White House to host 9-hour prayer festival focused on Christian roots of U.S.

Hans Blaster · May 20, 2026

wing2000 said:
"Speaker of the House Mike Johnson told God he was worried about a sinister ideology running loose in the land.

And here I thought Mike Johnson *was* the sinister ideology loose in the government.

GoldenBoy89 · May 20, 2026

There’s probably a reason they feel they have to pray so much with this guy in charge.

Akita Suggagaki · May 20, 2026

Farcical

RileyG · May 20, 2026

essentialsaltes said:
Some exceptions may apply...

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Sounds like Mr. Trump needs to go back to Sunday School...

Say it aint so · May 20, 2026

RileyG said:
Sounds like Mr. Trump needs to go back to Sunday School...

What that tells everyone is Trump has no idea what or how grace and salvation works. Probably never did.

RileyG · May 20, 2026

Say it aint so said:
What that tells everyone is Trump has no idea what or how grace and salvation works. Probably never did.

Yes, you're right.

Peace

JSRG · May 20, 2026

GoldenBoy89 said:
Right and they had the opportunity to create any government they wanted. They chose to create a secular government.

GoldenBoy89 said:
And yet they created an expressly secular form of government.

Only sort of.

They did forbid the federal government from setting up any institution of religion in the First Amendment, and in that sense it could be said to be "secular". Now, personally, I think the Establishment Clause has often been interpreted too broadly, but however broadly or narrowly one thinks it should be interpreted, the First Amendment--and the rest of the Bill of Rights--at the time of ratification had no impact on state law, and thus allowed state governments to set up whatever official churches they wanted. And several state governments did have official churches at the time, though eventually they all got rid of them (I believe the last to have a state church was Massachusetts, which disestablished it in 1833).

I feel the The Establishment Clause was less about keeping the government "secular" and more about preventing the federal government from overriding the wishes of the states to have (or not have) their own official churches.

notyourenemy · May 21, 2026

James Madison's 1785 "Memorial and Remonstrance Against Religious Assessments" and Thomas Jefferson's 1802 letter to the Baptists in Danbury, Connecticut handily debunk the notion that the United States was founded to be officially Christian.

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN · May 21, 2026

Landon Caeli said:
It doesn't matter. Human migration is an ongoing natural process. It won't end until the world as we know it ends.

Native American still should be honored. And so should other people.

Landon Caeli · May 21, 2026

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN said:
Native American still should be honored. And so should other people.

Should white people in America be honored?

Pommer · May 21, 2026

Landon Caeli said:
Should white people in America be honored?

They (we) do seem to be favored, if not actually “honored”.

A2SG · May 21, 2026

Landon Caeli said:
Should white people in America be honored?

When aren't they?

-- A2SG, why give them a month when they already have all of 'em....

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN · May 21, 2026

essentialsaltes said:
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Micki Larson-Olson, who was convicted on a misdemeanor charge for her actions on January 6, 2021, when supporters of President Donald Trump stormed the U.S. Capitol, touches a ████ patch on her outfit, during Rededicate 250, a mostly conservative Christian prayer gathering in honor of the United States’ 250th anniversary, on the National Mall, Sunday, May 17, 2026, in Washington. (AP Photo/Julia Demaree Nikhinson)

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This reminds me, when Jesus got mad. When people were selling things in the temple.

Akita Suggagaki · May 21, 2026

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN said:
This reminds me, when Jesus got mad. When people were selling things in the temple.

Wrapping selfishness in religious garb.

DennisF · Tuesday at 3:32 PM

essentialsaltes said:
The American Revolution was not bloodless.

To clarify, after the Revolution against the British, which I agree was certainly bloody, the revolution to which I refer is the one that overthrew the colonial govt in a secret meeting in 1789 in Philadelphia among mostly Freemasons and proceeded to make the U.S. Constitution the highest law of the land for the new govt called "the united States".

DennisF · Tuesday at 3:36 PM

Desk trauma said:
Yes.

My question leads to the real question: can you observe such a sign in America, put there in approval by the govt?

essentialsaltes · Tuesday at 3:45 PM

DennisF said:
To clarify, after the Revolution against the British, which I agree was certainly bloody, the revolution to which I refer is the one that overthrew the colonial govt in a secret meeting in 1789 in Philadelphia among mostly Freemasons and proceeded to make the U.S. Constitution the highest law of the land for the new govt called "the united States".

