How the Right promotes socialism

Maine Progressive · May 6, 2026

Fox News reports that 62% of GenZ Americans hold a favorable view of Socialism. So consider this. When there is an argument that people shouldn't have to take on astronomical debt to get medical treatment, the Right says 'That's Socialism'. When there is an argument that college students shouldn't be burdened with predatory loans, the Right says 'That's Socialism'. Can you think of a better way to promote socialism? The Right is the best marketing Socialism has ever had.

Shinto-Wise · May 6, 2026

I've always taught myself that if it's on Fox news then it bothers them. So, if it wasn't anything to worry about then they would not talk about it.

stevevw · Jun 24, 2026

I think the right are pointing out that the idea of free university and healthcare is a socialist and communist idea. Who pays for the free education and healthcare. It has to come from taxes. Who will get taxed the most like in NY. Its the capitalist. The wealthy business people. The owners of production.

I think its the other way around as far as advertisement for communism. It is the Dem states and cities that are turning communist and implementing these radical ideas that are detroying the cities and States. Top businesses leaving as they know it is anti business.

So even more money will be drained and taxes will rise. There will not be enough of other peoples money and things will deteriorate. There will be anarchy as people lose their hard earnt property and money while others demand more free stuff.

This will actually make people realise how crazy this is and turn them away from the Dems. Not sure if it will turn them to the Rep. But they will certainly see the mess that these ideas cause and will reject leaders who are pushing it.

Maine Progressive · Jun 25, 2026

stevevw said:
I think the right are pointing out that the idea of free university and healthcare is a socialist and communist idea. Who pays for the free education and healthcare. It has to come from taxes. Who will get taxed the most like in NY. Its the capitalist. The wealthy business people. The owners of production.

I think its the other way around as far as advertisement for communism. It is the Dem states and cities that are turning communist and implementing these radical ideas that are detroying the cities and States. Top businesses leaving as they know it is anti business.

So even more money will be drained and taxes will rise. There will not be enough of other peoples money and things will deteriorate. There will be anarchy as people lose their hard earnt property and money while others demand more free stuff.

This will actually make people realise how crazy this is and turn them away from the Dems. Not sure if it will turn them to the Rep. But they will certainly see the mess that these ideas cause and will reject leaders who are pushing it.

Interesting prediction. I have a sad confidence that it will go in the opposite direction. I hope I'm wrong. I hope healthy capitalism flourishes and 'opportunity for all' becomes a reality and not just a smoke screen for cruelty and greed. But that is highly unlikely. The unrestrained divide between increasing wealth for the very few and the increasing poverty for those abandoned and left adrift amidst the illusion of prosperity in America will lead to very hard times. I don't know if there will be a swing to Democrats. But I am fairly certain that we are not far from a very angry public. Atlas may shrug. But the people have a boiling point.

stevevw · Jun 25, 2026

Maine Progressive said:
Interesting prediction. I have a sad confidence that it will go in the opposite direction. I hope I'm wrong.

Actually come to think of it I reckon you may be right. Or at least theres a movement happening with some momentum for these kind of ideas. There has now been a number of socialist candidates winning primaries. Even knocking out long time mainstream dems.

Maine Progressive said:
I hope healthy capitalism flourishes and 'opportunity for all' becomes a reality and not just a smoke screen for cruelty and greed. But that is highly unlikely. The unrestrained divide between increasing wealth for the very few and the increasing poverty for those abandoned and left adrift amidst the illusion of prosperity in America will lead to very hard times. I don't know if there will be a swing to Democrats. But I am fairly certain that we are not far from a very angry public. Atlas may shrug. But the people have a boiling point.

The pendulum always swings back and forth. But it seems with more conflict each time. More division and polarisation.

But who would have thought that hard socialism and even communism would become popular in the west. Or Islam. What is going on ? Are we slipping into alternative universes or something ?

Maine Progressive · Jun 25, 2026

stevevw said:
Actually come to think of it I reckon you may be right. Or at least theres a movement happening with some momentum for these kind of ideas. There has now been a number of socialist candidates winning primaries. Even knocking out long time mainstream dems.

The pendulum always swings back and forth. But it seems with more conflict each time. More division and polarisation.

But who would have thought that hard socialism and even communism would become popular in the west. Or Islam. What is going on ? Are we slipping into alternative universes or something ?

