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Trump to use wartime powers to promote Coalie

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How could Donald J Trump even have wartime powers absent our being at war?


Trump is using the Defense Production Act, a cold war-era statute used to accelerate American industrial output in times of national need, to provide grants to more than a dozen existing coal plants across the US, including facilities capable of exporting coal.

...In the past year, the Trump administration has doled out hundreds of millions of dollars to the coal industry, signed orders forcing ratepayers to pay extra for ageing plants to stay open and dismantled environmental rules that limit toxins from coal leaching into Americans’ shared air and water.

The administration’s attempts to provide a cuddly rebranding to coal have even extended to creating a new mascot with giant eyes, called Coalie, and gushing social media posts that include an image of a lump of coal wearing sunglasses as if it were on the TV show Love Island.
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Environmental groups strongly criticized the administration’s latest aid for coal. “It is disgusting and reprehensible that the president of the United States is giving away our taxpayer dollars to deadly and expensive coal plants that will make Americans sicker and drive up electricity prices even more,” said Patrick Drupp, climate policy director of the Sierra Club.

“This handout betrays everything Donald Trump promised and only serves his big coal buddies who stroke his ego and hand him shiny trophies.”

Trump’s attempts to revive the coal industry, while at the same time seeking to stymie the rapid growth of clean energy such as solar and wind, have so far floundered. The number of people working in coal has declined by more than 90% in the past century, with more people now working in Waffle Houses across the US than in coal.
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What's with the "Freedom 250" sticker in the upper right corner?
 

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Beautiful, clean coal is the largest producer of electric power in the USA and probably also in the world as well.
Contrary to what Trump says...

Experts say there’s no such thing as “clean” coal.

Echoing the administration's previous coal-related announcements, the White House is once again calling the energy source "Beautiful, Clean Coal." But in reality, there is no such thing as clean coal, according to experts and emissions data.
While Trump is correct that coal is an abundant, energy-dense resource and that the U.S. has more of it than any other country, it is also a fossil fuel that emits carbon dioxide, a greenhouse gas, when burned. The burning of coal is a direct contributor to global warming and human-amplified climate change.
Coal emissions can also lead to health and environmental issues, including respiratory illness, lung disease, acid rain, smog, and neurological and developmental damage, according to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and Energy Information Administration (EIA).
The U.S. Department of Energy says coal-fired electricity has become “cleaner than ever.” However, it still produces significant greenhouse gas emissions and pollutes the environment with coal ash, according to EIA. The EIA found that in 2022, coal accounted for more than half of the CO2 emissions from the U.S. electric power industry.
Michelle Solomon, senior policy analyst at Energy Innovation, told ABC News that “clean coal” is a bit of a misnomer, sometimes referring to technologies that physically clean coal before it is burned and sometimes meaning devices that capture carbon after it's released.
"Burning coal could never be technically considered clean regardless of the treatment applied to it before combustion – it will always emit the largest concentration of greenhouse gases of any fossil fuel, and soil and water pollution from coal and coal ash (what's left after it's burned) will never go away,” Solomon said. “Even the best technologies that reduce air pollutants like sulfur and nitrogen oxides still allow many of these to get through."


-- A2SG, but who're ya gonna believe, experts in the field, or Donald Trump.....
 
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Beautiful, clean coal is the largest producer of electric power in the USA and probably also in the world as well.
"Beautiful, clean coal", is above all one of the biggest lies of Trump. Coal is the dirtiest of all fossil fuels.

Also, read what @A2SG posted.
 
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How could Donald J Trump even have wartime powers absent our being at war?

