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Iran Negotiations

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I saw this little comparison online. Seems that Obama is the better deal maker.
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Iran announces plans to bring in maritime fees for strait of Hormuz

Iran has announced plans to introduce a system of maritime fees in the strait of Hormuz in two months, after the 60-day period of negotiation that has been triggered by the signing of the memorandum of understanding.

Tehran ... said the strait was under its control and a European plan for a naval mission to escort ships though [sic] the strait would not be welcome. The US on Thursday lifted its blockade of Iran, and oil tankers began freely moving through the critical channel.
 
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Iran announces plans to bring in maritime fees for strait of Hormuz

Iran has announced plans to introduce a system of maritime fees in the strait of Hormuz in two months, after the 60-day period of negotiation that has been triggered by the signing of the memorandum of understanding.

Tehran ... said the strait was under its control and a European plan for a naval mission to escort ships though [sic] the strait would not be welcome. The US on Thursday lifted its blockade of Iran, and oil tankers began freely moving through the critical channel.
Paying Iran the fine is probably cheaper than a permanent escort mission, too. Just something the transport corporations will have to pay and not the tax payer.
 
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"Will the US be able to get Israel to stand down and withdraw?"

Israeli strikes kill 16 in Lebanon hours after ceasefire

Israeli strikes in Lebanon killed at least 16 people on Saturday, Lebanese Civil Defence said, hours after a ceasefire with Hezbollah ‌took effect, with Israel saying it was responding to projectiles fired by the Iran-backed group.

An Israeli military official said Hezbollah had fired more than 50 projectiles at Israeli forces in southern Lebanon overnight, prompting strikes on what the official said were "Hezbollah targets".

The Israeli military, which has occupied swathes of southern Lebanon, said in a statement that Hezbollah's attacks constituted repeated violations of the ceasefire agreement.

Hezbollah also said it ⁠remained committed to the ceasefire but would respond to any attempt by Israel to "seize territory or expand its occupation".

The group said Israeli forces attempted overnight to infiltrate the Ali al-Taher hill ⁠area in southern Lebanon. It said its fighters engaged them, after which Israel carried out airstrikes inside and outside its declared operational area.
 
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“If it doesn’t work out, I’m blaming JD,” he joked. “You better be careful, JD!”

....of course, he'll find someone elso to blame for his horrifically stupid decsion.
 
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Does anyone believe that Trump knew there was a straight of Hormuz that Iran could weaponize? Wouldn’t that have been a consideration of any competent Commander in Chief?
I have to believe his military advisors told him. Many people think he lelieved thst he would overthrow Iran’s government, and they wouldn’t be in a position to do that kind of military activity. But assessing what he believed is just guessing. I don’t put much faith in those guesses.
 
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I have to believe his military advisors told him. Many people think he lelieved thst he would overthrow Iran’s government, and they wouldn’t be in a position to do that kind of military activity. But assessing what he believed is just guessing. I don’t put much faith in those guesses.
Always trust in your gut feelings, Mr. Hedrick. Even if they're wrong 'sometimes'.
 
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Always trust in your gut feelings, Mr. Hedrick. Even if they're wrong 'sometimes'.

...and we're living with the consequences of that advice today with Iran.
 
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I saw this little comparison online. Seems that Obama is the better deal maker.
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'Our president (Obama) will start a war with Iran because he has absolutely no ability to negotiate. He's weak and he's ineffective.' --Trump

You just can't make that up.
 
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'Our president (Obama) will start a war with Iran because he has absolutely no ability to negotiate. He's weak and he's ineffective.' --Trump

You just can't make that up.
What we cant make up is that this guy actually got elected…. And still has supporters.
 
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'Our president (Obama) will start a war with Iran because he has absolutely no ability to negotiate. He's weak and he's ineffective.' --Trump

You just can't make that up.
Actually, I've never seen an example of Trump negotiating well.
 
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Mideast Live Updates: U.S. and Iran Offer Conflicting Accounts of Nuclear Discussions

President Trump and Iran offered conflicting accounts on Tuesday over whether Tehran had agreed to open some of its most sensitive nuclear sites to U.N. inspectors, as top officials from both countries sought to secure support for a lasting peace agreement.

After the latest marathon round of U.S.-Iran negotiations, dueling narratives have also emerged over two other key issues: the safe passage of ships through the Strait of Hormuz and frozen Iranian assets. The disputes reflect not just the high stakes of the talks, but also the morass of details still to be resolved.

Mr. Trump insisted in a social media post that Iran had “fully and completely agreed to the highest level Nuclear inspections,” hours after two Iranian officials said that the nuclear program had not been discussed in detail in talks over the weekend in Switzerland.
The president accused Iranian officials of making false statements and said: “If they did not agree to this, there would be no further negotiations!”

It's a sad day when the POTUS statements have the same credibility as Iran and the late Baghdad Bob.
 
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