“What is going on?” I think it's a broader issue than how you perceive it. Socialism and communism are not becoming popular. Neither Islam. We are not slipping into an alternative universe. We are slipping like fish into a net of fear and loathing. Not paranoia in the mental health sense. But paranoia in the ideological sense. The world is changing. And our fear of it. And our dislike of it. Leads us to blindly abandon common sense and run away with others in a trembling delusion. Fear and loathing is a powerful force. Humans all around us take on fearful proportions. That which is just different. Now looks dangerous, insidious, threatening. Our hypersensationalized perceptions replace reality.

Yarddog · Jun 25, 2026

Maine Progressive said:
Fox News reports that 62% of GenZ Americans hold a favorable view of Socialism. So consider this. When there is an argument that people shouldn't have to take on astronomical debt to get medical treatment, the Right says 'That's Socialism'. When there is an argument that college students shouldn't be burdened with predatory loans, the Right says 'That's Socialism'. Can you think of a better way to promote socialism? The Right is the best marketing Socialism has ever had.

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stevevw · Jun 28, 2026

Maine Progressive said:
“What is going on?” If you succeed in stepping outside you may begin to understand. Socialism and communism are not becoming popular. Neither Islam. We are not slipping into an alternative universe. We are slipping like fish into a net of fear and loathing. Not paranoia in the mental health sense. But paranoia in the ideological sense. The world is changing. And our fear of it. And our dislike of it. Leads us to blindly abandon common sense and run away with others in a trembling delusion. Fear and loathing is a powerful force. Humans all around us take on fearful proportions. That which is just different. Now looks dangerous, insidious, threatening. Our hypersensationalized perceptions replace reality.

I think there has been a lot of negative news oming out. I think this is the result of the onslaught on online media and especially social media. There are too many voices speaking about doom and gloom. Everyones picking things apart and criticising each other.

But as for the change on the political front I think we are seeing new ideas becoming popular and especially socialism. And it sort of makes sense for a couple of reasons.

First the utter failure of political parties in recent years. The broken promises and lies. The mismanagement of people tax money and the gradual eroding of rights and standard of living. Though its still better than in many 3rd world nations.

To some extent it seems democracy is failing. We also have leaders promoting alternative ideas to get an edge through popularism. We have seen an abandonment of fiscal restraints especially since Covid and even going back to the 2008 GFC.

Now it seems politicians are making a lot of unreal promises for free stuff to buy votes. Along with many young people disillusioned and not able to buy a home and have a future free stuff sounds very attractive. Now we are seeing politicians win based on these promises.

This is very much aligned with socialism and even hard socialism. We just seen 3 hard socialist and in fact more like communists win the primaries with Mandami's support. As he said we need more communists.

I honestly think many young people who have no idea about what communism or socialism is see this as great and are voting for it. This is causing a division within the Dems where some long time mainstream Dems are being defeated by these radical socialist. Now they have to either distance themselves from this or support them as they will be in the senate pushing these ideas.

Perhaps this is inevitable as the curent system was not working and people want something different. Young people have no idea what socialism and communism is. They have this unreal idealistic view and don't realise the practial harm it will do. But they cannot resist the idea of free stuff.

Democratic socialists are winning in US cities with message of getting stuff done

Democratic socialists are winning in US cities with message of getting stuff done

Mayors such as New York’s Zohran Mamdani show leftwing ideology can go hand-in-hand with effective governance

www.theguardian.com

New Poll: Democratic Socialism Is Now Mainstream

New Poll: Democratic Socialism Is Now Mainstream

A national poll from Jacobin, DSA Fund, and Data for Progress finds broad support for democratic socialist leaders and left-wing policies.

jacobin.com

Half of Gen Z supports Marxism/socialism. Here’s why

Half of Gen Z supports Marxism/socialism. Here’s why.

A new poll reveals the disquieting extent of young Americans’ support for Marxism. However, it also divulges the reasons behind the popularity of collectivism and the seeds of its destruction. The number of young Americans who have a favorable view of Marxism has increased five-fold in just one...

blog.acton.org

That was 2020. I would say its now well above half and more like 60% plus.

Tuur · Jun 28, 2026

Maine Progressive said:
“What is going on?” If you succeed in stepping outside you may begin to understand. Socialism and communism are not becoming popular. Neither Islam. We are not slipping into an alternative universe. We are slipping like fish into a net of fear and loathing. Not paranoia in the mental health sense. But paranoia in the ideological sense. The world is changing. And our fear of it. And our dislike of it. Leads us to blindly abandon common sense and run away with others in a trembling delusion. Fear and loathing is a powerful force. Humans all around us take on fearful proportions. That which is just different. Now looks dangerous, insidious, threatening. Our hypersensationalized perceptions replace reality.

