How the Right promotes socialism

I've always taught myself that if it's on Fox news then it bothers them. So, if it wasn't anything to worry about then they would not talk about it.

I think the right are pointing out that the idea of free university and healthcare is a socialist and communist idea. Who pays for the free education and healthcare. It has to come from taxes. Who will get taxed the most like in NY. Its the capitalist. The wealthy business people. The owners of production.

I think its the other way around as far as advertisement for communism. It is the Dem states and cities that are turning communist and implementing these radical ideas that are detroying the cities and States. Top businesses leaving as they know it is anti business.

So even more money will be drained and taxes will rise. There will not be enough of other peoples money and things will deteriorate. There will be anarchy as people lose their hard earnt property and money while others demand more free stuff.

This will actually make people realise how crazy this is and turn them away from the Dems. Not sure if it will turn them to the Rep. But they will certainly see the mess that these ideas cause and will reject leaders who are pushing it.

Maine Progressive said:

Interesting prediction. I have a sad confidence that it will go in the opposite direction. I hope I'm wrong.

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Actually come to think of it I reckon you may be right. Or at least theres a movement happening with some momentum for these kind of ideas. There has now been a number of socialist candidates winning primaries. Even knocking out long time mainstream dems.

Maine Progressive said:

I hope healthy capitalism flourishes and 'opportunity for all' becomes a reality and not just a smoke screen for cruelty and greed. But that is highly unlikely. The unrestrained divide between increasing wealth for the very few and the increasing poverty for those abandoned and left adrift amidst the illusion of prosperity in America will lead to very hard times. I don't know if there will be a swing to Democrats. But I am fairly certain that we are not far from a very angry public. Atlas may shrug. But the people have a boiling point.

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The pendulum always swings back and forth. But it seems with more conflict each time. More division and polarisation.

But who would have thought that hard socialism and even communism would become popular in the west. Or Islam. What is going on ? Are we slipping into alternative universes or something ?

Maine Progressive said:

Fox News reports that 62% of GenZ Americans hold a favorable view of Socialism. So consider this. When there is an argument that people shouldn't have to take on astronomical debt to get medical treatment, the Right says 'That's Socialism'. When there is an argument that college students shouldn't be burdened with predatory loans, the Right says 'That's Socialism'. Can you think of a better way to promote socialism? The Right is the best marketing Socialism has ever had.

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Maine Progressive said:

“What is going on?” If you succeed in stepping outside you may begin to understand. Socialism and communism are not becoming popular. Neither Islam. We are not slipping into an alternative universe. We are slipping like fish into a net of fear and loathing. Not paranoia in the mental health sense. But paranoia in the ideological sense. The world is changing. And our fear of it. And our dislike of it. Leads us to blindly abandon common sense and run away with others in a trembling delusion. Fear and loathing is a powerful force. Humans all around us take on fearful proportions. That which is just different. Now looks dangerous, insidious, threatening. Our hypersensationalized perceptions replace reality.

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I think there has been a lot of negative news oming out. I think this is the result of the onslaught on online media and especially social media. There are too many voices speaking about doom and gloom. Everyones picking things apart and criticising each other.

But as for the change on the political front I think we are seeing new ideas becoming popular and especially socialism. And it sort of makes sense for a couple of reasons.

First the utter failure of political parties in recent years. The broken promises and lies. The mismanagement of people tax money and the gradual eroding of rights and standard of living. Though its still better than in many 3rd world nations.

To some extent it seems democracy is failing. We also have leaders promoting alternative ideas to get an edge through popularism. We have seen an abandonment of fiscal restraints especially since Covid and even going back to the 2008 GFC.

Now it seems politicians are making a lot of unreal promises for free stuff to buy votes. Along with many young people disillusioned and not able to buy a home and have a future free stuff sounds very attractive. Now we are seeing politicians win based on these promises.

This is very much aligned with socialism and even hard socialism. We just seen 3 hard socialist and in fact more like communists win the primaries with Mandami's support. As he said we need more communists.

I honestly think many young people who have no idea about what communism or socialism is see this as great and are voting for it. This is causing a division within the Dems where some long time mainstream Dems are being defeated by these radical socialist. Now they have to either distance themselves from this or support them as they will be in the senate pushing these ideas.

Perhaps this is inevitable as the curent system was not working and people want something different. Young people have no idea what socialism and communism is. They have this unreal idealistic view and don't realise the practial harm it will do. But they cannot resist the idea of free stuff.

Democratic socialists are winning in US cities with message of getting stuff done

New Poll: Democratic Socialism Is Now Mainstream

Half of Gen Z supports Marxism/socialism. Here’s why

That was 2020. I would say its now well above half and more like 60% plus.

Maine Progressive said:

“What is going on?” If you succeed in stepping outside you may begin to understand. Socialism and communism are not becoming popular. Neither Islam. We are not slipping into an alternative universe. We are slipping like fish into a net of fear and loathing. Not paranoia in the mental health sense. But paranoia in the ideological sense. The world is changing. And our fear of it. And our dislike of it. Leads us to blindly abandon common sense and run away with others in a trembling delusion. Fear and loathing is a powerful force. Humans all around us take on fearful proportions. That which is just different. Now looks dangerous, insidious, threatening. Our hypersensationalized perceptions replace reality.

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If socialism and communism aren't becoming popular, then Mamdani wouldn't be mayor of NYC and those he supported wouldn't have won primaries. That's what their constituents voted for. Given how these precincts have voted Democrat in recent elections, odds favor these candidates winning the November elections.

As to Muslims, right now Islam is the fastest growing religion in the US. We can say that's bad; we can say that's good. But whatever we say about it, Islam is the fastest growing religion in the US. Period.