New not renewed Covenant

Paul is quite clear as to what is involved in obeying the Tenth Commandment:
I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence/sexual desire KJV

The tenth commandment can be broken without any outward act, it concerns what goes on, on the inside of man, his thoughts/desires/coveting

HIM said:

(Staff edit)Let's take a look at Chadash, chadesh.

Without me watching an hour and a half video to find your evidence. I assume the leg you stand on is the Masoretic text use of the vowel marks is incorrect because the Scrolls found Quran caves do not support it. Am I right?

That my friend poses a serious issue.

If my search engine is correct, the Holy Writ in respect to "Chadesh" has 63 Occurrences if we do away with the vowel marks. That leaves us in the dark; subject to our own interpretation, or us thinking we are led by God's Spirit or prayerfully us being led by God's Holy Spirit. And or us relying on the LXX as the given interpretation, through our own interpretation of it or through God's Spirit. Which is still subject to ours's at times, as is the Masoretic due to not hearing God's voice at times or not at all as we might be caught up in ourselves.

Out of the 63 only 20 use the suffix ה in the spelling חֲדָשָׁה֙. As you might know the suffix denotes permanence, state of being. In other words makes the word a noun not a verb. Here they are.

Lev 23:16 עַ֣ד ʿa֣ḏ Even unto מִֽ mīֽמָּחֳרַ֤ת moḥŏra֤ṯ the morrow הַ haשַּׁבָּת֙ śּaboṯ֙ sabbath הַ haשְּׁבִיעִ֔ת śּəḇîʿī֔ṯ after the seventh תִּסְפְּר֖וּ tīsəpər֖ûi shall ye number חֲמִשִּׁ֣ים ḥămīśּī֣ym fifty י֑וֹם y֑ôm days וְ wəהִקְרַבְתֶּ֛ם hīqəraḇəte֛m and ye shall offer מִנְחָ֥ה mīnəḥo֥h meat offering חֲדָשָׁ֖ה ḥăḏośo֖h a new לַ laיהוָֽה׃ yhwoֽh. unto the LORD

A new meat offering not renewed

Num 28:26 וּ ûiבְ ḇəי֣וֹם y֣ôm Also in the day הַ haבִּכּוּרִ֗ים bīkûirī֗ym of the firstfruits בְּ bəהַקְרִ֨יבְ haqərī֨yḇəכֶ֜ם ḵe֜m when ye bring מִנְחָ֤ה mīnəḥo֤h meat offering חֲדָשָׁה֙ ḥăḏośâ֙ a new לַֽ laֽיהוָ֔ה yhwo֔h unto the LORD בְּ bəשָׁבֻעֹ֖תֵי śoḇūʿō֖ṯêכֶ֑ם ḵe֑m after your weeks מִֽקְרָא־ mīֽqəroʾ- convocation קֹ֙דֶשׁ֙ qō֙ḏeś֙ [be out] ye shall have an holy יִהְיֶ֣ה yīhəye֣h shall have לָ loכֶ֔ם ḵe֔m כָּל־ kol- all manner מְלֶ֥אכֶת məle֥ʾḵeṯ work עֲבֹדָ֖ה ʿăḇōḏo֖h no servile לֹ֥א lō֥ʾ not תַעֲשֽׂוּ׃ ṯaʿăšֽûi. ye shall do

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This is an interesting perspective. But it seems the author, or search engine may not have considered a few things, or perhaps maybe I am missing something. If you don't mind, I would like to share a few things my studies has shown.

First, Abraham's Children were under God's Promise and Covenant God made with Abraham even after Joseph was sold to Egypt, and later when Jacob came to live there as well.

Gen. 17: 1 And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect. 2 And I will make my covenant between me and thee, and will multiply thee exceedingly.

Gen. 18: 17 And the LORD said, Shall I hide from Abraham that thing which I do; 18 Seeing that Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation, and all the nations of the earth shall be blessed in him? 19 For I know him, that he will command his children and his household after him, and they shall keep "the way of the LORD", to do justice and judgment; that the LORD may bring upon Abraham that which he hath spoken of him ( God's Covenant with Abraham)

Gen. 26: 1 And there was a famine in the land, beside the first famine that was in the days of Abraham. And Isaac went unto Abimelech king of the Philistines unto Gerar. 2 And the LORD appeared unto him, and said, Go not down into Egypt; dwell in the land which I shall tell thee of: 3 Sojourn in this land, and I will be with thee, and will bless thee; for "unto thee, and unto thy seed", I will give all these countries, and I will perform the oath which I sware unto Abraham thy father;

4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in "thy seed" shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; 5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

But Israel was in Egypt for 400 years, and had forgotten "The Way of the Lord". And God heard their cries, and came to deliver them. And offered to them the Same Covenant God made with Abraham.

Ex. 6: 2 And God spake unto Moses, and said unto him, I am the LORD: 3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them. 4 And I have also established my covenant with them, to give them the land of Canaan, the land of their pilgrimage, wherein they were strangers. 5 And I have also heard the groaning of the children of Israel, whom the Egyptians keep in bondage; and I have remembered my covenant.

6 Wherefore say unto the children of Israel, I am the LORD, and I will bring you out from under the burdens of the Egyptians, (SIN) and I will rid you out of their bondage, and I will redeem you with a stretched out arm, and with great judgments:

7 And I will take you to me for a people, and I will be to you a God: and ye shall know that I am the LORD your God, which bringeth you out from under the burdens of the Egyptians. 8 And I will bring you in unto the land, "concerning the which I did swear to give it to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob"; and I will give it you for an heritage: I am the LORD.

