Who owns the Holy Land?

keras · Tuesday at 8:46 PM

In ancient times, God appeared to Abraham and made a promise to him that his descendants would possess the holy Land, all that area from the Euphrates to the Nile. But he had two sons and the descendants of Ishmael dispute possession with the descendants of Isaac and Jacob. Much blood has been shed over this problem and the current situation, as well as the prophetic scriptures make it certain that another attack is in the offing. Psalms 83:1-8, Micah 4:11

Ezekiel 7:14, Psalms 83 and Micah 4 as well as many other prophecies say how the commencement of this war will trigger the Lord’s devastating judgement/punishment of the attackers and will affect the whole world, causing a ‘reset of our civilisation’. A One World Government will be formed, but every faithful Christian, be they of Israel or grafted in, Romans 9:6-8, will gather and settle in all of the holy Land, before the Return of the Messiah. Their proof of ownership is a document kept hidden until now, but soon to be revealed:

Jeremiah 32:6-14 The Word of the Lord came to me: Your relative will ask you to buy his land, as you have right of possession, as next of kin. I bought the Land for 17 shekels of silver and gave the two copies of the deed of purchase to Baruch, who sealed them in a clay jar, so that they would be preserved for a very long time.

Jeremiah 32:37-44 The Lord says: As I brought upon My people exile and disasters, so shall I bring them all the prosperity which I promise to them. In this Land, now a desolation and given over to foreigners, My people will once again buy and sell houses, fields and vineyards. I shall gather Israel and Judah from all the places where they have been banished, bring them back to their heritage and let them dwell here undisturbed. They will be My people and I will be their God. I will make an everlasting covenant with them and will put a fear of Me into their hearts, so they will not again turn away from Me. It will be a joy to Me to do them good and assuredly I will plant them here.

Jeremiah 33:6-26 The Lord says: Now I shall bring healing and care for Israel and Judah, they will see lasting peace and security. I shall cleanse them of all the sins they committed in rebellion against Me. This place will win Me renown from all the nations, when they see the prosperity that I give it. This place, devastated by My judgement will once again hear shouts of joy and praises will be sung in the House of the Lord.

The days are coming when I shall bestow on Israel and Judah the blessings I have promised to them. In those days and at that time, I will give them a righteous leader, from David’s line. As I cannot change day and night, so the promises I made to the Patriarchs, to David and to My priests will be fulfilled.

Have you seen how people say: The two families that the Lord chose – He rejected? Now, others despise My people and they are no longer a single nation. As I have established the fixed laws of the heavens, so I choose the descendants of Jacob, and David My servant, and his line will rule over the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. In My compassion I will restore their fortunes.
Ref: Revised English Bible, abridged and paraphrased.

Israel and Judah – The Lords peoples, who are, since Jesus came and offered Salvation to all, every faithful Christian person. The believers of Jesus; those who put their trust in Him, are grafted in to share the Lords beneficence. Romans 11:17
The Jews have been cut off and only if they do not continue in faithlessness, will they be grafted ack again. Romans 11:23

‘this place, devastated by My judgement’, All of the holy Land, cleared and cleansed by the Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath. Deuteronomy 32:34-43, Zephaniah 1:14-18, Revelation 6:11-17

‘a righteous leader’ – Initially, this is not Jesus as Jeremiah 30:21 and Hosea 1:11…The Lord’s holy people; will choose for themselves a leader.

Maria Billingsley · Wednesday at 9:25 AM

keras said:
In ancient times, God appeared to Abraham and made a promise to him that his descendants would possess the holy Land, all that area from the Euphrates to the Nile. But he had two sons and the descendants of Ishmael dispute possession with the descendants of Isaac and Jacob. Much blood has been shed over this problem and the current situation, as well as the prophetic scriptures make it certain that another attack is in the offing. Psalms 83:1-8, Micah 4:11

Ezekiel 7:14, Psalms 83 and Micah 4 as well as many other prophecies say how the commencement of this war will trigger the Lord’s devastating judgement/punishment of the attackers and will affect the whole world, causing a ‘reset of our civilisation’. A One World Government will be formed, but every faithful Christian, be they of Israel or grafted in, Romans 9:6-8, will gather and settle in all of the holy Land, before the Return of the Messiah. Their proof of ownership is a document kept hidden until now, but soon to be revealed:

Jeremiah 32:6-14 The Word of the Lord came to me: Your relative will ask you to buy his land, as you have right of possession, as next of kin. I bought the Land for 17 shekels of silver and gave the two copies of the deed of purchase to Baruch, who sealed them in a clay jar, so that they would be preserved for a very long time.