If socialism and communism aren't becoming popular, then Mamdani wouldn't be mayor of NYC and those he supported wouldn't have won primaries. That's what their constituents voted for. Given how these precincts have voted Democrat in recent elections, odds favor these candidates winning the November elections.

As to Muslims, right now Islam is the fastest growing religion in the US. We can say that's bad; we can say that's good. But whatever we say about it, Islam is the fastest growing religion in the US. Period.

Maine Progressive · Jul 1, 2026

stevevw said:
They have this unreal idealistic view and don't realise the practial harm it will do. But they cannot resist the idea of free stuff.As I said in the OP, they do see the "practical harm that is being done" in predatory student loans and astronomical health care costs and they rationally expect the government to address these economic inequities. So when there call to address these inequities is called ‘Socialism’, it’s not wonder they begin to support in. As I said, the Right is the best marketing Socialism has ever had.

(I don’t understand how my reply got printed right in with your quote. I apologize. I’m still clumsy with this system.)

I do agree with you often despite our disputes. And I fervently agree with your statement “There are too many voices speaking about doom and gloom”. I refer to it as ‘fear and loathing’. Playing on what we fear and what we don’t like in ways that make us look patriotic or holy or righteous or politically correct. I don’t pretend it’s only the right that does it. But neither side takes up the real issues. Hunger. Discrimination. Poverty. Wealth disparity. Populism at the expense of good governance. Instead we waste time on pelvic theology and politically correct speaking. Easy, cheap morality. Take the growth of Islam. It's growth rate, as a percentage, may be highest, but as a reality it is and always will be a tiny, harmless minority. However, it is so cool to see it as a fearful danger that lets us look like righteous defenders of the faith.

Speaking of unreal promises for free stuff : "People that are against Tariffs are FOOLS! ... A dividend of at least $2,000 a person (not including high income people!) will be paid to everyone," Donald Trump

Maine Progressive · Jul 1, 2026

Tuur said:
If socialism and communism aren't becoming popular, then Mamdani wouldn't be mayor of NYC and those he supported wouldn't have won primaries. That's what their constituents voted for. Given how these precincts have voted Democrat in recent elections, odds favor these candidates winning the November elections.

As to Muslims, right now Islam is the fastest growing religion in the US. We can say that's bad; we can say that's good. But whatever we say about it, Islam is the fastest growing religion in the US. Period.

Take the growth of Islam. It's growth rate, as a percentage, may be highest, but as a reality it is and always will be a tiny, harmless minority. However, it is so cool to see it as a fearful danger that lets us look like righteous defenders of the faith.

stevevw · Jul 2, 2026

Maine Progressive said:
(I don’t understand how my reply got printed right in with your quote. I apologize. I’m still clumsy with this system.)

Thats ok I am not sure why either. I was reading it and I thought, "did I say that" lol.

Maine Progressive said:
I do agree with you often despite our disputes. And I fervently agree with your statement “There are too many voices speaking about doom and gloom”. I refer to it as ‘fear and loathing’.

Thats a cult movie lol Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas with Jonny Depp. But I know what you mean.

Maine Progressive said:
Playing on what we fear and what we don’t like in ways that make us look patriotic or holy or righteous or politically correct. I don’t pretend it’s only the right that does it. But neither side takes up the real issues. Hunger. Discrimination. Poverty. Wealth disparity. Populism at the expense of good governance.

Yes 'popularism' is the new politics. I remember a time when unpopular policies were sort of accepted as necessary medicine to make things better. Especially economically. Just like an individual or family having to go without certain luxuries because they could not afford it.

Now it seems that restraint is evil and unkind. There is only a certain amount of money and borrowing more only makes it ten times harder for future generations.

But then some would say that this system is wrong in the first place. I agree and ultimately under Christ Christians are to sacrifice themselves for the good of others. Which means going without to help someone in need. But ina materialistic society not many people want to go without.

Maine Progressive said:
Instead we waste time on pelvic theology and politically correct speaking. Easy, cheap morality. Take the growth of Islam. It's growth rate, as a percentage, may be highest, but as a reality it is and always will be a tiny, harmless minority. However, it is so cool to see it as a fearful danger that lets us look like righteous defenders of the faith.

