Chronological Summary of The End Times

tranquil · Jun 30, 2026

WilliamLhk said:
As I have have said to you before, there is no biblical prophecy about any 7-year period in the End Times other than the one in Ezekiel 39, and that takes place after all other events have been concluded.

Gog attacks twice: 1st is Ezek 38:1-23, then the 2nd attack is Ezek 39:1-29.

Ezek 39:9 “Then those who dwell in the cities of Israel will go out and make fires of the weapons and burn them, shields and bucklers, bow and arrows, clubs and spears; and they will make fires of them for seven years, 10 so that they will not need to take wood out of the field or cut down any out of the forests, for they will make their fires of the weapons. They will seize the spoil of those who despoiled them, and plunder those who plundered them, declares the Lord God.

When Gog is destroyed, then they are seizing the spoils from the locusts/ armies that had previously plundered them (during the tribulation).

At the conclusion of the 2nd attack, the 'glory of the Lord' arrives:

Ezek 39:21 “And I will set my glory among the nations, and all the nations shall see my judgment that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid on them.

God's glory is the theophany (Yeshua/ Jesus) which is established here:

Ezek 43:2 And behold, the glory of the God of Israel was coming from the east. And the sound of his coming was like the sound of many waters, and the earth shone with his glory. 3 And the vision I saw was just like the vision that I had seen when he came to destroy the city, and just like the vision that I had seen by the Chebar canal. And I fell on my face. 4As the glory of the Lord entered the temple by the gate facing east, 5the Spirit lifted me up and brought me into the inner court; and behold, the glory of the Lord filled the temple.

The following are the other visions. [The first one here in Ezek 9 could be argued to be Daniel 9:26’s people of the prince to come destroy the city and sanctuary. The ‘prince’ is the ‘man in linen’ who is the same as the ‘man in linen’ angel in Dan 10 and Dan 12 who ‘swears by heaven’ (which confirms the Dan 9:27 covenant.) (This is the same angel ‘man in linen’ as the Rev 10 ‘mighty angel’ who swears by heaven.)

Ezek 9:1 Then he cried in my ears with a loud voice, saying, “Bring near the executioners of the city, each with his destroying weapon in his hand.” 2 And behold, six men came from the direction of the upper gate, which faces north, each with his weapon for slaughter in his hand, and with them was a man clothed in linen, with a writing case at his waist. And they went in and stood beside the bronze altar.

3 Now the glory of the God of Israel had gone up from the cherub on which it rested to the threshold of the house. And he called to the man clothed in linen, who had the writing case at his waist. 4 And the Lord said to him, “Pass through the city, through Jerusalem, and put a mark on the foreheads of the men who sigh and groan over all the abominations that are committed in it.” 5 And to the others he said in my hearing, “Pass through the city after him, and strike. Your eye shall not spare, and you shall show no pity. 6 Kill old men outright, young men and maidens, little children and women, but touch no one on whom is the mark. And begin at my sanctuary.” So they began with the elders who were before the house. 7 Then he said to them, “Defile the house, and fill the courts with the slain. Go out.” So they went out and struck in the city. 8 And while they were striking, and I was left alone, I fell upon my face, and cried, “Ah, Lord God! Will you destroy all the remnant of Israel in the outpouring of your wrath on Jerusalem?”

9 Then he said to me, “The guilt of the house of Israel and Judah is exceedingly great. The land is full of blood, and the city full of injustice. For they say, ‘The Lord has forsaken the land, and the Lord does not see.’ 10 As for me, my eye will not spare, nor will I have pity; I will bring their deeds upon their heads.”

11 And behold, the man clothed in linen, with the writing case at his waist, brought back word, saying, “I have done as you commanded me.”

And this

Ezek 1:1 In the thirtieth year, in the fourth month, on the fifth day of the month, as I was among the exiles by the Chebar canal, the heavens were opened, and I saw visions of God.

4 As I looked, behold, a stormy wind came out of the north, and a great cloud, with brightness around it, and fire flashing forth continually, and in the midst of the fire, as it were gleaming metal. 5 And from the midst of it came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance: they had a human likeness, 6 but each had four faces, and each of them had four wings.

26 And above the expanse over their heads there was the likeness of a throne, in appearance like sapphire; and seated above the likeness of a throne was a likeness with a human appearance. 27 And upward from what had the appearance of his waist I saw as it were gleaming metal, like the appearance of fire enclosed all around. And downward from what had the appearance of his waist I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and there was brightness around him. 28 Like the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud on the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness all around.