Jeremiah 32:37-44 The Lord says: As I brought upon My people exile and disasters, so shall I bring them all the prosperity which I promise to them. In this Land, now a desolation and given over to foreigners, My people will once again buy and sell houses, fields and vineyards. I shall gather Israel and Judah from all the places where they have been banished, bring them back to their heritage and let them dwell here undisturbed. They will be My people and I will be their God. I will make an everlasting covenant with them and will put a fear of Me into their hearts, so they will not again turn away from Me. It will be a joy to Me to do them good and assuredly I will plant them here.

Jeremiah 33:6-26 The Lord says: Now I shall bring healing and care for Israel and Judah, they will see lasting peace and security. I shall cleanse them of all the sins they committed in rebellion against Me. This place will win Me renown from all the nations, when they see the prosperity that I give it. This place, devastated by My judgement will once again hear shouts of joy and praises will be sung in the House of the Lord.

The days are coming when I shall bestow on Israel and Judah the blessings I have promised to them. In those days and at that time, I will give them a righteous leader, from David’s line. As I cannot change day and night, so the promises I made to the Patriarchs, to David and to My priests will be fulfilled.

Have you seen how people say: The two families that the Lord chose – He rejected? Now, others despise My people and they are no longer a single nation. As I have established the fixed laws of the heavens, so I choose the descendants of Jacob, and David My servant, and his line will rule over the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. In My compassion I will restore their fortunes.
Ref: Revised English Bible, abridged and paraphrased.

Israel and Judah – The Lords peoples, who are, since Jesus came and offered Salvation to all, every faithful Christian person. The believers of Jesus; those who put their trust in Him, are grafted in to share the Lords beneficence. Romans 11:17
The Jews have been cut off and only if they do not continue in faithlessness, will they be grafted ack again. Romans 11:23

‘this place, devastated by My judgement’, All of the holy Land, cleared and cleansed by the Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath. Deuteronomy 32:34-43, Zephaniah 1:14-18, Revelation 6:11-17

‘a righteous leader’ – Initially, this is not Jesus as Jeremiah 30:21 and Hosea 1:11…The Lord’s holy people; will choose for themselves a leader.

Is it Holy? Jesus Christ of Nazareth has left it desolate.

"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing! See! Your house is left to you desolate; for I say to you, you shall see Me no more till you say, 'Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!'"

Be blessed.

Lost4words · Wednesday at 9:29 AM

God owns the whole earth.

keras · Wednesday at 3:43 PM

Maria Billingsley said:
Is it Holy? Jesus Christ of Nazareth has left it desolate.

Lost4words said:
God owns the whole earth.

All that area from the Nile to the Euphrates is special to God and is where His faithful Christian peoples will be in the last days.
Ezekiel 34:11-16 says it and Romans 9:24-26 confirms it.

It is people who have been fooled by false beliefs, like a 'rapture to heaven', who cannot comprehend how and why going to live in the Holy Land, is the destiny of us Christians Psalms 37:28-29, John sees us there in Revelation 7:9

In the end times; the world will be under the control of Satan; Revelation 13:1-17. But we Christians will live in our own nation of Beulah; Isaiah 62:1-5. For the final 42 months, Satan will conquer us and some will be taken to safety and the rest must remain. Revelation 12:14 & 17, Zechariah 14:1-2

Maria Billingsley · Wednesday at 4:21 PM

keras said:
All that area from the Nile to the Euphrates is special to God and is where His faithful Christian peoples will be in the last days.

Not really accurate but honestly you are so embedded in Dispensational Futurism it would be very difficult to explain why.

Lost4words · Wednesday at 4:51 PM

Evil already rules the earth...

keras · Wednesday at 11:12 PM

Zechariah 8:2-23 Again, the word of the Lord came to me; I am very jealous for My holy Land, I am burning with jealousy for her. This is what the Lord says; I will return to Zion and dwell in Jerusalem, it will be called the City of Faithfulness and the Temple mount will be called the Holy Mountain.

