Yes insufficent evidence. So its open to both possibilities. Insufficent data does not mean its not a possibility.
And so are elves, sentient june bugs, spacemen from Rige; IV, or demons. As much evidence for any one as any other. "But it gotd to be demons becaiae demons are magic. Which ignorea a few thousand possibilities that don't suit your presuppositions.
Considering the data we do have on the ability of the phenomena it is more likely to be something out of the ordinary.
Whatever that means. I'm going to harp on my 300 mph car a bit more. How did we manage to do that (confirmed by police radar, mind you), without the aid of angels, demons, Black Magic, pacts with Satan, mojo dust, Bergenholm Converters, or any help other than the use of cop buddy and his radar gun,my Bank Americard and an account at an electronics store that carried a lot of fairly esoteric stuff and shipped via UPS. Yessirree, '72 Dodge Charger with the 318 V*. No, we didn't drop it out of an airplane.
Even an elaborate hoax is itself a world changing phenomena and incredible feat for humans.
What do you call a "hoax"? I call it more advanced technology. "But it's impossible!" Sure it is. So is sawing a lady in half, but stage magicians do it all the time. Did the radar returns of the UAPs leave and return at 45K mph? Just as surely as my old Charger went from zero to 300 MPH in front of witnesses and confirmed by police radar. Now seeing that's impossible, we had to have enlisted the assistance of the Dark Lord his own self (no thanks. I didn't have a long enough spoon to sup with the devil), or we discovered a New Physics that we would use (I wish, I had enough trouble with the old one), or irt waqs good old Tennessee redneck (or orange neck in my sease) aeing what we could get away with. Fove of us could testify to it, one of us a sworn police oficier. Wghat more do you sant? We did the impossible. I'd been keen to hear your explanation. It is pertinent to this conversating? Oh yeah.
Which many doubt we could achieve. Certainly no nation has come anywhere near such levels.
But som redneck country boy in Tennessee did nack in gthe mid 70s. Dang, were we were better than we knew!
As mentioned the idea that there is complete lack of evidence is a misrepresentation. We have enough data to know the capability of some UAP's is beyond human ability.
No, we do not. Not even close. Back to my 300 mph Dodge. Utterly impossible. But we had the speed radar readings to prove it. Now where were we? Back to evil magic? Nah, Old Church of Cjrist boys don't play that.
That in itself tells us a lot about the intelligence of whoever is behind them.
Bright trch gouy with acces to tech stuff that wou;d make an old geekbook foam at the mouth. Nah, gotta ba aliens. Nemmind no one's ever seen any...
This is another misrepresentation. As mentioned they have identified the UAP's to know their capability is beyond humans.
No, that they have not. The UAPs *appeared" to have superpoers, just like the magician "apears to saw the lady in half. There is a diffference.
This was not from some amateur photographer but military images.
God stufl then. A shame the eagle eyed pilots were unable to visually tract the UFOs leeaving and instantly returning at an estiMATED 45,000 mph. Ain't nobody quite that aharp eyed, are they?
They are quite good images considering this may be miles away.
Oh please! THeye were rubbish; look at what you posted, from crying out loud! They loked like stuff from "Supercar". )Look it up)
You can see details such as the metallic material.
What, the balloons? Of course they were terellac, they're hugh altitude baloons, and nothing to do with the Nimitz Incident.
The videos are also clear in showing the ability of these UAP's.
Sure, that's why hey were created. That's what ECMs are for
Actually the proper statement given is "cannot be explained by human capability"
Unless they're massless, which they are. I'm sorry, can anyone really be this obtuse?
. Like when someone miraculously is cured of cancer. The doctors say its "beyond rational and scientific explanations".
Which no doctor woth hi s his MD qould ever say, because it's stupid. He's attribute it to "spontaneous remission", and give you you volumes of examples a,d reasons why it happens sometimes and not others. Let's no go back to simple superstition again.
Actually its the science that is telling us that its beyond what humans are capable of.
N o, that's starry eyeded enthisiasts and other True Believers who are giving us that.
It defies known science and tech.
Known to whom? The Trinity bomb defiend "know tech", but it was still a city-smasher.
So its natural that explanations are going to be something beyond what we know or are capable of by some very intelligent being.
And the "explanation" are therefore ridiculous. You're still peddling Spacemen and Flying saucers, or the Demonic variation thereof. Reel in your imagination and look at what we can do and not sjat your auperstitious awe leads you to thing is being do.
Do it this say: Say "How can we have done stuff like this with existin tech, or reasonab;le extenaion there. No indetectable spacemen, no unscripural demons (Scti[ural demons eere notably lacking in magical powers),. just us humans. If you're intellectualy honest you'll see where tht that psth takes you, if you're not, then, you'll keep blathering about Spavemen, Ecil Angels, and Black Magic
Being unidentified means all the common explanations like light reflections, wheather balloons, satellites and planes ect have been ruled out.
So you just ruled out stealth aircraft. The air force willl be so sad to lose them. As for stuff being "ruled out", as existing (I'm seen some myself) or as being magic? Good, let's rule out magic, It doesn't exist. Physics, however, does.
Therefore if real the most common explanations most people will give is some sort of intelligence beyond humans.
Becuuse people are culturally programmed to just to idiotic conclusions like that. Ghosts demons, spacemen, hoodos, ghoulies, ghosties, long leggity beasties. Plus those things are *fun*/ Science is boring and hard to understand. So it's spacemen.
Because logically the phenomena acts intelligent with capabilities beyond humans.
No, not logically. That's precisely what trhey arew not..