Such was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the Lord. And when I saw it, I fell on my face, and I heard the voice of one speaking.

The Chebar river is a tributary of the Euphrates river. In other words, this connects to Revelation 9:13-21’s Euphrates river events with the four angels. After the killing of a third of mankind, the ‘glory of the Lord’ comes to inhabit the temple that will come to be. The Revelation 10 'Mighty Angel' is a clear reference to this 'glory of the Lord' who also has a 'bow around his head' in Rev 10:1.

to sum up:
Start of the Trumpets, starts the day of wrath because Gog is attacking (Ezek 38:14).
the locusts are the people of the prince to come who destroy the city and sanctuary.
Start of the 6th trumpet: These locusts 'cut off the daily' (Joel 1:4-9)
God's forces start destroying the unfaithful who are worshipping the abomination in Ezekiel 9's (2nd vision of the glory of the Lord)
Gog's forces are stopped (the events of Rev 9:13-21)
When Gog appears to have been destroyed, the 'glory of the Lord' appears to arrive to confirm the Dan 9:27 covenant of peace (same as Ezek 37:26) and inhabit the temple. This is the arrival of the Rev 10 Mighty Angel.

From the Jewish point of view, this should be the end of the matter. But it isn't (from the Christian POV).

If you think that there is one Gog attack between the events of Ezekiel 38 and 39, then the Revelation 5th Trumpet’s 5 months of locusts combines with the 7 months of clean up (Ezek 39:12) to form 12 months, 1 year, aka one ‘day of the Lord’. The 'glory of the Lord' arrives to confirm the covenant and inhabit the temple and that's that.

But since there are 2 attacks, the ‘7 years’ of Ezekiel 39:9 are actually initiated by the ‘glory of the Lord’ (which is Yahweh’s theophany which is Yeshua/ ‘Jesus’).

[Essentially, Gog is the Assyrian, but is not what people consider to be the 'antichrist'.]

tranquil · Jun 30, 2026

WilliamLhk said:
...the inclusion of the simple preposition “to” indicates that the first act begins the 1290 days, and the second act concludes the 1290 days: “from the time of the [removal] even to the abomination of desolation: 1290 days.”

A Historical Precedent

There is a historical precedent, under similar circumstances, for such a prophesied lapse of time. Antiochus Epiphanes (r. 176 - ca. 164 B.C.) was the historical King of the North who brought Temple services to an end, and later caused to “place the abomination of desolation” in 168 B.C. Dan. 11:31 In his case, lawful Temple services were brought to an end years before the final desecration in 168:

2 Macc. 4:23 After a period of three years [of the high priesthood of Jason, who had usurped the high priesthood of the Jewish Temple from his brother, Onias III, by bribing Antiochus]…Menelaus… 24 …secured the high priesthood for himself… 25 [Being a Benjamite,] he… possess[ed] no [lawful] qualifications for the high priesthood… 29 Menelaus left his own brother Lysimachus as deputy in the high priesthood… 32 But Menelaus, thinking he had obtained a suitable opportunity, stole some of the gold vessels of the temple and gave them to [Antiochusʼs deputy] Andronicus… 34 [Then] Menelaus, taking Andronicus aside, urged him to kill [the legitimate Jewish high priest] Onias. Andronicus came to Onias, and resorting to treachery…urged Onias to come out from [his] place of sanctuary; then, with no regard for justice, he immediately put him out of the way. … 39 [Meanwhile,] many acts of sacrilege had been committed in [Jerusalem] by Lysimachus with the connivance of Menelaus…

2 Macc. 5:1 [Not long afterward,] Antiochus made his second invasion of Egypt. Dan. 11:29 At the appointed time he return[ed] and [went] toward the south; but it [was] not like the former time or like the latter. 30 For ships of Kittim [a Roman fleet commanded by Popilius Laenus] c[a]me against him; therefore he [was] grieved, and return[ed] and [was] enrage[d] against the holy covenant, and so acted…and show[ed] regard for those who forsook the holy covenant. 2 Macc. 5:11 … raging inwardly, [Antiochus] left Egypt and took [Jerusalem] by storm. 14 Within a total of three days, 80,000 Jews were destroyed…and as many sold into slavery… 15 Not content with this, Antiochus dared to enter the most holy Temple in the world, guided by Menelaus, who had become a traitor to the laws and to his country. 16 He took the holy vessels with his polluted hands… 1 Macc. 1:54 Now on the 15th day of Chislev in the 145th year [~Dec. 16, 168 B.C.], they erected a desolating sacrilege [likely an idol of Zeus] upon the altar of burnt offering.