This is what the Lord Almighty says; Once again old people and children will inhabit the streets of Jerusalem. Even if this may seem impossible to the remnant of this nation, will it be impossible for Me?
I am about to rescue My people from countries in the East and West and bring them back to live in Jerusalem. They will be My people and I shall be their God, in faithfulness and justice.

These are the words of the Lord of Hosts; Take heart, all you who now hear that the Temple is to be rebuilt as the prophets foretold. Before that time, there was no hiring of man or beast, because of your enemies, for I had set every man against his neighbour. But, I do not feel the same toward the remnant of this people as I did in former days, says the Lord of Hosts. For they will sow in safety, I will give them rain and the Land will yield it’s produce. This is the inheritance of My people. To the nations you, House of Judah and House of Israel, have become as a curse; now I shall save you – you will become proverbial as a blessing. Courage, do not lose heart!

These are the words of the Lord; Just as I determined to bring disaster on you when your forefathers made Me angry, so I have resolved to do good again to Jerusalem and Judah. Do not be afraid. This is what you must do; speak the truth to each other and administer true justice in your courts. Do not plot evil and do not love perjury, for all these I hate. This is the word of the Lord.

These are the words of the Lord; Keep the fasts of the 4th, 5th, 7th and 10th months. They will be festivals of joy for Judah. Love truth and peace. In future, nations and peoples will come to Jerusalem to entreat the favour of the Lord. In those days, 10 people from every nation will take hold of a Jew and say; Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you.
Ref; REB, NIV, KJV. Some verses abridged.

‘I am about to rescue My people…they will be My people and I will be their God’. We know from New Testament teaching, that the Lord’s people are every true Christian person, Jew or Gentile. 1 Peter 2:9-10, Rev 5:9-10, Ezekiel 34:11-16 Now I shall take thought for My sheep…I will rescue them from wherever they are scattered in the Day of cloud and darkness. I shall bring them home, to their own Land and make them prosper. Isaiah 60:4, Jeremiah 31:1-6, Ezekiel 36:8-12, Amos 9:14

‘the Day of cloud and darkness’, is the Day of the Lord’s wrath, a CME sunstrike that will de-populate the entire holy Land area, also causing worldwide devastation. Isaiah 30:25-30, Zephaniah 1:14-18, Amos 5:18-20

‘I have set every man against his neighbour’. This is the current situation in the Middle East.

‘Courage, do not lose heart’. This proves that we must pass through the terrible testing and trials of the forthcoming Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath. A literal Day of fire from the sky, of earthquakes, storm winds and tsunamis. It will be a period of ‘cloud and darkness’, from the smoke and ash clouds that will envelope the earth. Zeph. 1:15, Matt.24:29,Joel 2:1-2

‘Peoples will come to Jerusalem to worship the Lord, in the new Temple’. From the context of this quote and from other prophesies, it is clear that this will happen before the Return of Jesus for His Millennial, worldwide reign. Ezekiel 43:4…the Shekinah Glory of God will come into the Temple by the East gate. And even though verse 23 mentions a Jew, as one who enjoys the Lord’s favour, we know from verse 13 and many other prophesies that Christians from every nation and language, Isaiah 56:1-8, will become citizens of Beulah, Isaiah 62:1-5, the new nation formed after the judgement/punishment of fire has cleared and cleansed the entire Middle East. Deuteronomy 32:34-43, Ezekiel 30:1-5, Jeremiah 10:18, Amos 1:2-15, 2 Peter 3:7

David Lamb · 2026-06-04T02:23:51-0500

keras said:
All that area from the Nile to the Euphrates is special to God and is where His faithful Christian peoples will be in the last days.
Ezekiel 34:11-16 says it and Romans 9:24-26 confirms it.

It is people who have been fooled by false beliefs, like a 'rapture to heaven', who cannot comprehend how and why going to live in the Holy Land, is the destiny of us Christians Psalms 37:28-29, John sees us there in Revelation 7:9

In the end times; the world will be under the control of Satan; Revelation 13:1-17. But we Christians will live in our own nation of Beulah; Isaiah 62:1-5. For the final 42 months, Satan will conquer us and some will be taken to safety and the rest must remain. Revelation 12:14 & 17, Zechariah 14:1-2

Romans 9:24-26 says:

(Rom 9:24) even us whom He called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
(Rom 9:25) As He says also in Hosea: "I WILL CALL THEM MY PEOPLE, WHO WERE NOT MY PEOPLE, AND HER BELOVED, WHO WAS NOT BELOVED."
(Rom 9:26) "AND IT SHALL COME TO PASS IN THE PLACE WHERE IT WAS SAID TO THEM, 'YOU ARE NOT MY PEOPLE,' THERE THEY SHALL BE CALLED SONS OF THE LIVING GOD."