And God kept his Word, and delivered them from Egypt (Sin), and brought them into a land in which they were strangers, just as God's Covenant with Abraham Isaac and Jacob declared.

And when God brought them to Mt. Sinai, HE gave them His Great Judgments, just as HE promised in His Covenant with Abraham.

Ex. 19: 4 Ye have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and how I bare you on eagles' wings, and brought you unto myself. 5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine: 6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

This is God's Covenant with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. And God gave His Great Judgments, Statutes and Laws. Chose Levi to administer to Him in the Priest's office. Detailed the duties of the Priesthood, and that Moses, the High Priest who appointed Aaron and his sons, concerning sacrifices.

Ex. 29: 1 And this is the thing that thou (Moses) shalt do unto them to hallow them, to minister unto me in the priest's office: Take one young bullock, and two rams without blemish,

10 And thou shalt cause a bullock to be brought before the tabernacle of the congregation: and Aaron and his sons shall put their hands upon the head of the bullock.

11 And thou (Moses) shalt kill the bullock before the LORD, by the door of the tabernacle of the congregation.

12 And thou (Moses) shalt take of the blood of the bullock, and put it upon the horns of the altar with thy finger, and pour all the blood beside the bottom of the altar.

13 And thou (Moses) shalt take all the fat that covereth the inwards, and the caul that is above the liver, and the two kidneys, and the fat that is upon them, and burn them upon the altar. 14 But the flesh of the bullock, and his skin, and his dung, shalt thou burn with fire without the camp: it is a sin offering.

But Israel broke this Covenant God had with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob with the golden calf event. And god was going to wipe them all out and make a great nation out of Moses. But Moses pleaded with God, and HE relented, and allowed Moses to come up a second time, to secure a Covenant. Now that Judgments were the same as before, but there was a LAW "ADDED" that didn't exist in the Covenant of Abraham that Israel Broke. It was ADDED 430 years after Abraham, because of Transgressions, and was only to be in force "Till the Prophesied "SEED" should come.

This Added Law was the requirement for a man who sinned to bring for his own sin, an animal like a goat or a bull. And "Kill it" in front of a Levite Priest, before the Priest would provide for the Forgiveness of his Sins. You can read about this in Lev. 4.

Jeremiah confirms this.

Jer. 7: 21 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Put your burnt offerings unto your sacrifices, and eat flesh.

22 For I spake not unto your fathers, nor commanded them in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices:

23 But "this thing commanded I them", saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you. (Same exact thing HE commanded Abraham)

24 But they hearkened not, nor inclined their ear, but walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart, and went backward, and not forward. 25 Since the day that your fathers came forth out of the land of Egypt unto this day "I have even sent unto you all my servants the prophets, daily rising up early and sending them": 26 Yet they hearkened not unto me, nor inclined their ear, but hardened their neck: they did worse than their fathers.

So what did God promise to do?

Jer. 31: 31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant "with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah":

32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt (God's Covenant with Abraham); which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make "with the house of Israel"; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. (Like Abraham, Isaac and Jacob)

34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for (because) "I will" forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

How was Abraham, Isaac or Jacob's Sins forgiven? Didn't Abraham "See" the Christ's day and was glad? Consider Abraham's words to his young son Isaac.

Gen. 22: 7 And Isaac spake unto Abraham his father, and said, My father: and he said, Here am I, my son. And he said, Behold the fire and the wood: but where is the lamb for a burnt offering? 8 And Abraham said, My son, "God will provide himself" a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together.

Acts 3: 13 The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.

24 Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days. 25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, "saying unto Abraham", And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

So sorry so long, but in conclusion, Abraham talked to the High Priest "After the Order of Melchizedek". This same Christ, with no beginning and no end, forgave Abraham's Sin. Abraham "Yielded himself a servant to obey God". Abraham didn't need someone else to teach him God's Judgments and Commandments, because the Word of God was right there with Abraham.

But in the covenant God made with Israel, after the golden calf event, God's Judgments and Oracles could only be heard through corruptible Levite Priests. And sins were forgiven by bring a sacrifice to a Levite Priest and killing it, before the Priest would provide for the remission of sins.

But look at you and I. We have the Oracles of God, the "Word of God", in our own home, and can access them anytime we want. We don't have to go to another human to know God, as they did after the "ADDED" Law, Just like Abraham. We don't have to, by requirement of Law, bring a goat to a Levite Priest and kill it, before our sins can be forgiven, just like Abraham.

For me, to imply or suggest that God's Covenant with Abraham was insufficient to the point of God completely rejecting it, and making a "New One", doesn't align with the Whole of the Scriptures, in my view. But it would certainly be true, that God's Promised "New Covenant" with the "with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah", would certainly be NEW to them.

HIM said:

It was not made obsolete it was made old. How do we know because if it were obsolete then it would not be becoming obsolete (old), GROWING OLD near to disappearing as the text states. It would be obsolete good for nothing, gone, disappeared.

(LEB) Heb 8:13 In calling it new, he has declared the former to be old. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is near to disappearing.

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Ok? Maybe you could explain the significance of the distinction you’re making here. I’m not seeing it.

HIM said:

You said it was made obsolete. It is old. It isn't obsolete, it is being made obsolete according to the grammar of the text. It can't be obsolete if it is being made obsolete.

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It'd be best to start with the difference between the old and the new: why God needed to make a new covenant to begin with. In the new, per Jer 31:
1) our sins are forgiven
2) we become His people
3) He puts His law in our minds and writes it on our hearts

As we become His people, God moves us to obey, as per Ez 36, giving new hearts and spirits. It's all about becoming connected to the Vine, first.