This era was prophesied in Dan. 8:12-14, and its “pesha/transgression/lawlessness” was to continue “for 2300 days; then the sanctuary [would] be cleansed.” According to the history provided by the Books of the Maccabees, the ultimate overthrow of the Aaronic priesthood by Menelaus lasted from the latter 170s B.C. (no precise dates given, but enough information to make a rough estimate) up to the cleansing of the sanctuary by the Maccabees in 165 B.C. Now, 2300 days = about 6.3 years, a seeming fit for the length of that period, which reasonably could have begun in 171 B.C.

The 1290 Days

Keeping these things in mind, letʼs go now to the 1290 days of the End Times, which equal 3.53 solar years. We read in Dan. 11:41 that early on, the King of the North “shall enter the Glorious Land, and many shall be enfeebled/overthrown…” Following this, “he shall stretch out his hand against lands, and the land of Egypt shall not escape…also the Libyans and Cushites…” 11:42-43

An unspecified number of months or years later,

Dan. 11:44 …news from the north and the east shall trouble him; therefore he shall go out with great fury… 45 And he shall plant the tents of his pavilion…at the glorious holy mountain… 12:1 And in that time Michael shall stand up [cf. Rev. 12:7]…and there shall be a time of trouble such as never was…

– which is the same wording Jesus used in Matthew 24:21 to describe the Great Tribulation.

So to sum it all up: if the Latter Day King of the North “takes away” Daniel 12:11ʼs “daily services” when he first “enters the Glorious Holy Land,” through subverting its political and/or religious leaders – “many shall be enfeebled/overthrown” (Dan. 11:41) – then the 1290 days would begin at that point, and conclude with the Abomination of Desolation some 3½ years later. The subjection of “lands” – Egypt and Islamic North Africa – could easily take that long, prior to the final crisis. Just as Antiochus was successful in first subverting many of the priests and people, and subsequently succeeded in his original invasion of Egypt, a number of years before he committed his utter defilement and desolation of the Temple in 168 B.C.

This sequence seems to me to be the most likely fulfillment of Daniel 12:11. Whether or not it is how things will play out remains to be seen. So this is something to watch out for: the acts of the King of the North when he (or his men) first enter Jerusalem. Those acts should reveal whether or not this understanding of the 1290 days is valid.

https://www.worthychristianforums.com/blogs/entry/1440-the-1290-and-1335-days-of-daniel-1211-12/

Dan 11:31His forces will rise up and desecrate the temple fortress. They will abolish the daily sacrifice and set up the abomination of desolation. 32With flattery he will corrupt those who violate the covenant, but the people who know their God will firmly resist him. 33Those with insight will instruct many, though for a time they will fall by sword or flame, or be captured or plundered.

34Now when they fall, they will be granted a little help, but many will join them insincerely. 35Some of the wise will fall so that they may be refined, purified, and made spotless until the time of the end, for it will still come at the appointed time.

36Then the king will do as he pleases and will exalt and magnify himself above every god, and he will speak monstrous things against the God of gods. He will be successful until the time of wrath is completed, for what has been decreed must be accomplished. 37He will show no regard for the gods of his fathers, nor for the one desired by women, nor for any other god, because he will magnify himself above them all.

38And in their place, he will honor a god of fortresses—a god his fathers did not know—with gold, silver, precious stones, and riches. 39He will attack the strongest fortresses with the help of a foreign god and will greatly honor those who acknowledge him, making them rulers over many and distributing the land for a price.

this is the start of the 6th Trumpet. The locusts of Gog (armies of Assyria) are the forces that abolish the daily and set up the abomination after 5 months. Then God is seen in Ezekiel 9 where He is instructing the man in linen to mark the faithful who are not worshipping the abomination. The unfaithful are being destroyed - that is part of the killing of a third of mankind in Rev 9:13-21.

Then the 'man in linen' angel shows up (Dan 10 and then Dan 12:7). That 'time, times, and half time of the holy people' in Dan 12:7 is the same time as the 2 witnesses 1260 days that round out the time until the 7th Trumpet. The 2 witnesses 1260 days are initiated by the Rev 10 Mighty Angel swearing an oath to heaven. The 'man in linen' also swears an oath to heaven and announces the time, times, half time for the holy people. Same being/ angel. He functions as the 'glory of the Lord' that arrives after what seems to be the destruction of Gog in Rev 9:13-21.

Swearing an oath to heaven is how the covenant with God is performed.

