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Man-made structures crumble, fall out of use, become obsolete, and get demolished all the time. Dams, bridges, high rise buildings, factories, plants etc.
This isn't barren terrain?
From the OP article
Not the first such "gotcha." Documented weather history in North America is short, so it's hard to find a reference. That's one thing that makes paleoclimatology so interesting. It's why I wonder that the natural range of pecans can tell us something about hurricanes in North America. Pecans grow quite well outside their natural range, but don't tolerate high winds very well. A casual look at the path of recorded tropical systems, keeping in mind that the records are less than two centuries old, and comparing it with the natural range of pecans seems to show that they didn't spread where there was the highest incidents of storms. Given that locally the pecan groves were set out after the last big storm came through in the late 19th Century and stood until the next big one came through in the 21st is what suggested that.
Checking history helps too as one would come across North America's Southwestern Megadrought that lasted from A.D. 1276 to 1299. Along with numerous decades long megadroughts around the world that existed way before the Industrial Revolution.
If you're granting credence to climatologists like you seem to be, just take note of where their concerns lie generally.
Paleoclimatologists. They seem to have the data. They can point to specifics and state what it suggests climate was at that time and the flora and fauna. It can have evidence of droughts. Had it existed prior to the 1920s, people might have realized that the dust mulch technique of farming, then popular in the East, was a recipe for disaster in a region subject to severe droughts. It can also provide "dial-a-climate" information for planning: given X forecast change. It's particularly important given the short baseline of recorded data in the Americas and the even shorter memories of people. Every twitch in weather isn't AGW, despite what we tend to be told.
For sure. But when climate warming is expected to result in greater extremes, then people are bound to attribute extremes to the warming that is happening, even though there may be no actual way to attribute each case to a specific cause.
I do because it encourages panic and people who panic make bad decisions. When it comes to AGW I'm an agnostic, but whether it's valid or not, when the scare predictions don't happen, it's going to make people skeptical or dismiss it entirely out of hand.
At this point I can only view "agnostic" as an ideologically driven position rather than reality driven. And we've been here for a while now.
That's interesting. I did not know that. Makes sense as "Lake" Powell is a heck of a long way from major ag or urban sites - unlike "Lake" Mead.
I definitely knew that. We use that water like its always going to be there.
Yes, I agree 100%.
Some folks believe that the “end of the world” is coming shortly; why would they want to delay that, when they’ve been promised a good afterlife?