The revolt or revolution or casting off the colonizing powers had already happened.

In 1789, something new was established. This great nation and its Constitution.

Novus ordo seclorum

DennisF · Tuesday at 4:02 PM

Hans Blaster said:
Plymouth colony, Massachusetts Bay colony, Rhode Island & Providence Plantations, Connecticutt I only have 5 New England Colonies. Are you counting Maine and Halifax? Still not getting to 13 or even close.

But that is on the founding of the *colonies* not of the USA.

Right. And I cannot vouch for all 13, but the original New England core had such statements in their founding documents.

Hans Blaster said:
You should consider using periods to break up your thoughts.

Yes, I tend to write long sentences, but smart people (like you) can parse them okay.

Hans Blaster said:
1. There was no "Rebellion of 1789". The US Constitution was created in 1787 and ratified in 1788 and it was not a "Rebellion".

Yes it was. It overthrew the existing constitutions of the Colonies and substituted the U.S. Constitution as the new basis for govt. That is what rebellions do.

Hans Blaster said:
2. The USA was not "Colonial America" in 1787. The independence of the USA was *recognized* by Great Britain in 1783 with the Treaty of Paris.

Yes, but before 1789, the govt was the colonial govt. It was replaced through the acts in 1789.

Hans Blaster said:
3. The rebellion against colonial rule was far from bloodless and was a full-scale war starting in 1775 that effectively ended with British surrender in 1781.

That is not the rebellion I am referring to, but the subsequent one in 1789. The colonies became independent of Britain in 1776. Then a few years later, in 1789, the colonial govt was replaced by the U.S. govt.

Hans Blaster said:
4. "J.C." was not running the colonial governments of 1775. The pre-rebellion governments were already fairly democratic and in many colonies suppressed by more direct British control.

The two assertions are not in conflict. The colonial govts recognized the lordship of Christ over the colonies, and their adherence to scripture in civil affairs shows this. George was king in name but the colonists had their own local govts of the states. The Articles of Confederation were their constitution.

Hans Blaster said:
5. "We the people" replaces royal sovereignty with the sovereignty of the people. It has nothing to do with religion. It does not make "We the people" into some sort of god.

It has everything to do with "religion" in that it replaced the biblical religion with an Enlightenment religion. Because Enlightenment humanism is different, even antithetic to Christianity, does not put it in a different category. It is an alternative.

Hans Blaster said:
6. Jesuits? In a land where the "Catholic colony" (Maryland) wasn't even controlled by Catholics?

Read Tupper Saussy's book and find out. Jesuits do not proclaim their secret activities to the world. The real question is whether the Freemasons (such as most of the U.S. Founders) are controlled by the Jesuits. That is my working hypothesis, and it appears to be for Saussy too.

Hans Blaster said:
As for the masonic conspiracy notions -- SMH. This is bad history straight out of the anti-Catholic, anti-Masonic, nativist politics of the 1830s and 1840s.

Well, that settles that!
Read Saussy and learn more.

Hans Blaster said:
Misquoting Isaiah is an old tradition going back to at least Matthew. Think of yourself as being in good company.

You're putting up Panama as a government ideal?

I am stating no more nor less that what I have stated about them. Learn to read.

Hans Blaster said:
Sounds like you don't think well of the church 'leaders' organizing and promoting this event.

One can kind of get that impression.

DennisF · Tuesday at 4:06 PM

essentialsaltes said:
The revolt or revolution or casting off the colonizing powers had already happened.

What was the constitution of the colonies between 1776 and 1789? It remained the Articles of Confederation. Look it up.

essentialsaltes said:
In 1789, something new was established. This great nation and its Constitution.

Novus ordo seclorum

That is a quote which in English is "new world order". It is the same NWO that the WEF and European royalty, the Committee of 300, and other Epstein-class rulers at the top of the civil order refer to today.

DennisF · Tuesday at 4:10 PM

A2SG said:
Actually, that was written by Chester Stover, W. Watts Biggers, Treadwell Covington, and Joseph Harris, and sung by Robert Ragaini.

Underdog (TV series) - Wikipedia

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-- A2SG, arranged and produced by Robert Weitz, of course.....

Thank you; they were the prophets - and created a cartoon series worth remembering!
The chorus was a chorus of voices, but Ragaini had the right solo voice for the two stanzas - a well-produced theme song!

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