Where do those verses confirm that all faithful Christian peoples will in the last days be in "All that area from the Nile to the Euphrates?" Certainly verse 26 says, "in the place where it was said to them, "you are not my people," but are you really saying that all Gentiles who would become Christians were in Israel when God told them that they were not His people?

keras · 2026-06-04T04:59:39-0500

David Lamb said:
Where do those verses confirm that all faithful Christian peoples will in the last days be in "All that area from the Nile to the Euphrates?" Certainly verse 26 says, "in the place where it was said to them, "you are not my people," but are you really saying that all Gentiles who would become Christians were in Israel when God told them that they were not His people?

This interpretation is impossible, so is therefore wrong.
Obviously, it will be the Christian peoples alive after the Sixths Seal, who will occupy the Holy Land. They will gather into the very same place as their spiritual ancestors were exiled out of.

All the faithful Christians; Jews, Gentiles, Eskimos, etc, will gather into all of the Holy Land, our heritage and our great privilege. Proved by how the Anti-Christ 'beast' conquers us. Daniel 7:25, Revelation 13:5-7

David Lamb · 2026-06-04T06:10:08-0500

keras said:
This interpretation is impossible, so is therefore wrong.
Obviously, it will be the Christian peoples alive after the Sixths Seal, who will occupy the Holy Land. They will gather into the very same place as their spiritual ancestors were exiled out of.

All the faithful Christians; Jews, Gentiles, Eskimos, etc, will gather into all of the Holy Land, our heritage and our great privilege. Proved by how the Anti-Christ 'beast' conquers us. Daniel 7:25, Revelation 13:5-7

We'll have to agree to disagree on this. It certainly is not obvious to me that all Christians alive after the sixth seal will occupy the Holy Land.

(Rev 6:12) I looked when He opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood.
(Rev 6:13) And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind.
(Rev 6:14) Then the sky receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place.
(Rev 6:15) And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains,
(Rev 6:16) and said to the mountains and rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb!
(Rev 6:17) For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?"

Nothing there about Christians going to the Holy Land.

Then you mention these verses, which you say prove that "all the faithful Christians; Jews, Gentiles, Eskimos, etc, will gather into all of the Holy Land, our heritage and our great privilege.":

(Dan 7:25) He shall speak pompous words against the Most High, Shall persecute the saints of the Most High, And shall intend to change times and law. Then the saints shall be given into his hand For a time and times and half a time.

(Rev 13:5) And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to continue for forty-two months.
(Rev 13:6) Then he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, His tabernacle, and those who dwell in heaven.
(Rev 13:7) It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation.

Certainly those verses tell us of the evil one opposing the saints, but nothing about all the saints congregating in the Holy and.

keras · 2026-06-04T15:47:26-0500

David Lamb said:
We'll have to agree to disagree on this. It certainly is not obvious to me that all Christians alive after the sixth seal will occupy the Holy Land.

But you can't seem to see that the Sixth Seal will virtually depopulate the entire Middle East region. Prophesies like Zephaniah 1:18, Hosea 4:3; clearly say this. Also the Jews: Isaiah 29:1-4 says that only a few will survive by hiding underground. Confirmed by Romans 9:27

Many scriptures tell of how the Lords peoples will be gathered; -to where?
To the very same place as ancient Israel was exiled from! Romans 9:26 Cleared and cleansed by the Lord; Deuteronomy 32:34-43
Christian Jews and peoples from every tribe, race, nation and language, will come together and travel to Zion;- Jeremial 50:4-5

David Lamb · 2026-06-05T01:39:48-0500

keras said:
But you can't seem to see that the Sixth Seal will virtually depopulate the entire Middle East region. Prophesies like Zephaniah 1:18, Hosea 4:3; clearly say this. Also the Jews: Isaiah 29:1-4 says that only a few will survive by hiding underground. Confirmed by Romans 9:27

Many scriptures tell of how the Lords peoples will be gathered; -to where?
To the very same place as ancient Israel was exiled from! Romans 9:26 Cleared and cleansed by the Lord; Deuteronomy 32:34-43
Christian Jews and peoples from every tribe, race, nation and language, will come together and travel to Zion;- Jeremial 50:4-5

No I can't. Zephaniah 1:18 says:

(Zep 1:18) Neither their silver nor their gold Shall be able to deliver them In the day of the LORD's wrath; But the whole land shall be devoured By the fire of His jealousy, For He will make speedy riddance Of all those who dwell in the land.