Genesis 26:28

“We can plainly see that the LORD has been with you,” they replied. “We recommend that there should now be an oath between us and you. Let us make a covenant with you.

2 Kings 11:4

But in the seventh year Jehoiada sent and brought the captains of the Carites and of the guards, and had them come to him in the house of the LORD. And he made a covenant with them and put them under oath in the house of the LORD, and he showed them the king’s son.

Psalm 105:8

He remembers His covenant forever, the word He ordained for a thousand generations— 9 the covenant He made with Abraham, and the oath He swore to Isaac. 10 He confirmed it to Jacob as a decree, to Israel as an everlasting covenant: 11 “I will give you the land of Canaan as the portion of your inheritance.”

Psalm 132:11

The LORD swore an oath to David, a promise He will not revoke: “One of your descendants I will place on your throne. 12 If your sons keep My covenant and the testimony I will teach them, then their sons will also sit on your throne forever and ever.”

Hosea 10:4 They speak mere words; with false oaths they make covenants. So judgment springs up like poisonous weeds in the furrows of a field.

Luke 1:68 “Blessed be the Lord, the God of Israel, because He has visited and redeemed His people. 69 He has raised up a horn of salvation for us in the house of His servant David, 70 as He spoke through His holy prophets, those of ages past, 71 salvation from our enemies and from the hand of all who hate us, 72 to show mercy to our fathers and to remember His holy covenant, 73 the oath He swore to our father Abraham, to grant us 74 deliverance from hostile hands, that we may serve Him without fear, 75 in holiness and righteousness before Him all the days of our lives.

Douggg · Jun 30, 2026

WilliamLhk said:
...the inclusion of the simple preposition “to” indicates that the first act begins the 1290 days, and the second act concludes the 1290 days: “from the time of the [removal] even to the abomination of desolation: 1290 days.”

"tamid" means "regularly", i.e. the regular offering. The regular temple offering was a lamb offered twice daily.

At the Chabad.org site, a Jewish site, is an online Tanach (Jewish Bible). For Daniel 12:11....

11. And from the time the daily sacrifice was removed and the silent abomination placed, is one thousand, two hundred, and ninety.

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So, if I understand you correctly, then....

The problem with your interpretation/understanding is when the AoD is setup (45 days before Jesus returns day in your view).

Here's the problem. In Matthew 24:15-21, Jesus said the great tribulation begins when the AoD is set up.

During the great tribulation will be the trumpet and bowl judgements - that will take much more than 45 days to be fulfilled. For example, the fifth trumpet of Revelation 9:1-11, the flesh tormenting locust lasts for 5 months.

So, instead of your interpretation, the AoD is will be set up, 1335 days before Jesus returns. And the 1290 days is until the sign of the Son of Man appears in heaven (Matthew 24:30a). During the 45 days, the kings of the earth will gather their armies to prepare to make war on Jesus and His army of heaven. Your timeline makes no allowance for their actions.

This is what your timeline should look like....

Douggg · Jun 30, 2026

tranquil said:
Gog attacks twice: 1st is Ezek 38:1-23, then the 2nd attack is Ezek 39:1-29.

No, there is only one Gog/Magog event.

Ezekiel 38 lists the countries involved. Ezekiel 39 speaks about the destruction of Gog's (the leader's) army. And that 7 years will follow (Ezekiel 39:9). And at the end of the 7 years, another feast on the dead taking place, in Ezekiel 39:17-20 (corresponding to Revelation 19:17-18).

Jesus, Himself, is then speaking in the text of Ezekiel 39:21-29, having returned to this earth. In that text, Jesus recounts about the Jews having been exiled from the land of Israel for their rejection of Him as their king and messiah.

But having turned to Him (during the great tribulation) and their sins and transgressions forgiven.

keras · Jun 30, 2026

WilliamLhk said:
Now, 2300 days = about 6.3 years, a seeming fit for the length of that period, which reasonably could have begun in 171 B.C.

2 Maccabees does give the exact day for when Antiochus 4 E desecrated the 2nd Temple. Then the Day it was rededicated, - after 2300 days.
This truth blows apart any timeline using the 2300 days in an end time position.

Regarding the 1290 and the 1335 days of Daniel 12, we are plainly told that the Temple will be desecrated at the mid point of the final 7 years of this age. Daniel 9:27 This fits with the several instances where 1260 days and 42 months are mentioned in Revelation. For the second half of the 7 years..
Therefore: to place the extra days before that mid point, must be wrong and are proved wrong by how King Jesus, after His Return will preside over the Day of Atonement 30 days later and then 75 days after the Return and the Temple is cleansed; - the ultimate Hanukkah:
Happy are those who live to see the completion of the 1335 days! Daniel 12:12

Kind of obvious that this is the completion of Daniels Prophesies and any attempts to sandwich in those extra days before Jesus Returns, is error and confusion.

