Iran Negotiations

Akita Suggagaki · Tuesday at 5:48 PM

And he is the consummate liar.
Can’t believe a word he says.

But we don’t deserve better because we elected him.

wing2000 · Tuesday at 10:18 PM

One day after proposing a fee for ships transiting the Strait of Hormuz, President Trump on Tuesday said the United States would instead guarantee safe passage to vessels from Persian Gulf states that agree to invest in the United States.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/14/business/trump-strait-of-hormuz.html

Riiiiiiight. The Persian Gulf states probably did float that idea...while laughing as Trump announced it.

wing2000 · Tuesday at 10:35 PM

Day 138 of Trump's war.

His sticks (and carrots) have failed to move the Iranian government.

And he has no clue what to do next.

Landon Caeli · Tuesday at 10:45 PM

wing2000 said:
Day 138 of Trump's war.

His sticks (and carrots) have failed to move the Iranian government.

And he has no clue what to do next.

Or maybe he doesn't care? Why should I, or anyone else care to change the way things currently are with Iran? To save "money"..??? No troops are being killed.

...So who cares. We could literally stay like this for good. Under our thumb they can remain forever, while our lives carry on as normal.

Bradskii · Tuesday at 11:24 PM

Landon Caeli said:
Or maybe he doesn't care? Why should I, or anyone else care to change the way things currently are with Iran? To save "money"..??? No troops are being killed.

...So who cares. We could literally stay like this for good. Under our thumb they can remain forever, while our lives carry on as normal.

You have as much idea of how to get out of this unholy mess as Trump does. And you really 'don't care' if prices due to oil shortages continue to rise? You don't care that Trump will lose the midterms? From here: President Trump Hit With Humiliating Poll as Iran Crisis Spirals

'Moody's Analytics estimates the war has cost U.S. households a combined $100 billion—around $750 per household. That is bad news for Trump and his party ahead of November's midterms, when the cost of living will be at the front of voters' minds.'

And from here: Americans Just Turned Against Trump's Iran War: Poll After Poll Finds Voters Don't Believe It Was Worth the Cost as His Approval Sinks

'A CBS News/YouGov poll conducted between June 17 and June 19 among 2,519 adults also found that 69% of Americans do not believe that the war was worth its costs.'

Landon Caeli · Tuesday at 11:33 PM

Bradskii said:
You have as much idea of how to get out of this unholy mess as Trump does. And you really 'don't care' if prices due to oil shortages continue to rise? You don't care that Trump will lose the midterms

You admire the Islamist regime of Iran, and you only want the war to stop to protect Iran, so they can continue on the way they were.

RDKirk · Tuesday at 11:41 PM

Bradskii said:
You have as much idea of how to get out of this unholy mess as Trump does. And you really 'don't care' if prices due to oil shortages continue to rise? You don't care that Trump will lose the midterms? From here: President Trump Hit With Humiliating Poll as Iran Crisis Spirals

'Moody's Analytics estimates the war has cost U.S. households a combined $100 billion—around $750 per household. That is bad news for Trump and his party ahead of November's midterms, when the cost of living will be at the front of voters' minds.'

And from here: Americans Just Turned Against Trump's Iran War: Poll After Poll Finds Voters Don't Believe It Was Worth the Cost as His Approval Sinks

'A CBS News/YouGov poll conducted between June 17 and June 19 among 2,519 adults also found that 69% of Americans do not believe that the war was worth its costs.'

I told you that MAGA only cares that Trump fights the culture war. He can fail everything else and not lose their support. He can take away their Social Security and Medicare (Johnson says they intend to do just that) and MAGA will still support Trump.

Bradskii · Tuesday at 11:47 PM

Landon Caeli said:
You admire the Islamist regime of Iran, and you only want the war to stop to protect Iran, so they can continue on the way they were.

That's an idiotic statement. Who told you that? Have a chat with him and ask him how on earth he managed to reach such a moronic conclusion.