Emotionally, it has to be space drivers and/or boogermen.
The government has admitted there are UFO
Yes. UNIDENTFIED flying objects. Most, if not all of them, are airplencew. Sory, maye, but that's the facts.
's and that they are beyond human capability.
Except when the "UFO" is actually a KC-135 tanker or, in my case, an A-12 "Oxcart". Went for years now knowing what it was OR HOW IT PLAINLLY DID WHAT i SAW (AND HEARD). Now I do. Pretty amazing.
Not in anything specific. But be primed and open to believing in ideas beyond human ability.
And believe nothing else. Never let reality interfere with a good story.
Thats right. Unlike the past we have many videos of UAP's doing stuff beyond human capability
Sure, just as we have videos pf the Ebterprise moving at warp factor whatever. Let's not be infantile.
Well, right before your instrunets, anyway, You ete? Considerably less so. Visual at 45000KMPH? And I'm upir sainted grandmother.
UAP's speeding way beyond our best jets.
Yep, none of our inventory will go 44KMPH. Then again, neither will anything else. You're back to magic, and there ain't no magic.
Spheres and tic tacs that can turn and dart under water without wings.
They don't need wings. (Factual statement) Figure out why that is nd you'll a you'll becong to see what;s going on.
Come to a complete stop and then take off as incredible speeds. Or turn corners at speeds humans could not survive.
Yep. Had to be massless. So what's masless? Hmmm....
Well it seems I am not the only one.
Sadly, no.
The majority of people are wondering the same thing.
And the vox populi is the vov Dae, right? Well, no.
Its only natural considering what has come out recently seen in the skies.
Only natural, and simply wrong.
I don't think 300 mph is anything like these UAP's.
TSull pointedly missing the point. How did I make the old Charger go 300 MPH according to police radar? That;s impossible! Yep, is is. Did it anyway. Figure it out.
Saying "what we clearly see before our eyes is not doing what we can clearly see" does not make sense.
Sadly, it makes perfect sense. Unless you think the magician realyl sawed the lady in half.
Its like saying the car I clearly see driving by is not doing what I see it doing.
I reckon you'd argue with police radar, admissible in court.
Its also a either/or fallacy
Learn what a fallacy is, and what actualy constitues an EO fallacy.
that it has to be one of these two things
Or not. If you see only two possibilities in this case then you're stuck there.
. It may be real and not magic but some sort of advanced tech.
Whose tech, and what kind? Hint: The origion of the tech being people who we can;t demonstrate ever existed, that ain't a parsimonious explanarion.
Or projections put into our minds.
Magic again.
Or it could be some sort of other dimensional phenomena which even science admits is possible.
Possible doesn't all imply probably. And in this case it's still equivalent to invoking magic.
All these standard possibilities like interference, radar anomelies ect would be a major security concern if it was the case.
YOu don't think ot's a major security concern? Really?
They would discover the hoax.
Who said anything about a hoax?
But in some cases they cannot find any hoax.
There is no hoax.
You obviously did not read what I said. I said "even if its not aliens"
Because the "even if" rendered it ridiculous.
If as you say the phenomena is unexplainable
It's entirely explainable, and the folks who know, know.
then all possibilities are on the table.
Sure. But spacemen, flying saucers, and angels/demons are way, way, WAY down the list.
That you discount phenomena beyond human ability
Nope, there simply aren't any of those in evidence. And to reacch as a primary possibility is simply knee jerk superstition working.
or even demons is your belief and not fact.
Do demons if DSCripture ever do anything magical? Np, they jusy torment poor unfortunates.
Because the phenomena could be real.
WHAT PHENOMENA? Demons? Sure. So are disease germs. So what?
You have dismissed it without any evidence because you claim its unexplainable.
No, I claim it's emtirely explainble. you just prefer for the "explanation" to be spacemen and/or demons.
Therefore you have no evidence that its not real and is fake.
I have precisely as much evidence as you do, it's just least me down a trail my tech geekery leads me. In my economy, the fallacious position is the one that says "It had to be spacemen or demons, nothing else is possible!" id the one that denied all extant evidence, and lunges directly toward superstitious arm waving.
If the evidence is so good and real then it is quite reasonable that people believe such ideas.
Depends on which one they like the best. You like the skooky-loo "answer". "We cn't do that! Nobody can do that! It has to be magic spacemen who can Defy The Laws of Physics, or devils who can just do magic! There is no other possibility! Well yeah, there are far better answers, that don't leave us dancing around a camp fire shaking a rattle.
Afterall the evidence is good enough to convince most and even experts.
Truth by popular vite. Rubbish.
Because the same level of evidence meets the criteria to infer that the phenomena could be real. There is no difference.
Baloney,
Its not a bet. The science is robust
Show us the scientific proof for either aliens or spacemen.
and QM is one of the most verified theories.
Right up until it ain'
Which happens to support such ideas as other dimensions with theories like the Multiverse and String theory.
Whic has nothing whtsoever to to with UAPs unless you're wanibng to claim that's where the spacemen come from.
It ain't science fiction.
It ain't much scvience fact, either.
But even if we go with your claim. Then we would have to admit that even science engages in SF and undermine science itself as the arbitor of what is real or not.
An imaginary claim. I don'y invoke outlandish theories. It's your lot dragging in spacemen and evil spirits.
Most just say its capaibility is beyond what humans can do or explain. Thus it logically follows that the explanation will involve something beyond humans with intelligence.
Magic is too ambigious.
And it has the unfortuneate problem with not existing.