Douggg · Jun 30, 2026

keras said:
2 Maccabees does give the exact day for when Antiochus 4 E desecrated the 2nd Temple. Then the Day it was rededicated, - after 2300 days.
This truth blows apart any timeline using the 2300 days in an end time position.

The vision that Daniel had in Daniel 8:11-14 about the stopping of the daily sacrifice and the transgression of desolation by the little horn person, Gabriel said...

Daniel 8:17 So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision.

keras said:
Therefore: to place the extra days before that mid point, must be wrong and are proved wrong by how King Jesus, after His Return will preside over the Day of Atonement 30 days later and then 75 days after the Return and the Temple is cleansed; - the ultimate Hanukkah:

No, keras, what makes the temple desolate for the 1335 days is the statue image of the beast-king. That statue image is not going to be left standing on the temple mount for 75 days after Jesus returns.

That statue image is going to appear to come alive and speak, Revelation 13:15. What makes that happen is that Satan will indwell the statue image, and speak through it.

When Jesus returns, Jesus will cause the statue image to burst into flames, brought to ashes, exposing Satan there on the temple mount. Fulfilling Ezekiel 28:16-19.

keras, where do you think Satan will be when the angel descends from heaven, binds Satan in chains, and casts Satan into the bottomless pit, in Revelation 20:1-3 ?

keras · Jul 1, 2026

Douggg said:
The vision that Daniel had in Daniel 8:11-14 about the stopping of the daily sacrifice and the transgression of desolation by the little horn person, Gabriel said...

Daniel 8:17 So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision.

A correct and unbiased translation of Danel 8:17 says: ....Understand O man: The vision points to the time of the end. REBible
The vision's that Daniel had; spanned from his day to the final Judgment; Daniel 7:9-10

Isn't it sufficient for you that the 2300 days fits exactly with the Temple desecration of Antiochus 4E and nowhere in Revelation, or any other end time Prophecy?

Douggg said:
No, keras, what makes the temple desolate for the 1335 days is the statue image of the beast-king. That statue image is not going to be left standing on the temple mount for 75 days after Jesus returns.

What the Abomination of Desolation is: when the 'beast' sits in the new Temple and declares himself to be God. 2 Thess 2:4
Nowhere is it said that the statue of Rev 13:14b-15, will be in the Temple. More likely it will be in a public place, where many can gather around it.

Douggg said:
When Jesus returns, Jesus will cause the statue image to burst into flames, brought to ashes, exposing Satan there on the temple mount. Fulfilling Ezekiel 28:16-19.

Your imagination is in overdrive; there is no fire when Jesus Returns, only the place where the 'beast' and the 'false prophet' are consigned to.
The temple will be cleansed and the 75 days after Jesus Returns it will be rededicated to God.

Douggg · Jul 1, 2026

keras said:
What the Abomination of Desolation is: when the 'beast' sits in the new Temple and declares himself to be God. 2 Thess 2:4
Nowhere is it said that the statue of Rev 13:14b-15, will be in the Temple. More likely it will be in a public place, where many can gather around it.

Your imagination is in overdrive; there is no fire when Jesus Returns, only the place where the 'beast' and the 'false prophet' are consigned to.
The temple will be cleansed and the 75 days after Jesus Returns it will be rededicated to God.

The abomination of desolation will be set up - a statue image of the beast, in the standing position.

Matthew 24: 15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand: )

"stand" not sit. The sitting action by the Antichrist in 2Thessalonians2:4 will be the transgression of desolation, not the abomination of desolation.

keras, where do you think Satan will be when the angel descends from heaven, binds Satan in chains, and casts Satan into the bottomless pit, in Revelation 20:1-3 ?

keras · Jul 1, 2026

Douggg said:
The sitting action by the Antichrist in 2Thessalonians2:4 will be the transgression of desolation, not the abomination of desolation.

This separation of the event in 2 Thess 2:4 and in Rev 13:14b, is quite right, but it is your private interpretation to call the statue an AoD.
I constantly have to show the error of thinking the statue of the Anti-Christ is the AoD.
Daniel 9:27 says the AoD will happen at the mid point of the final 7 years. Just a simple going into the Temple and sitting down.
After that, it has to be some time to construct and set up a statue of the AC. There is no such thing as a transgression of desolation.

