WATER BAPTISM ISN'T FOR US

Dan Perez · Friday at 1:51 PM

A New Dawn said:
I was wanting you to show me where Paul said not to keep the great commission.

And I am. sure that you understand what the word CONTEXT means !!

AND. THE CONTEXT of Mattb 28 is verse 16 , the 11 DISCIPLES. and NOT THE BODY. OF CHRIST !!

dan p

A New Dawn · Friday at 2:21 PM

Dan Perez said:
And I am. sure that you understand what vv vthebb word CONTEXT means !!

AND. THE CONTEXT of Mattb 28 is verse 16 , the 11 DISCIPLES. and NOT THE BODY. OF CHRIST !!

dan p

The disciples were instructed by Christ IN THE GREAT COMMISSION to baptize in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, and to teach all THEIR followers and disciples to observe all things whatsoever He has commanded them (including what was commanded in the great commission) MEANING the great commission is for everyone who is a follower/disciple.

Dan Perez · Friday at 3:13 PM

And read this !!

# 1. HE THAT // HO is a DEFINITE ARTICLE in. terms NOMINATIVE CASE in the SINGULAR

#2. BELIEVETH. // PISTEUO. in. th AORIST TENSE is a PARTICIPLE. CASE in the NOMINATIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR

#3. AND //. KAI. is a CONJUNCTION

#4. IS BAPTIZED //. BAPTIZO. in. the AORIST TENSE in. the PASSIVE VOICE in the NOMINATIVE CASE in c the SINGULAR

#5 SHALL BE SAVED //. SOZO. in. the FUTURE TENSE in the PASSIVE VOICE in. the INDICATIVE MOOD in the SINGULAR

#6. BUT. // DE. is a CONJUNCTION

#7 HE THAT BEKIEVETH. NOT //. APLSTAO. in the AORIST. TENSE. in. the ACTIVE VOICE in. the NOMINATIVE CASE

inch. SINGULAR

# 8. SHALL BE DAMNED. //. KATAKRINO. in c the FUTURE TENSE in. the PASSIVE VOICE in the INDICATIVE MOOD

in th SINGULAR !!

#A AND notice that the word WATER. // HYDOR IS NOT IN. THE GREEK TEXT !!

# 5 And is saved !!

#8 IS DAMNNED

# WHY. ??? and will explain. what I believe the answer. IS !!

THAT. is why BAPTISM with WATER and BAPTISMA is hard to. understand !!

BEST TO YOU !! Read Acts 1:5. ??

dan p

Dan Perez · Friday at 3:33 PM

A New Dawn said:
I was wanting you to show me where Paul said not to keep the great commission.

And where I. Matt 28 do see the words THE GREAT. COMMISSION ??

dan p

A New Dawn · Friday at 4:28 PM

Dan Perez said:
And where I. Matt 28 do see the words THE GREAT. COMMISSION ??

dan p

Where is the word Trinity?

Dan Perez · Friday at 4:51 PM

And just where does

A New Dawn said:
The disciples were instructed by Christ IN THE GREAT COMMISSION to baptize in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, and to teach all THEIR followers and disciples to observe all things whatsoever He has commanded them (including what was commanded in the great commission) MEANING the great commission is for everyone who is a follower/disciple.

And just where do you. see. the words THE GREAT. COMMISIOM in Matthew. 28 ??

dan p

Dan Perez · Friday at 5:18 PM

A New Dawn said:
The disciples were instructed by Christ IN THE GREAT COMMISSION to baptize in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, and to teach all THEIR followers and disciples to observe all things whatsoever He has commanded them (including what was commanded in the great commission) MEANING the great commission is for everyone who is a follower/disciple.

And you keep. on. saying THE GREAT COMMISSION. and have yet to. see. it in. Matt 28 ??

dan p

Dan Perez · Friday at 5:46 PM

A New Dawn said:
Where is the word Trinity?

And you changed the subject. !!

Read 1 JOHN 4:7. !!

