the other, it is established on better promises Heb8:6 but God does not change, His righteousness Psa 119:172 Isa 56:1-2 is everlasting Psa 119:142 the foundation of His throne Psa 89:14 why the location of God's laws changed 2Cor3:3 Jer 31:33 Heb8:10 not the words, as God's promised Psa 89:34 Ecc3:14
If someone wishes to discuss covenants, I think there are lots of threads like that already, if we can please stick with the OP here.
Thanks!
More than desire, God says "I will put..."
"For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel
after those days,” says the Lord:
“I will put my laws into their mind;
I will also write them on their heart.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
11 They will not teach every man his fellow citizen
and every man his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’
for all will know me,
from their least to their greatest."
"They will not teach... saying, 'Know the Lord'"
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When you said "...holdfast My covenant", I assumed you meant the New Covenant. Did you mean the Covenant that God made with Israel when he brought them out of Egypt?The NC is not like the other, it is established on better promises Heb8:6 but God does not change, His righteousness Psa 119:172 Isa 56:1-2 is everlasting Psa 119:142 the foundation of His throne Psa 89:14 why the location of God's laws changed 2Cor3:3 Jer 31:33 Heb8:10 not the words, as God's promised Psa 89:34 Ecc3:14
If someone wishes to discuss covenants, I think there are lots of threads like that already, if we can please stick with the OP here, its a beautify theme throughout Scripture.
Thanks!
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Actually, I didn’t say it, God did Isa 56:1 and it’s an everlasting covenant for the people of God, there is never a time when God does not want His people to not do righteousness, not join themselves to the LORD or serve Him. At any rate, this is not the main purpose of this thread, to discuss the details of the covenant, the OP is about the pattern of specific Scriptures , as I asked previously, if we can please stick with the topic of the OP. If you wish to discuss the details of God’s covenant my suggestion would be to start a new post, so that topic can be discussed. Please and thanks.
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Sure, if you want to see a theme involving the Old Covenant in Isaiah and Jeremiah
I don't think there's that same theme in the other prophets. Ezekiel, maybe. After that, the word Sabbath occurs only once in Hosea and once in Amos.
If you're wanting to draw an application to us today, a prophet talking about those same four elements, connecting them to the New Covenant would be useful.
'In that he says, “A new covenant”, he has made the first obsolete'
I don't think there's that same theme in the other prophets. Ezekiel, maybe. After that, the word Sabbath occurs only once in Hosea and once in Amos.
If you're wanting to draw an application to us today, a prophet talking about those same four elements, connecting them to the New Covenant would be useful.
'In that he says, “A new covenant”, he has made the first obsolete'
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Back to the OP....
We see the same pattern in the NT as well.
The reason why we see it is found in the words of Jesus our God Himself
When mankind lives as Jesus instructs us to, we begin to see the harmony of all Scripture. The God of the OT is the God of the NT, God does not change Mal 3:6 Heb13:8
What God establishes is not temporary or meaningless:
He declared His covenant written by His own finger. He did not leave it up to man to write His commandments Exo20:6- God did this Himself.
What God does is forever, and our fear should be of Him, another theme working throughout the entire Bible connecting to God's commandments. Nothing can be added or taken away from what God Himself does, its forever.....
Why God said hold fast to My covenant Isa 56:6, the words I will not change- man may to try change them Dan7:25, against God's spoken Word, but not God.
If we believe these words from God Himself and not place anyone else above Him, we can see plainly how all of the Bible harmonizes perfectly.