Douggg said:
keras, where do you think Satan will be when the angel descends from heaven, binds Satan in chains, and casts Satan into the bottomless pit, in Revelation 20:1-3 ?

Where it says he will be!

Lets recap a bit;
1/ I have proved that Daniel prophesied for all of time, not just the time of the end.
2/ The statue of the AC will be some time after the AC sits in the Temple and will not be in the Temple.
3/ The peoples who G/M attack will not be Jewish Israel.
4/ The cleansing of the Holy Land after the G/M destruction, will be completed, prob a year or more, before Jesus Returns.
5/ There will be no general Jewish redemption.
6/ There will be no rapture to heaven of the Church.
7/ Only the heavenly angel army will accompany Jesus at Hs Return.
8/ The next Prophesied event will be the Sixth Seal.
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Douggg · Jul 1, 2026

keras said:
Daniel 9:27 says the AoD will happen at the mid point of the final 7 years. Just a simple going into the Temple and sitting down

Daniel 9:27 says in the midst of the 7 years, not mid-point. midst = middle part of the 7 years. Day 1185 is in the middle part of the 7 years. Day 1185 is 1335 days before the day of Jesus's return.

keras said:
There is no such thing as a transgression of desolation.

It is in the text of Daniel 8:11-17.

keras said:
Where it says he will be!

And specifically, where is that, keras ?

keras, where do you think Satan will be when the angel descends from heaven, binds Satan in chains, and casts Satan into the bottomless pit, in Revelation 20:1-3 ?

tranquil · Jul 1, 2026

Douggg said:
No, there is only one Gog/Magog event.

Ezekiel 38 lists the countries involved. Ezekiel 39 speaks about the destruction of Gog's (the leader's) army. And that 7 years will follow (Ezekiel 39:9). And at the end of the 7 years, another feast on the dead taking place, in Ezekiel 39:17-20 (corresponding to Revelation 19:17-18).

Jesus, Himself, is then speaking in the text of Ezekiel 39:21-29, having returned to this earth. In that text, Jesus recounts about the Jews having been exiled from the land of Israel for their rejection of Him as their king and messiah.

But having turned to Him (during the great tribulation) and their sins and transgressions forgiven.

When Gog attacks there is a great earthquake

Ezek 38:19For in my jealousy and in my blazing wrath I declare, On that day there shall be a great earthquake in the land of Israel. 20The fish of the sea and the birds of the heavens and the beasts of the field and all creeping things that creep on the ground, and all the people who are on the face of the earth, shall quake at my presence. And the mountains shall be thrown down, and the cliffs shall fall, and every wall shall tumble to the ground.

Same earthquake as Rev 6:12 When he opened the sixth seal, I looked, and behold, there was a great earthquake, and the sun became black as sackcloth, the full moon became like blood,

This starts the wrath of God: Ezek 38: Now on that day when Gog comes against the land of Israel, declares the Lord GOD, My wrath will flare up.

Same wrath that is starting at the Trumpets in Rev 6:17 for the great day of their wrath has come, and who can stand?”

1st attack of Gog:

Ezek 38:2“Son of man, set your face toward Gog, of the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him 3and say, Thus says the Lord God: Behold, I am against you, O Gog, chief prince of Meshech and Tubal. 4And I will turn you about and put hooks into your jaws, and I will bring you out, and all your army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed in full armor, a great host, all of them with buckler and shield, wielding swords. 5Persia, Cush, and Put are with them, all of them with shield and helmet; 6Gomer and all his hordes; Beth-togarmah from the uttermost parts of the north with all his hordes—many peoples are with you.

Gog's army are the locusts of Rev 9's 5th Trumpet.

1st defeat of Gog:

Ezek 38:22 With pestilence and bloodshed I will enter into judgment with him, and I will rain upon him and his hordes and the many peoples who are with him torrential rains and hailstones, fire and sulfur.

Same hail as in the 1st Trumpet: Rev 8:7 The first angel blew his trumpet, and there followed hail and fire, mixed with blood, and these were thrown upon the earth.

Same fire and sulfur as in Rev 9:17 And this is how I saw the horses in my vision and those who rode them: they wore breastplates the color of fire and of sapphire and of sulfur, and the heads of the horses were like lions’ heads, and fire and smoke and sulfur came out of their mouths. 18By these three plagues a third of mankind was killed, by the fire and smoke and sulfur coming out of their mouths.