That does not "clearly say" anything about "the entire Middle East region," or about the sixth seal. Verse 4 of that chapter indicates that the prophecy is about Judah and Jerusalem, not the entire Middle East region.

(Zep 1:4) "I will stretch out My hand against Judah, And against all the inhabitants of Jerusalem. I will cut off every trace of Baal from this place, The names of the idolatrous priests with the pagan priests—

Hosea 4:3 says:

(Hos 4:3) Therefore the land will mourn; And everyone who dwells there will waste away With the beasts of the field And the birds of the air; Even the fish of the sea will be taken away.

The context is of God's judgment on Israel, not the entire Middle East region (see Hos 4:1). Again no mention of any seal.

You mention Jeremiah 50:4-5 in support of your statement: "Christian Jews and peoples from every tribe, race, nation and language, will come together and travel to Zion;" Those verses are:

(Jer 50:4) "In those days and in that time," says the LORD, "The children of Israel shall come, They and the children of Judah together; With continual weeping they shall come, And seek the LORD their God.
(Jer 50:5) They shall ask the way to Zion, With their faces toward it, saying, 'Come and let us join ourselves to the LORD In a perpetual covenant That will not be forgotten.'

So the children of Israel and the children of Judah are mentioned, but where is there any mention of "Christian Jews and peoples from every tribe, race, nation and language?"

keras · 2026-06-05T05:17:34-0500

David Lamb said:
So the children of Israel and the children of Judah are mentioned, but where is there any mention of "Christian Jews and peoples from every tribe, race, nation and language?"

Judah is the Jews, the Christian peoples are the true Israel, Who else?
From Prophesies like Isaiah 6:11-13 and what Paul says: About [Jewish] Israel; only a remnant will remain.
The vast multitude that John sees - Rev 7:9, can only be living Christian people, worshipping Jesus.

Jeremiah 8:10 I will give the Land to new owners:

Zephaniah 3:1-8 Woe to the place of oppression, filthy and defiled, they heed no warning voice and ignore God’s rebukes. They won’t take correction or place their trust in their Creator. Their leaders have no concern for the people and prophet and priest alike profane the Holy Scriptures.
The people who ‘won’t take correction and trust their Creator’, is the Jewish State of Israel.

The Lord has judged and punished them before, their land laid waste and the towns deserted and He thought: surely now they will fear Me and will accept instruction, but they continue on in their evil deeds and they show no shame for it.
Judah has been punished and exiled before; by Babylon and by Rome. But as Ezekiel 21:14 tells us, there will be a third time.

Therefore: look out for Me, for the Day when I will stand up to witness against you, on the Day that I execute justice upon the nations, for I will pour out My fierce anger and the whole earth will be enveloped by the fire of My wrath.
This will be the great and terrible Day of the Lord’s vengeance and fiery wrath against the nations. Prophesied in the Bible over 100 times. Habakkuk 3:12 2 Peter 3:7, Revelation 6:12-17, +

Zephaniah 3:11-13 On that Day, Jerusalem, I shall wipe away your shame for all the transgressions committed in you, for I shall remove all your proud and arrogant citizens, only the humble and peaceful people will remain and those who never practise evil or speak lies, they will settle in the Land and nothing will disturb them.

This is the great Second Exodus of all of God’s people into all of the holy Land. Every faithful Christian: a vast multitude from every tribe, race, nation and language. Isaiah 66:18-21, Ezekiel 34:11-31, Romans 9:24=26, Revelation 7:9 and the amazing stories in Psalms 107.

Zephaniah 3:9-10 They will all know a pure language, so everyone will know the true Name of the Lord and will praise Him with one accord. My worshippers, all the righteous people will come from afar to worship the Lord and bring offerings to Him. People from every race, nation and language, all the born again Christian people, will travel there to live, in the new nation of Beulah, Isaiah 62:1-5, while the rest of the world is ruled by a One World Government. Daniel 7:23, Revelation 17:12

Zephaniah 3:14-17 Daughter of Jerusalem; sing for joy! For the Lord has taken away your punishments and has cast out your enemies. Now the Lord is with you and you need never again fear disaster.
On the Day of the Lord’s wrath; This is the message for My people: Fear not, stand firm in your faith, your God will keep you safe and will rejoice over you.
Ref: REB, CJB, KJV. Some verses condensed and paraphrased.