For there are THREE who bear witness in. heaven ,the FATHER. the WORD , and HOLY SPIRIT. and it means ONE and TWO and THREE

and these make a TRINITY.

dan p

Dan Perez · Friday at 6:22 PM

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A New Dawn said:
The disciples were instructed by Christ IN THE GREAT COMMISSION to baptize in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, and to teach all THEIR followers and disciples to observe all things whatsoever He has commanded them (including what was commanded in the great commission) MEANING the great commission is for everyone who is a follower/disciple.

AND were they BAPTZED by WATER // HYDOR or BAPTIZED by HOLY SPIIT ??

dan p

A New Dawn · Friday at 11:16 PM

Dan Perez said:
And you changed the subject. !!

Read 1 JOHN 4:7. !!

For there are THREE who bear witness in. heaven ,the FATHER. the WORD , and HOLY SPIRIT. and it means ONE and TWO and THREE

and these make a TRINITY.

dan p

I countered with an equally ridiculous question. Yes, the IMPLICATION of the Trinity is all through the s Bible, but the word is not. Same with the great commission. Christ’s final commandment to us, NO MATTER WHAT YOU CALL IT.

This denying something is a thing just because it has been given a name that isn’t in the Bible is getting tedious.

Dan Perez · Saturday at 12:32 PM

chilehed said:
So then you're nobody special and your very odd personal interpretation of scripture is just that: your own very odd personal interpretation that is guite different from.what scripture actually says.

Got it.

And many love WATER // BAPTISM ??

And in 1 Cor 10:2 says and ALL were BAPTIZRD TOGETHER unto MOSES. in. the CLOUD. and in. the SEA .

Help with your. own odd personal interpretation ??

dan p

Dan Perez · Saturday at 12:41 PM

A New Dawn said:
I countered with an equally ridiculous question. Yes, the IMPLICATION of the Trinity is all through the s Bible, but the word is not. Same with the great commission. Christ’s final commandment to us, NO MATTER WHAT YOU CALL IT.

This denying something is a thing just because it has been given a name that isn’t in the Bible is getting tedious.

AND I NEVER ADD or SUBTRACT. or ADD to. the. Greek TEXT and I normally. always use the English and Greek. words

and all can. check to see that. I am above report and do NEVER PLAY GAMES. as I consider. God.s word SACRED

dan p

A New Dawn · Saturday at 1:07 PM

Dan Perez said:
AND I NEVER ADD or SUBTRACT. or ADD to. the. Greek TEXT and I normally. always the English an d Greek. words

and all can. check to see that. I am above report and do NEVER PLAY GAMES. as I consider. God.s word SACRED

Yet you are playing that game with us in every post you write. If you don’t want us to play the game back, then YOU need to stop playing it.

You accept and use the word TRINITY, which is not in the Bible, as a word that depicts a Biblical truth. And then you turn and literally harass us for using the phrase “the Great Commission”, which is also not in the Bible and depicts a Biblical truth. This is the game you play. Do not get upset with us when we point it out.

Dan Perez · Saturday at 1:32 PM

A New Dawn said:
The disciples were instructed by Christ IN THE GREAT COMMISSION to baptize in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, and to teach all THEIR followers and disciples to observe all things whatsoever He has commanded them (including what was commanded in the great commission) MEANING the great commission is for everyone who is a follower/disciple.

And anyone that reads. Matt 28:19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations (. NO. WATER. HERE ) baptizing !!

dan p

Lukaris · Saturday at 1:45 PM

Better go back in time and tell early Christians they were wrong to observe the rite of water baptism. An early church manual, the Didache, observed water baptism in the Trinitarian names during the 1st century onwards.

CHAPTER 7

7:1 But concerning baptism, thus baptize ye: having first recited all these precepts, baptize in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, in running water;

7:2 but if thou hast not running water, baptize in some other water, and if thou canst not baptize in cold, in warm water;

7:3 but if thou hast neither, pour water three times on the head, in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.

7:4 But before the baptism, let him who baptizeth and him who is baptized fast previously, and any others who may be able. And thou shalt command him who is baptized to fast one or two days before.

Didache. The Teaching of the Twelve Apostles (translation Charles H. Hoole).