2nd Attack of Gog

Ezek 39:1“And you, son of man, prophesy against Gog and say, Thus says the Lord God: Behold, I am against you, O Gog, chief prince of Meshech and Tubal. 2And I will turn you about and drive you forward, and bring you up from the uttermost parts of the north, and lead you against the mountains of Israel.

2nd defeat of Gog

Ezek 39:17“As for you, son of man, thus says the Lord God: Speak to the birds of every sort and to all beasts of the field: ‘Assemble and come, gather from all around to the sacrificial feast that I am preparing for you, a great sacrificial feast on the mountains of Israel, and you shall eat flesh and drink blood. 18You shall eat the flesh of the mighty, and drink the blood of the princes of the earth—of rams, of lambs, and of he-goats, of bulls, all of them fat beasts of Bashan. 19And you shall eat fat till you are filled, and drink blood till you are drunk, at the sacrificial feast that I am preparing for you. 20And you shall be filled at my table with horses and charioteers, with mighty men and all kinds of warriors,’ declares the Lord God.

Jesus, Himself, is then speaking in the text of Ezekiel 39:21-29, having returned to this earth. In that text, Jesus recounts about the Jews having been exiled from the land of Israel for their rejection of Him as their king and messiah.

That is not Jesus talking. It is YHWH speaking about Jesus.

Ezek 39:20And you shall be filled at my table with horses and charioteers, with mighty men and all kinds of warriors,’ declares YHWH.

21“And I will set my glory among the nations, and all the nations shall see my judgment that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid on them.

YHWH will set his glory among the nations. YHWH's 'glory' IS Jesus. The 'glory' is the physical manifestation of YHWH.

Ezekiel explains what he means by 'the glory of YHWH' in Ezek 1:

26And above the expanse over their heads there was the likeness of a throne, in appearance like sapphire;g and seated above the likeness of a throne was a likeness with a human appearance. 27And upward from what had the appearance of his waist I saw as it were gleaming metal, like the appearance of fire enclosed all around. And downward from what had the appearance of his waist I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and there was brightness around him.h 28Like the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud on the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness all around.

Such was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the Lord. And when I saw it, I fell on my face, and I heard the voice of one speaking.

Douggg · Jul 1, 2026

tranquil said:
Gog's army are the locusts of Rev 9's 5th Trumpet.

No, Gog's army consists of armies from the nations listed in Ezekiel 38.

The locust creatures in Revelation 9, 5th trumpet, will be some sort of flesh tormenting insects, that sting. But they will not sting persons with the seal of God in their foreheads (Revelation 9:4).

WilliamLhk · Jul 1, 2026

keras said:
2 Maccabees does give the exact day for when Antiochus 4 E desecrated the 2nd Temple. Then the Day it was rededicated, - after 2300 days.
This truth blows apart any timeline using the 2300 days in an end time position.

Agreed.

keras said:
Regarding the 1290 and the 1335 days of Daniel 12, we are plainly told that the Temple will be desecrated at the mid point of the final 7 years of this age. Daniel 9:27

Daniel 9:27 says NOTHING about "the final 7 years of this age." It neither has, nor indicates at all, that this period takes place "at the time of the end," as other passages in Daniel do.

Akita Suggagaki · Jul 1, 2026

What I don't understand is how people can waste time and energy speculating in such detail about things that really have no relevance to following Christ today. And then arguing with others with different speculations.

keras · Jul 1, 2026

Douggg said:
Daniel 9:27 says in the midst of the 7 years, not mid-point. midst = middle part of the 7 years. Day 1185 is in the middle part of the 7 years. Day 1185 is 1335 days before the day of Jesus's return.

It is in the text of Daniel 8:11-17.

And specifically, where is that, keras ?

keras, where do you think Satan will be when the angel descends from heaven, binds Satan in chains, and casts Satan into the bottomless pit, in Revelation 20:1-3 ?

I think you have successfully showed your bias and errors. I do not want to be refuting Dougggish opinions any more.

keras · Jul 1, 2026

tranquil said:
When Gog attacks there is a great earthquake

Ezek 38:19For in my jealousy and in my blazing wrath I declare, On that day there shall be a great earthquake in the land of Israel. 20The fish of the sea and the birds of the heavens and the beasts of the field and all creeping things that creep on the ground, and all the people who are on the face of the earth, shall quake at my presence. And the mountains shall be thrown down, and the cliffs shall fall, and every wall shall tumble to the ground.
Same earthquake as Rev 6:12 When he opened the sixth seal, I looked, and behold, there was a great earthquake, and the sun became black as sackcloth, the full moon became like blood,

Not the same earthquakes at all.
The one on Gog and his army, is in the Land of Israel. The one at the Sixth Seal is worldwide and is better described as tectonic plate movement.
As Deuteronomy 32:22 .......fire will strike the foundations of the mountains.

