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Washington Parade Called Off--But Some Still Marched
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The problem is that the left supported the degenerate thugs who called themselves Antifa. The very same degenerate thugs who murdered at least 48 people and caused billions of dollars in damage in cities across America. They not only supported them, they actually embraced them and said whatever is necessary to rid the country of the people who disagreed with them.
So I am not impressed by your armchair psychology. Unless you come forward and denounce those degenerate thugs, you have no room to suggest anything about anyone else is worse based on the mere fact that you hold a different political ideology from them. Hatred and killing is, after all, hatred and killing. I would think you’d denounce it on all sides.
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So no one can denounce fascism unless they first denounce anti-fascism? No criticizing people marching on DC today unless people who rioted six years ago are denounced first? Super what-aboutism!
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I don't think you quite got PF's meaning....
In Europe. They imagine a "white hegemony" in Europe prior to the "discovery" of America. In their view pre-Columbian America was a "savage continent" "[un]touched by civilization"
Quite the opposite. They only want those dedicated to their white nationalist, position. No squishes. They hide nothing.
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Please go into great detail about the Left’s “support” of ANTIFA and its members.
When fellow citizens become “the problem”, it’s always going to end badly.
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I'll note that you slid from 'they not only supported them' to suggesting 'you'd denounce it'.
You had to move from third person plural to third person singular because otherwise you'd have to claim that I supported 'degenerate thugs'. Which you know as a fact I don't. You've seen enough of my posts. But you wanted to make it personal because you thought it carried more weight, because you pigeonhole me on 'the left' and in your world 'Left bad!'
It's a perfectly constructed microcosm of the thought process of a lot of people in this forum. I've literally been told in the last week or so that if Trump says something then it must be right. What he says is irrelevant. And the other side of that same coin when a senator said last week that he'd vote against the housing bill because 'if the Democrats support it, it must be bad'.
So in your world, if someone criticises a far right white nationalist group of thugs then it's too tough gig for you to claim that that person supports far left thugs but you feel that you can immediately imply it using nonsensical rhetorical musings by saying 'I have to wonder if these were the same sentiments used by the left to describe Antifa...'
It's so typical a knee jerk reaction that it's become a cliche around these parts.
And to make sure that you're not in any doubt, then here's a heads up: I strongly reject any violence to people or property for whatever reason. The politics of those committing violence is utterly irrelevant so I don't care if they nominate as left or right.
Now you've got a chance to comment on the current matter yourself. You've left it quite late, but hey, better late than never.
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After I wrote that their masks are white, I said, "They aren't, then." And you ask >
Also . . . being washed whiter than snow is what is superior!
Their masks are white. But the people wearing those masks are not white like their masks; and so they aren't white, "then".
Also . . . being washed whiter than snow is what is superior!
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Show me where I said I support them. I don’t think I even came close to that in the two whole posts I have in this thread.
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Ah, it's the "then" that threw me off because it is written as if they not being white is a consequence of their masks being white.
Guessing from Pommer's "cryptic", you are not referencing their race by the "white" but the state of their souls? If so, I don't get what the color of their masks would make - except in terms of irony?
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I read the first line. It was the last line I responded to. I would assume that unless someone says they support them it would be understood that they don’t. Yet you are accusing me of supporting them when I said no such thing.
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