This chapter of Zephaniah encapsulates the soon to happen end times story.
It tells how Jerusalem, the holy Land is desecrated by its ungodly inhabitants and will rejoice when they are gone.

How those enemies of the Lord, the evil neighbors, Jeremiah 12:14, and all who reject the Salvation of Jesus, will be uprooted and gone, then the holy Land resettled by the Lord’s faithful believers. Ezekiel 34:11-31 tells it plainly.

Jeremiah 7:30-34 & 8:1-13 The people of Judah have done wrong, they worship idols and have no regard for their Creator....Therefore, the time is coming when I shall fill the valley of Topeth with their corpses.......All the survivors of this wicked race, from wherever I have banished them, would rather die than live. Isaiah 22:14
...Judah is incurable in their waywardness......I listen, but I hear not one word of remorse ....My people do not know the Judgements of the Lord. How can you say: We are wise and we have the Law of God, when your scribes and priests have falsified it? The wise are shamed and where is wisdom in them?
Therefore I will give their wives to others and give their land to new owners, for all of their prophets and priests are frauds....on My Day of reckoning, they will fall with a great crash. I shall surely consume them says the Lord and there will be no grapes on the vine, [Israel] and no figs on the fig tree. [Judah]

We Christians are told by Paul in 1 Thessalonians 5:4-5, that we should know God’s plans for what will happen in the near future. Zephaniah 3 gives it to us, confirmed by the sequence of Revelation chapters 6-7.

What is presented to you in these scriptures, is God’s Promises to His faithful people, His blessings of peace and prosperity, of joy and happiness, of security and long life, as all who love Him and keep the Commandments; will live in His Land.

It is the prophetic parallel of ancient Israel, where Jesus led the people through the desert and how most of them refused to accept the Promise. 1 Corinthians 10:6-13
Ezekiel 20:34-38 tells how, once again, some of His people will revolt and rebel and they will not be allowed to enter the Land of Israel.

In today’s situation, we have many who have accepted the Gospel, but who have chosen their own beliefs about what God intends to do for His people and during this forthcoming test, 1 Peter 4:12, they may fail to stand firm in their trust that the Lord will protect them. This won’t lose their salvation, but it will be a serious disadvantage, 1 Corinthians 3:13-15

The great chapter of Isaiah 35:1-10, is one of the many prophesies that describe the Lord’s faithful Christian people entering the holy Land, says: ...no one unclean will go there....The Lord’s people, set free: will enter Zion with shouts of triumph.

Psalms 107 and Isaiah 66:18b-21, describe how the Lord will help His people to travel to the holy Land.

David Lamb · 2026-06-05T05:32:19-0500

keras said:
Judah is the Jews, the Christian peoples are the true Israel, Who else?
From Prophesies like Isaiah 6:11-13 and what Paul says: About [Jewish] Israel; only a remnant will remain.
The vast multitude that John sees - Rev 7:9, can only be living Christian people, worshipping Jesus.

Jeremiah 8:10 I will give the Land to new owners:

Zephaniah 3:1-8 Woe to the place of oppression, filthy and defiled, they heed no warning voice and ignore God’s rebukes. They won’t take correction or place their trust in their Creator. Their leaders have no concern for the people and prophet and priest alike profane the Holy Scriptures.
The people who ‘won’t take correction and trust their Creator’, is the Jewish State of Israel.

The Lord has judged and punished them before, their land laid waste and the towns deserted and He thought: surely now they will fear Me and will accept instruction, but they continue on in their evil deeds and they show no shame for it.
Judah has been punished and exiled before; by Babylon and by Rome. But as Ezekiel 21:14 tells us, there will be a third time.

Therefore: look out for Me, for the Day when I will stand up to witness against you, on the Day that I execute justice upon the nations, for I will pour out My fierce anger and the whole earth will be enveloped by the fire of My wrath.
This will be the great and terrible Day of the Lord’s vengeance and fiery wrath against the nations. Prophesied in the Bible over 100 times. Habakkuk 3:12 2 Peter 3:7, Revelation 6:12-17, +

Zephaniah 3:11-13 On that Day, Jerusalem, I shall wipe away your shame for all the transgressions committed in you, for I shall remove all your proud and arrogant citizens, only the humble and peaceful people will remain and those who never practise evil or speak lies, they will settle in the Land and nothing will disturb them.