I am not sure its a small minority. Though it is often the small number who make the most noise and inflict the most harm. It only takes one radical to murder an innocent and thats still bad. But I agree that using that to then tar everyone is also wrong.

But the rise of Islam is a big problem. It use to be that this was far removed from western nations. Something we thanked God was overseas. But in recent years this has come upon our doorstep. But the bigger issue if not so much the Islamists but how the ideology of using terror and violence to defeat those who disagree is becoming more popular.

You will notice now that many westerners are also using this same idea. I think this was the Islamist plan all along. Rather than use bombs like they use to they now aim to destablise werstern nations to turn against themselves. Siding with and encouraging local radical groups to rise up and cause hate and division.

Maine Progressive said:
Speaking of unreal promises for free stuff : "People that are against Tariffs are FOOLS! ... A dividend of at least $2,000 a person (not including high income people!) will be paid to everyone,"

I don't know too much about tariffs. The whole world trade thing seems complicated and part of the worlds economic system of globalisation. Nations wheeling and dealing and trying to get the edge over the other.

But then thats how the world works in building a world kingdom as opposed to Gods kingdom.

Maine Progressive · Jul 2, 2026

stevevw said:
Thats ok I am not sure why either. I was reading it and I thought, "did I say that" lol.

Thats a cult movie lol Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas with Jonny Depp. But I know what you mean.

Yes 'popularism' is the new politics. I remember a time when unpopular policies were sort of accepted as necessary medicine to make things better. Especially economically. Just like an individual or family having to go without certain luxuries because they could not afford it.

Now it seems that restraint is evil and unkind. There is only a certain amount of money and borrowing more only makes it ten times harder for future generations.

But then some would say that this system is wrong in the first place. I agree and ultimately under Christ Christians are to sacrifice themselves for the good of others. Which means going without to help someone in need. But ina materialistic society not many people want to go without.

I am not sure its a small minority. Though it is often the small number who make the most noise and inflict the most harm. It only takes one radical to murder an innocent and thats still bad. But I agree that using that to then tar everyone is also wrong.

But the rise of Islam is a big problem. It use to be that this was far removed from western nations. Something we thanked God was overseas. But in recent years this has come upon our doorstep. But the bigger issue if not so much the Islamists but how the ideology of using terror and violence to defeat those who disagree is becoming more popular.

You will notice now that many westerners are also using this same idea. I think this was the Islamist plan all along. Rather than use bombs like they use to they now aim to destablise werstern nations to turn against themselves. Siding with and encouraging local radical groups to rise up and cause hate and division.

I don't know too much about tariffs. The whole world trade thing seems complicated and part of the worlds economic system of globalisation. Nations wheeling and dealing and trying to get the edge over the other.

But then thats how the world works in building a world kingdom as opposed to Gods kingdom.

Thanks. Very well said. P.S. I think you know, but just in case, it was Trump who said everyone will get $2K. Clearly you and I worry about different things. I guess we'll see who had the realistic worries. I hope it's you. Mine scare me.

iarwain · Jul 2, 2026

Shinto-Wise said:
I've always taught myself that if it's on Fox news then it bothers them. So, if it wasn't anything to worry about then they would not talk about it.

As a conservative, of course the idea of rampant Communism and Socialism bothers me. Why wouldn't it? With regard to free healthcare and college, I would just say that nothing is "free". It just depends on what, how much, and who pays the cost?

I am not against helping people who really need it, but it sounds like a lot of people are looking for a free ride. I also would say that I have limited trust in the ability of the federal government to efficiently accomplish these tasks. My hesitance is also rooted in the concern that people are losing their interest in self reliance and hard work, and instead think they are entitled to someone else's money and success to support them. Also, it seems a lot of people like the idea of being very generous with someone else's money.

It seems to me that if it were up to the Democrats, they would open the borders, let anyone and everyone in (so they can vote Democrat, or Socialist), and those who work end up paying for all of them full boat, until the free ride is drained, and the entire system collapses and falls into dependence on the government.

I'd also note that these Socialists are having success in areas that are already heavily Democrat, so it appears that is the direction the party is headed in.

Regardless, all successful economies in the world are a mix of capitalism and socialism. Capitalism needs regulation to keep it from sliding into monopolies, and too much socialism can result in disincentivizing success, production, and growth, as well as restricting choice and increasing the possibility of corruption.