Trump is using the Defense Production Act, a cold war-era statute used to accelerate American industrial output in times of national need, to provide grants to more than a dozen existing coal plants across the US, including facilities capable of exporting coal.​
...In the past year, the Trump administration has doled out hundreds of millions of dollars to the coal industry, signed orders forcing ratepayers to pay extra for ageing plants to stay open and dismantled environmental rules that limit toxins from coal leaching into Americans’ shared air and water.​
The administration’s attempts to provide a cuddly rebranding to coal have even extended to creating a new mascot with giant eyes, called Coalie, and gushing social media posts that include an image of a lump of coal wearing sunglasses as if it were on the TV show Love Island.​
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Environmental groups strongly criticized the administration’s latest aid for coal. “It is disgusting and reprehensible that the president of the United States is giving away our taxpayer dollars to deadly and expensive coal plants that will make Americans sicker and drive up electricity prices even more,” said Patrick Drupp, climate policy director of the Sierra Club.​
“This handout betrays everything Donald Trump promised and only serves his big coal buddies who stroke his ego and hand him shiny trophies.”​
Trump’s attempts to revive the coal industry, while at the same time seeking to stymie the rapid growth of clean energy such as solar and wind, have so far floundered. The number of people working in coal has declined by more than 90% in the past century, with more people now working in Waffle Houses across the US than in coal.​
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What's with the "Freedom 250" sticker in the upper right corner?
Coalie is smiling because he knows that mankind will, in it's hubris, burn in the heat of climate change like his people burnt in the name of human progress.
 
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Beautiful, clean coal is the largest producer of electric power in the USA…

Incorrect. Coal accounts for 16 % of US electric generation placing it behind natural gas, renewables and nuclear power in size of production.
 
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The tab to keep a Pacific Northwest coal plant on standby keeps rising. Who will pay?

Electric utilities across the Pacific Northwest are fuming that their customers might be saddled with the costs of a coal-burning power plant that isn’t producing any power.

The messy dispute stems from the Trump administration’s ongoing efforts to sustain the American coal industry.

The owner of the coal plant near Centralia, Washington, said it is complying with a federal order to keep the facility open — although it appears to have burned its last lump of coal back in December. Now, TransAlta Corporation is seeking tens of millions of dollars in reimbursement for costs incurred to keep the workforce and the 55-year-old power plant available to operate.

In December, TransAlta’s long-standing plan to retire the only remaining coal-fired power plant in the Northwest was blocked by an emergency 90-day order from Energy Secretary Chris Wright, who deemed the plant vital to regional energy security. Wright has since renewed his order twice, most recently in mid-June.

The Federal Energy Regulatory Commission is now weighing TransAlta’s reimbursement request against briefs in opposition filed by numerous Western utility associations and regional electric grid managers.

All four [utilities] entities rejected TransAlta’s proposed invoicing. They argued it was “unjust and unreasonable” to be billed for coal power that they did not request nor receive.

“If this coal plant is supposedly essential to keeping the lights on, then why has it been sitting idle while families and businesses pay the enormous costs of keeping it online?” Ted Kelly of the Environmental Defense Fund said in a press release. “These coal mandates are increasingly being exposed for what they are: wasteful charades that leave families and businesses holding the bag.”

TransAlta is an independent power producer that no longer has any customers in the Northwest.

TransAlta walks a fine line​

Throughout all this, TransAlta has taken pains to avoid criticizing or antagonizing the Trump administration. During an earnings call with Canadian stock analysts last month, CEO Joel Hunter repeatedly stressed that his company was complying with the Department of Energy order to keep the Centralia coal plant available to operate.

But Hunter also let on that he did not expect Centralia to restart using coal because the price would be deeply uncompetitive.

“It hasn’t run thus far and our expectation is that it likely will not run here, you know, through (the duration of) the order,” Hunter said.

[It definitely sucks to be TransAlta. The small government GOP Administration has ordered you to stay open, so you have costs associated with that. But you have no revenue attached to it. Of course the only thing that would suck worse would be the citizens having to pay for all of this without receiving any benefit.]
 
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The tab to keep a Pacific Northwest coal plant on standby keeps rising. Who will pay?

Electric utilities across the Pacific Northwest are fuming that their customers might be saddled with the costs of a coal-burning power plant that isn’t producing any power.

The messy dispute stems from the Trump administration’s ongoing efforts to sustain the American coal industry.

The owner of the coal plant near Centralia, Washington, said it is complying with a federal order to keep the facility open — although it appears to have burned its last lump of coal back in December. Now, TransAlta Corporation is seeking tens of millions of dollars in reimbursement for costs incurred to keep the workforce and the 55-year-old power plant available to operate.

In December, TransAlta’s long-standing plan to retire the only remaining coal-fired power plant in the Northwest was blocked by an emergency 90-day order from Energy Secretary Chris Wright, who deemed the plant vital to regional energy security. Wright has since renewed his order twice, most recently in mid-June.