So back to the same pattern of the OP now in the NT
First- Come to the waters
He offers it to a Samaritan woman before He offers it to a crowd John 4:10, 14. Isaiah 56 opened the door to the foreigner; John 4 we see fulfillment
And the reason-our thinking cannot be trusted:
Jesus gives the same diagnosis, and He gives it while confronting men who feared God through men's traditions over trusting God
What provoked this laying aside the commandments of God quoting from the Ten Commandments for traditions of man. In both OT and NT
Third Keep the Sabbath
In the OT
Isaiah 58 gives the plainest definition in Scripture of what that keeping is:
Three times -not your ways, not your pleasure, not your words. That is "forsake your own way" written into God's calendar. Honor Him, and the day becomes delight instead of burden. Easy yoke. Light burden. Mat11:28-29
God made the Sabbath for man, He is LORDING the Sabbath day, the day we are to put aside our ways and focus on our Creator Exo31:18 the only God worthy of our worship Rev14:7
The Sabbath is about full healing in God, both mentally and physically Eze20:20 Exo31:17
That is what the Sabbath day was made for, and it is what He alone can do in us — on the very day we cease from our own works on the Sabbath and focus on the LORD to be a blessing Isaiah 56:2 and a delight Isa 58:13
And as in the OT God compared keeping the Sabbath as doing righteousness and blessing in the same breath He said not keeping it is doing evil and that still stands in the NT
Lastly hold fast My covenant that God will not alter His words Psa89:34 because what He does is forever Ecc3:14
It was never bloodline:
And the covenant God wrote with His own finger on stone He now writes with on the heart and mind
That is Jeremiah 31:33 quoted word for word - and the direct reversal of Jer 17:1 where sin was engraved on the tablet of the heart with a pen of iron. Sin was so deep it was engraved into tablets of the heart. God overwrites this if one allows Rom8:7-8. The same law of God on a better tablet, on the heart right where sin begins. Because God wants us to fear Him, give Him glory, worship Him, our Creator and keep His commandments, the whole duty of man on both OT and NT Ecc3:14-15 Rev14:6-12
We see the same pattern in the NT as well.
The reason why we see it is found in the words of Jesus our God Himself
When mankind lives as Jesus instructs us to, we begin to see the harmony of all Scripture. The God of the OT is the God of the NT, God does not change Mal 3:6 Heb13:8
What God establishes is not temporary or meaningless:
He declared His covenant written by His own finger. He did not leave it up to man to write His commandments Exo20:6- God did this Himself.
What God does is forever, and our fear should be of Him, another theme working throughout the entire Bible connecting to God's commandments. Nothing can be added or taken away from what God Himself does, its forever.....
Why God said hold fast to My covenant Isa 56:6, the words I will not change- man may to try change them Dan7:25, against God's spoken Word, but not God.
If we believe these words from God Himself and not place anyone else above Him, we can see plainly how all of the Bible harmonizes perfectly.
So back to the same pattern of the OP now in the NT
First- Come to the waters
The same invitation given in the OT to everyone remains in the NT
He offers it to a Samaritan woman before He offers it to a crowd John 4:10, 14. Isaiah 56 opened the door to the foreigner; John 4 we see fulfillment
Second- Forsake your own waysAnd the reason-our thinking cannot be trusted:
Jesus gives the same diagnosis, and He gives it while confronting men who feared God through men's traditions over trusting God
What provoked this laying aside the commandments of God quoting from the Ten Commandments for traditions of man. In both OT and NT
Third Keep the Sabbath
In the OT
Isaiah 58 gives the plainest definition in Scripture of what that keeping is:
Three times -not your ways, not your pleasure, not your words. That is "forsake your own way" written into God's calendar. Honor Him, and the day becomes delight instead of burden. Easy yoke. Light burden. Mat11:28-29
God made the Sabbath for man, He is LORDING the Sabbath day, the day we are to put aside our ways and focus on our Creator Exo31:18 the only God worthy of our worship Rev14:7
The Sabbath is about full healing in God, both mentally and physically Eze20:20 Exo31:17
That is what the Sabbath day was made for, and it is what He alone can do in us — on the very day we cease from our own works on the Sabbath and focus on the LORD to be a blessing Isaiah 56:2 and a delight Isa 58:13
And as in the OT God compared keeping the Sabbath as doing righteousness and blessing in the same breath He said not keeping it is doing evil and that still stands in the NT
Lastly hold fast My covenant that God will not alter His words Psa89:34 because what He does is forever Ecc3:14
It was never bloodline:
And the covenant God wrote with His own finger on stone He now writes with on the heart and mind
That is Jeremiah 31:33 quoted word for word - and the direct reversal of Jer 17:1 where sin was engraved on the tablet of the heart with a pen of iron. Sin was so deep it was engraved into tablets of the heart. God overwrites this if one allows Rom8:7-8. The same law of God on a better tablet, on the heart right where sin begins. Because God wants us to fear Him, give Him glory, worship Him, our Creator and keep His commandments, the whole duty of man on both OT and NT Ecc3:14-15 Rev14:6-12
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This may appear to be a small detail, but I believe it's critical -
It's the laws God puts in our minds and writes on our hearts.
I'm glad you mentioned Romans 8:7-8 again. If someone does not have God's laws put into their mind and written on their heart, are they in the flesh? They cannot be in Christ? They are not following the theme that you have laid out?
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