Maine Progressive · Jul 2, 2026

iarwain said:
As a conservative, of course the idea of rampant Communism and Socialism bothers me. Why wouldn't it? With regard to free healthcare and college, I would just say that nothing is "free". It just depends on what, how much, and who pays the cost?

I am not against helping people who really need it, but it sounds like a lot of people are looking for a free ride. I also would say that I have limited trust in the ability of the federal government to efficiently accomplish these tasks. My hesitance is also rooted in the concern that people are losing their interest in self reliance and hard work, and instead think they are entitled to someone else's money and success to support them. Also, it seems a lot of people like the idea of being very generous with someone else's money.

It seems to me that if it were up to the Democrats, they would open the borders, let anyone and everyone in (so they can vote Democrat, or Socialist), and those who work end up paying for all of them full boat, until the free ride is drained, and the entire system collapses and falls into dependence on the government.

I'd also note that these Socialists are having success in areas that are already heavily Democrat, so it appears that is the direction the party is headed in.

Regardless, all successful economies in the world are a mix of capitalism and socialism. Capitalism needs regulation to keep it from sliding into monopolies, and too much socialism can result in disincentivizing success, production, and growth, as well as restricting choice and increasing the possibility of corruption.

That's how you see it. Who am I to say say I know better. I don’t. But I do disagree. I observe the opposite. Making education accessible to all will inevitably strengthen our country. The claim that the poor are mostly moochers is a lie that has infected the American mindset forever. By actual research the endeavors performed by the Federal government have always been more successful and economical than private enterprise. Proven over and over. Again, the claim of government waste is just propaganda swallowed by the gullible given out by the corporate entities who profit off of it. A lot of people like the idea of taking as much for themselves as possible and finding every excuse to neglect those who need it. Again the Democrats and ‘open borders’ is a lie. Democrats are for sensible reform of the immigration process. Whothinks a woman and her children who commits no crime and works for peanuts is a hidden terrorist or a threat to our jobs or our culture and therefore must be thoroughly vetted and wait ten years for even the slightest chance to gain citizenship….as long as she pays the huge costs of lawyers and fees and forfeits all her money taken in taxes and social security and hopes her employer doesn’t get arrested so she loses her pitiful wages.

stevevw · Jul 2, 2026

Maine Progressive said:
Interesting prediction. I have a sad confidence that it will go in the opposite direction. I hope I'm wrong.

Why do you think it will go the opposite way. Simple logic and maths shows it cannot possibly work. For example if you freeze rents while all other costs go up on maintaining units then there is a growing deficit on the investment. So savings have to be found elsewhere.

That means neglecting repairs and maintenance. That means units unlivable and this then puts pressure on rents on all existing units as availability deminishes.

Add to this the many investors pulling out and too scared to invest and you lose millions if not billions in investment. Already sanctury cities and States are losing billions in companies and small investors moving away.

Then compound this with wasted money on unreal ideas associated with DEI and the redistribution of money and the inherent fraud associated socialist programs and its a big mess. It all sounds good when its first presented that everyones going to get free stuff and its creating a socalist utopia. But soon the cracks begin to be exposed.

Maine Progressive said:
I hope healthy capitalism flourishes and 'opportunity for all' becomes a reality and not just a smoke screen for cruelty and greed. But that is highly unlikely. The unrestrained divide between increasing wealth for the very few and the increasing poverty for those abandoned and left adrift amidst the illusion of prosperity in America will lead to very hard times. I don't know if there will be a swing to Democrats. But I am fairly certain that we are not far from a very angry public. Atlas may shrug. But the people have a boiling point.

Its already beginning. People are beginning to see the unreality of socialism. If they were angry bfore they will be reaching boiling point. That should be a concern as when socialist get angry they resort to a violent uprising just as Marxists have always done.

Maine Progressive · Friday at 6:50 AM

stevevw said:
Its already beginning. People are beginning to see the unreality of socialism. If they were angry bfore they will be reaching boiling point. That should be a concern as when socialist get angry they resort to a violent uprising just as Marxists have always done.