Didache. The Teaching of the Twelve Apostles (translation J. B. Lightfoot). On Early Christian Writings.

www.earlychristianwritings.com

The Ecole Glossary

A New Dawn · Saturday at 4:02 PM

Dan Perez said:
And anyone that reads. Matt 28:19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations (. NO. WATER. HERE ) baptizing !!

dan p

There is a difference between baptizing with water and the baptism of the Holy Spirit. What is mentioned in Matthew 28 is water baptism because that is the only kind of baptism WE can do. Only God can baptize with the Holy Spirit.

Baptism with water is what we are commanded to do in response to God’s baptism with the Holy Spirit. It is how we are commanded to follow Christ and to identify with Him.

Dan Perez · Saturday at 7:49 PM

Lukaris said:
Better go back in time and tell early Christians they were wrong to observe the rite of water baptism. An early church manual, the Didache, observed water baptism in the Trinitarian names during the 1st century onwards.

CHAPTER 7
7:1 But concerning baptism, thus baptize ye: having first recited all these precepts, baptize in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, in running water;

7:2 but if thou hast not running water, baptize in some other water, and if thou canst not baptize in cold, in warm water;

7:3 but if thou hast neither, pour water three times on the head, in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.

7:4 But before the baptism, let him who baptizeth and him who is baptized fast previously, and any others who may be able. And thou shalt command him who is baptized to fast one or two days before.

Didache. The Teaching of the Twelve Apostles (translation Charles H. Hoole).

Didache. The Teaching of the Twelve Apostles (translation J. B. Lightfoot). On Early Christian Writings.

www.earlychristianwritings.com

The Ecole Glossary

And Gal 1& n. it says from. the APOSTLE FOR. THE GENTILES. !!

But even if an. ANGEL FROM OUT OF HEAVEN. should be preaching the GOSPEL. to you CONYTRARY. to. what we PREACHED to you

LET HIM BE ACCURSED. !!

# 1 Pauls gospel NOT the LAW II

#2. OR to be BORN AGAIN. !!

#3 OR to be BAPTIZED

# 4 OR TO BE BORN OF WATER John 3:3

#5 OR to. be BORN OF WATER and the SPIRT. , John 3 :5

# 6 OR OF 1 JOHN 5::18 WHOSOEVER is born of God SINNETH NOT. !!

# A BECAUSE ARE SAVED BY grace , Rom. 10:9 and 10 !!

Google ACCURSED an. see what ACCURSED MEANS !!
dan p

Lukaris · Saturday at 8:12 PM

Dan Perez said:
And Gal 1& n. it says from. the APOSTLE FOR. THE GENTILES. !!

But even if an. ANGEL FROM OUT OF HEAVEN. should be preaching the GOSPEL. to you CONYTRARY. to. what we PREACHED to you

LET HIM BE ACCURSED. !!

# 1 Pauls gospel NOT the LAW II

#2. OR to be BORN AGAIN. !!

#3 OR to be BAPTIZED

# 4 OR TO BE BORN OF WATER John 3:3

#5 OR to. be BORN OF WATER and the SPIRT. , John 3 :5

# 6 OR OF 1 JOHN 5::18 WHOSOEVER is born of God SINNETH NOT. !!

# A BECAUSE ARE SAVED BY grace , Rom. 10:9 and 10 !!

Google ACCURSED an. see what ACCURSED MEANS !!
dan p

Maybe look in the mirror then?

Dan Perez · Saturday at 9:21 PM

A New Dawn said:
There is a difference between baptizing with water and the baptism of the Holy Spirit. What is mentioned in Matthew 28 is water baptism because that is the only kind of baptism WE can do. Only God can baptize with the Holy Spirit.

Baptism with water is what we are commanded to do in response to God’s baptism with the Holy Spirit. It is how we are commanded to follow Christ and to identify with Him.

AND DO YOU HAVE VERSE ??

dan p

Dan Perez · Saturday at 9:26 PM

Lukaris said:
Maybe look in the mirror then?

And YOU. have a verse ??

dan p

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