This is the great Second Exodus of all of God’s people into all of the holy Land. Every faithful Christian: a vast multitude from every tribe, race, nation and language. Isaiah 66:18-21, Ezekiel 34:11-31, Romans 9:24=26, Revelation 7:9 and the amazing stories in Psalms 107.

Zephaniah 3:9-10 They will all know a pure language, so everyone will know the true Name of the Lord and will praise Him with one accord. My worshippers, all the righteous people will come from afar to worship the Lord and bring offerings to Him. People from every race, nation and language, all the born again Christian people, will travel there to live, in the new nation of Beulah, Isaiah 62:1-5, while the rest of the world is ruled by a One World Government. Daniel 7:23, Revelation 17:12

Zephaniah 3:14-17 Daughter of Jerusalem; sing for joy! For the Lord has taken away your punishments and has cast out your enemies. Now the Lord is with you and you need never again fear disaster.
On the Day of the Lord’s wrath; This is the message for My people: Fear not, stand firm in your faith, your God will keep you safe and will rejoice over you.
Ref: REB, CJB, KJV. Some verses condensed and paraphrased.

This chapter of Zephaniah encapsulates the soon to happen end times story.
It tells how Jerusalem, the holy Land is desecrated by its ungodly inhabitants and will rejoice when they are gone.

How those enemies of the Lord, the evil neighbors, Jeremiah 12:14, and all who reject the Salvation of Jesus, will be uprooted and gone, then the holy Land resettled by the Lord’s faithful believers. Ezekiel 34:11-31 tells it plainly.

Jeremiah 7:30-34 & 8:1-13 The people of Judah have done wrong, they worship idols and have no regard for their Creator....Therefore, the time is coming when I shall fill the valley of Topeth with their corpses.......All the survivors of this wicked race, from wherever I have banished them, would rather die than live. Isaiah 22:14
...Judah is incurable in their waywardness......I listen, but I hear not one word of remorse ....My people do not know the Judgements of the Lord. How can you say: We are wise and we have the Law of God, when your scribes and priests have falsified it? The wise are shamed and where is wisdom in them?
Therefore I will give their wives to others and give their land to new owners, for all of their prophets and priests are frauds....on My Day of reckoning, they will fall with a great crash. I shall surely consume them says the Lord and there will be no grapes on the vine, [Israel] and no figs on the fig tree. [Judah]

We Christians are told by Paul in 1 Thessalonians 5:4-5, that we should know God’s plans for what will happen in the near future. Zephaniah 3 gives it to us, confirmed by the sequence of Revelation chapters 6-7.

What is presented to you in these scriptures, is God’s Promises to His faithful people, His blessings of peace and prosperity, of joy and happiness, of security and long life, as all who love Him and keep the Commandments; will live in His Land.

It is the prophetic parallel of ancient Israel, where Jesus led the people through the desert and how most of them refused to accept the Promise. 1 Corinthians 10:6-13
Ezekiel 20:34-38 tells how, once again, some of His people will revolt and rebel and they will not be allowed to enter the Land of Israel.

In today’s situation, we have many who have accepted the Gospel, but who have chosen their own beliefs about what God intends to do for His people and during this forthcoming test, 1 Peter 4:12, they may fail to stand firm in their trust that the Lord will protect them. This won’t lose their salvation, but it will be a serious disadvantage, 1 Corinthians 3:13-15

The great chapter of Isaiah 35:1-10, is one of the many prophesies that describe the Lord’s faithful Christian people entering the holy Land, says: ...no one unclean will go there....The Lord’s people, set free: will enter Zion with shouts of triumph.

Psalms 107 and Isaiah 66:18b-21, describe how the Lord will help His people to travel to the holy Land.

Yes, in the New Testament, we read that the true Israel is indeed the church - all saved by our Lord Jesus Christ. But that doesn't mean that wherever we see "Israel" mentioned in the Old Testament, we have to take it as meaning the church.

I am also curious to know how Christians from all over the world will know when to travel to the Holy Land, seeing that we are not told when the Second Coming will take place.

Who owns the Holy Land?

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