Your ideas of conflating the Seals, Trumpets and Bowls, let alone the G/M attack with the Sixth Seal, is not tenable and just scrambles the Prophesies.

Garrett.theo · Jul 1, 2026

Douggg said:
The other 4 are not specific intesifications of the trumpets. btw, I went back and edited my post - trumpet 4 is intensified by bowl 5 (not bowl 4).

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I did not see it in your article. Just explain what you think the abomination of desolation will be.

You are the one who does not get it. Your chart needs a legend.

The abomination of desolation is the same as the man of lawlessness and the little horn, as shown below:

Abomination of Desolation	Man of Lawlessness	Little Horn in Daniel 7	Little Horn in Daniel 8
"He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him." - Daniel 9:27	"Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God." - 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4	“While I was thinking about the horns, there before me was another horn, a little one, which came up among them; and three of the first horns were uprooted before it. This horn had eyes like the eyes of a human being and a mouth that spoke boastfully... I also wanted to know about the... other horn that came up, before which three of them fell—the horn that looked more imposing than the others and that had eyes and a mouth that spoke boastfully. As I watched, this horn was waging war against the holy people and defeating them, until the Ancient of Days came and pronounced judgment in favor of the holy people of the Most High, and the time came when they possessed the kingdom. “He gave me this explanation: ...different from the earlier ones; he will subdue three kings. He will speak against the Most High and oppress his holy people and try to change the set times and the laws. The holy people will be delivered into his hands for a time, times and half a time. - Daniel 7:8, 20-22a, 23a, 24b-25	The goat became very great, but at the height of its power the large horn was broken off, and in its place four prominent horns grew up toward the four winds of heaven. Out of one of them came another horn, which started small but grew in power to the south and to the east and toward the Beautiful Land. It grew until it reached the host of the heavens, and it threw some of the starry host down to the earth and trampled on them. It set itself up to be as great as the commander of the army of the Lord; it took away the daily sacrifice from the Lord, and his sanctuary was thrown down. Because of rebellion, the Lord’s people and the daily sacrifice were given over to it. It prospered in everything it did, and truth was thrown to the ground. - Daniel 8:8-12

Please stop trying to impose on me your beliefs on how you think my chart look or what it should include. It was made like this for a specific purpose, just because you can't grasp that doesn't mean I need to change it to accommodate you.

keras · Jul 1, 2026

Akita Suggagaki said:
What I don't understand is how people can waste time and energy speculating in such detail about things that really have no relevance to following Christ today. And then arguing with others with different speculations.

I do not see studying the Bible Prophesies, as a waste of time.
At the Judgment, what will God say to those pastors and people who ignore the large amount of Prophetic scripture?

God has made it difficult to understand, in fact He has hidden the truths from those who are wise and learned. Matthew 11:25-26
We must clear our minds of any of mans teachings and plainly read the Words about what God has planned for our future. For example; nowhere is it said that we Christians will be taken up to heaven. We have the Lords work to do here on earth, escapism is not an option. Matthew 28:19-20

Therefore, we who are alive today may well experience the end times and be honoured to see Jesus Return in glory.
Getting there will be much easier for us; being prepared with the knowledge of what must happen before the glorious Day.

keras · Jul 1, 2026

WilliamLhk said:
Daniel 9:27 says NOTHING about "the final 7 years of this age." It neither has, nor indicates at all, that this period takes place "at the time of the end," as other passages in Daniel do.

Daniel 11:31, parallels 9:27, and is in the context of the end times.
The Seventh 'week' - of Daniel 9:24-27, remanins unfulfilled

Douggg · Jul 1, 2026

Garrett.theo said:
The abomination of desolation is the same as the man of lawlessness and the little horn, as shown below:

Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

(also "set up" in the translation you posted for Daniel 9:27)

The abomination of desolation will be set up. It is a thing, an object, will be set up, placed - not a person.

btw, what translation are you using ? And are you doing a copy and paste from that translation in the columns of your post ?

Garrett.theo said:
Please stop trying to impose on me your beliefs on how you think my chart look or what it should include. It was made like this for a specific purpose, just because you can't grasp that doesn't mean I need to change it to accommodate you.

Is the purpose being to help people understand the end-times ? If so, you chart should be correct and understandable by others who view it.

As your chart presently is - it is lacking in correctness and understand-ability.

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