The Federal Energy Regulatory Commission is now weighing TransAlta’s reimbursement request against briefs in opposition filed by numerous Western utility associations and regional electric grid managers.

All four [utilities] entities rejected TransAlta’s proposed invoicing. They argued it was “unjust and unreasonable” to be billed for coal power that they did not request nor receive.

“If this coal plant is supposedly essential to keeping the lights on, then why has it been sitting idle while families and businesses pay the enormous costs of keeping it online?” Ted Kelly of the Environmental Defense Fund said in a press release. “These coal mandates are increasingly being exposed for what they are: wasteful charades that leave families and businesses holding the bag.”

TransAlta is an independent power producer that no longer has any customers in the Northwest.

TransAlta walks a fine line​

Throughout all this, TransAlta has taken pains to avoid criticizing or antagonizing the Trump administration. During an earnings call with Canadian stock analysts last month, CEO Joel Hunter repeatedly stressed that his company was complying with the Department of Energy order to keep the Centralia coal plant available to operate.

But Hunter also let on that he did not expect Centralia to restart using coal because the price would be deeply uncompetitive.

“It hasn’t run thus far and our expectation is that it likely will not run here, you know, through (the duration of) the order,” Hunter said.

[It definitely sucks to be TransAlta. The small government GOP Administration has ordered you to stay open, so you have costs associated with that. But you have no revenue attached to it. Of course the only thing that would suck worse would be the citizens having to pay for all of this without receiving any benefit.]
Part of the reason to keep an alternate means of generation available is for shortfalls in generation. Solar and wind by their very nature has variable output, which is why that energy storage I keep harping on is needed to make it work. So the question is what reliable source of generation should coal be replaced with?
 

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Experts say there’s no such thing as “clean” coal.
A curious thing about experts: opinion varies.

In the case of coal, the issue isn't one of cleanliness but one of reliability. If you don't want coal, build something reliable like nuclear to replace it. In the case of the Pacific NW, there's a couple of other options but I'm interested in seeing if someone names them. And no, it isn't solar or wind, which has inconsistent output due to the variable nature of both.
 

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A curious thing about experts: opinion varies.

In the case of coal, the issue isn't one of cleanliness but one of reliability. If you don't want coal, build something reliable like nuclear to replace it. In the case of the Pacific NW, there's a couple of other options but I'm interested in seeing if someone names them. And no, it isn't solar or wind, which has inconsistent output due to the variable nature of both.

We already have, most of our power is from natural gas combined with petroleum; still not ideal but far better coal. Also, having lived through the Texas deep freeze a few years ago, coal is not reliable/dependable. While "renewable energy" was largely blamed for the failure, it was actually the coal plants failing -- plants specifically there to be "dependable, emergency power" -- that caused millions to be without power.
 
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Part of the reason to keep an alternate means of generation available is for shortfalls in generation. Solar and wind by their very nature has variable output, which is why that energy storage I keep harping on is needed to make it work. So the question is what reliable source of generation should coal be replaced with?
We're into the summer season and there has been no call for coal energy in this region. The supply appears to be reliable and cheap so far.
 
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We're into the summer season and there has been no call for coal energy in this region. The supply appears to be reliable and cheap so far.
Irrelevant. Because it's not needed at the moment doesn't mean it won't, and often quicker than thought. All it takes is a heat wave. Been there, done that.

Like it or not, if you want reliable electric generation and you don't build power storage, you're going to have to have an alternate form of generation to make for times when the sun doesn't shine and the wind doesn't blow. Failing to do so is negligence bordering on the criminal. So my point remains: If you don't want that coal plant, then build replacement generation to make up for the shortfall when generation from renewables drops. It's either that or keep coal plants going or choose to sit in the dark.
 
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Like it or not, if you want reliable electric generation and you don't build power storage, you're going to have to have an alternate form of generation to make for times when the sun doesn't shine and the wind doesn't blow.
Nobody said otherwise.

AI Overview (Google: "what is the electricity generation mix in the US west")



The U.S. West (governed by the Western Electricity Coordinating Council) relies on a diverse grid. The regional generation mix typically leans heavily toward natural gas [38%-40%] and hydro [25%-30%], with a rapidly growing share of renewables
 
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