There are no Marxists of influence in America. Only Democrats and progressives and liberals who get demonized as ‘Marxists’ in exactly the same way that conservative Christians get demonized as ‘Bigots’. No difference. If America actually became great I would be delighted. All I know for sure is that all the instances of political violence in America’s history (excluding the Revolution) were led by conservatives—the fight against slavery; the violence against union organizing; the violence against civil rights advocates; the violence against Viet Nam protesters; the violence against ICE protesters. etc.

stevevw · Friday at 10:09 AM

Maine Progressive said:
I had to laugh when I read this. Ooooh, the scary Marxists. There are no Marxists in America. Only Democrats and progressives and liberals who get demonized as ‘Marxists’ in exactly the same way that conservative Christians get demonized as ‘Bigots’. No difference. And, should you be correct in your opinion that ‘Socialism’ (as you call it) is failing and ‘right thinking’ people are moving to restore the ‘greatness of America’, I would be delighted. All I know for sure is that all the instances of political violence in America’s history (excluding the Revolution) were led by conservatives—the fight against slavery; the violence against union organizing; the violence against civil rights advocates; the violence against Viet Nam protesters; the violence against ICE protesters. etc.

You are right. Its not so much the traditional Marxism but new versions such as cultural or Pop Marxism. Surveys show a growing support for Marxism and even Communism amoung young people and especially within universities.

Ending capitalism and collectivism over individual freedoms and rights is also growing amoung young people.

The candidates that recently won primaries over long standing traditional dems has stated themselves that they support Marxist ideology. They cite all the ideas of Marxism such as collectivism over individual freedoms, defunding police, taxing the rich, anti capitalism and the use of force to stop political opponents. Universal healthcare and education paid for and owned by the State.

Part of the problem is that universities have been teaching how bad the west is and that it needs to be destroyed and replaced by socialism. Now we see high support for such ideas and political leaders actively supporting such ideas.

Can the Democratic Party become Democratic Socialist?
On its website, DSA adopts a somewhat anodyne explanation of democratic socialism that nonetheless hints at the orthodox Marxist meaning of the term. Many of DSA’s active members, including members of its national leadership, are explicitly committed to various versions of Marxist socialism. They belong to caucuses like “Marxist Unity.” Some of the group’s ten caucuses cite Lenin and Marxist-Leninism in explaining their commitment to socialism.

Can the Democratic Party become Democratic Socialist?

Socialism, DSA, and the Recent Elections

johnbjudis.substack.com

A recent survey by the Cato Institute and YouGov paints a troubling picture: 62 percent of Americans aged 18–29 say they hold a “favorable view” of socialism, and 34 percent say the same of communism.

The curriculum young people receive from grade school on up has been ideologically reconstructed. They were taught to view all of history through the neo-Marxist lens of oppressor vs. oppressed.

https://www.cato.org/blog/young-americans-socialism-too-much-thats-problem-libertarians-must-fix

Annual Survey Shows Rise in Support for Socialism, Communism
35% of Millennials and 31% of Gen Z support the gradual elimination of the capitalist system in favor of a more socialist system.
30% of Gen Z has a favorable view of Marxism, up 6% from 2019, compared to 27% of Millennials, down 9% from 2019.

Annual Survey Shows Rise in Support for Socialism, Communism | Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation

Over a quarter of Americans (26%) support the “gradual elimination of a capitalist system in favor of a more socialist system” Thirty percent of younger Americans (Gen Z) have a favorable view of Marxism More than one-in-three members (38%) of...

victimsofcommunism.org

JustaPewFiller · Friday at 12:18 PM

stevevw said:
Half of Gen Z supports Marxism/socialism. Here’s why

Half of Gen Z supports Marxism/socialism. Here’s why.

A new poll reveals the disquieting extent of young Americans’ support for Marxism. However, it also divulges the reasons behind the popularity of collectivism and the seeds of its destruction. The number of young Americans who have a favorable view of Marxism has increased five-fold in just one...

blog.acton.org

That was 2020. I would say its now well above half and more like 60% plus.

I think this article you posted hits it on the head.

There is a huge difference between life between say North Korea and Denmark.

They don't want life like in North Korea. They want a system like in Denmark and many of the other Nordic and European countries.

But, they don't know what to call it and it all gets lumped in the "socialism" bucket.

iarwain · Friday at 2:53 PM

Maine Progressive said:
I had to laugh when I read this. Ooooh, the scary Marxists. There are no Marxists in America.

There absolutely are Marxists in America. The founders of BLM self identified as Marxists. They took their experience running LGBTQ protests and brought it to BLM. The tactics used in the "summer of Floyd" were Marxist tactics.

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