Landon Caeli · Tuesday at 11:47 PM

RDKirk said:
I told you that MAGA only cares that Trump fights the culture war. He can fail everything else and not lose their support. He can take away their Social Security and Medicare (Johnson says they intend to do just that) and MAGA will still support Trump.

Liberals only care about foreign aid, and are super-mad that we're disrespecting one of their favorite Islamist countries (Iran), instead of showering them with gifts.

Landon Caeli · Tuesday at 11:48 PM

Bradskii said:
That's an idiotic statement. Who told you that? Have a chat with him and ask him how on earth he managed to reach such a moronic conclusion.

Remember you, you, you..? If it's good for you, it's good for me, right?

Landon Caeli · Tuesday at 11:58 PM

Bradskii said:
That's an idiotic statement. Who told you that? Have a chat with him and ask him how on earth he managed to reach such a moronic conclusion.

After hearing your idiotic, moronic statements, I just figured a idiotic and moronic conclusion was in order. LOL.

Bradskii · Tuesday at 11:59 PM

RDKirk said:
I told you that MAGA only cares that Trump fights the culture war. He can fail everything else and not lose their support. He can take away their Social Security and Medicare (Johnson says they intend to do just that) and MAGA will still support Trump.

And in this case, accuse people who think the war is monstrously idiotic of therefore actually supporting a despicable regime. It's like I'm back in third grade.

Landon Caeli · Wednesday at 12:00 AM

Hey, this is fun!

...I can do what you can do! And it's free!

Stopped_lurking · Wednesday at 12:09 AM

Landon Caeli said:
Remember you, you, you..? If it's good for you, it's good for me, right?

The two contexts and sentence structures doesn't seem to be the same.

The first use of you was (mostly, except for the first sentence) questions in order to clarify your position. Your response were statements about the positions someone holds.

And asking if you care after you have posted this seems quite natural.

Landon Caeli said:
...So who cares. We could literally stay like this for good. Under our thumb they can remain forever, while our lives carry on as normal.

Landon Caeli · Wednesday at 12:15 AM

Stopped_lurking said:
The two contexts and sentence structures doesn't seem to be the same.

The first use of you was (mostly, except for the first sentence) questions in order to clarify your position. Your response were statements about the positions someone holds.

And asking if you care after you have posted this seems quite natural.

Yeah, yeah, "mostly", yeah......

Are you like a self professed grammarian or something?

Stopped_lurking · Wednesday at 12:18 AM

Landon Caeli said:
Yeah, yeah, mostly, yeah...... Are you like a self professed grammarian or something?

No, I don't think I complained about your grammar. I just pointed out that your tit for tat, didn't make sense to me, since the contexts were dissimilar.

Landon Caeli · Wednesday at 12:24 AM

Stopped_lurking said:
No, I don't think I complained about your grammar. I just pointed out that your tit for tat, didn't make sense to me, since the contexts were dissimilar.

But you said "mostly"... You should have stopped right there, deleted the draft, and moved on to something else.

Stopped_lurking · Wednesday at 12:51 AM

Landon Caeli said:
But you said "mostly"... You should have stopped right there, deleted the draft, and moved on to something else.

Why? Except for the first sentence (and even that one didn't ascribed any position to you) all the rest were questions. The questions were justified. You didn't ask any question, you just ascribed positions.

Thank you for your advice, but I'll move on to something else when I feel we are finished. Of course, you are free to move on if you feel like it.

essentialsaltes · Wednesday at 12:53 AM

Landon Caeli said:
Or maybe he doesn't care? Why should I, or anyone else care to change the way things currently are with Iran?

You were the biggest booster for regime change. What happened? Now you don't care.

Landon Caeli · Wednesday at 12:59 AM

Stopped_lurking said:
Why? Except for the first sentence (and even that one didn't ascribed any position to you) all the rest were questions. The questions were justified. You didn't ask any question, you just ascribed positions.

Thank you for your advice, but I'll move on to something else when I feel we are finished.

No, you'll move on after I say we're finished.

...The second you have to add qualifiers like "mostly", and "except for" means you're making excuses. Nobody is interested in your excuse-filled posts anymore.

We're finished now. You can go.

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