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JK Rowling: Assisted suicide is a choice, like salted caramel. Is she right?

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The Bible does not explicitly say that people who commit suicide go to hell. In fact, there is no verse in scripture that directly addresses the eternal destination of someone who takes their own life. If you want to be technical...Samson took his own life to take out the philistines.

The whole suicide goin goin to hell is from the catholic church and the belief that self murder is unforgivable cause your dead. But The Apostle Paul teaches in Romans 8:38-39 that absolutely "nothing in all creation" can separate a believer from the love of God. Christ’s sacrifice on the cross paid for the sins of believers—past, present, and future. And the only sin that is unforgivable is blasphmeny against the holy spirit...suicide is not the unforgivable sin.

Much of Christian beliefs do not come from god teaching...but from the personal beliefs of religious leaders
 
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The Bible does not explicitly say that people who commit suicide go to hell. In fact, there is no verse in scripture that directly addresses the eternal destination of someone who takes their own life. If you want to be technical...Samson took his own life to take out the philistines.

The whole suicide goin goin to hell is from the catholic church and the belief that self murder is unforgivable cause your dead. But The Apostle Paul teaches in Romans 8:38-39 that absolutely "nothing in all creation" can separate a believer from the love of God. Christ’s sacrifice on the cross paid for the sins of believers—past, present, and future. And the only sin that is unforgivable is blasphmeny against the holy spirit...suicide is not the unforgivable sin.

Much of Christian beliefs do not come from god teaching...but from the personal beliefs of religious leaders

The concern about self-murder aside (which is a Scriptural concern since obviously we do not want to make ourselves followers of Judas Iscariot, who exemplifies not only betrayal but despair and doing the unthinkable) the main issue is the tendency of people in countries that do legalize doctor-administered homicide is its substitution for legitimate care. After all why waste public resources providing expensive medical care to an elderly person when you can just give them a lethal injection (while in every case from Canada to Belgium also criticizing the United Stated of America for doing the same thing to end the lives of those convicted of aggravated homicide).
 
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the issue is if maid becomes legal then insurance companies will only pay for that option when the cure is too expensive for them, people can underestimate the sociopathy of corporations sometimes
 
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This has become rather personal for me, as I have a 90-year old close relative whom, I think, would choose this. She has three serious illnesses, is utterly exhausted and is frightened of a painful death. I think her son (next of kin) thinks I support Assisted Dying, which I don't. (In fact, as the person who writes our Church's monthly prayer notes, I've been encouraging others to pray against it and praised God when it didn't get through the House of Lords.) I offered to say a prayer for her but she refused it, as she is not a Christian. I'm praying that the Lord reveals His love for her and, hopefully, she is saved and has a natural peaceful death.

So J K Rowling, it is not like choosing salted caramel! (Apologies if this is fake news and you didn't say that.) You only have to see the strain on her son's face, my anxiety about her salvation (and the loving support of those who are praying for her) and her own exhaustion to know that this is a very diificult issue for us, and for the many others in similar circumstances.
 
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A living will should be something you all discuss to protect yourselves from this so-called option that is hanging over all of you. :praying:
 
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So J K Rowling, it is not like choosing salted caramel! (Apologies if this is fake news and you didn't say that.) You only have to see the strain on her son's face, my anxiety about her salvation (and the loving support of those who are praying for her) and her own exhaustion to know that this is a very diificult issue for us, and for the many others in similar circumstances.

I take a dim view of her in general due to the enormous interest she caused in young people in the occult. While I agree with her on the issue of genital mutilation and a few other points, well, the fact is I think Harry Potter does enormous harm to young people by suggesting there is a way of engaging in the occult which is not inherently evil.
 
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I take a dim view of her in general due to the enormous interest she caused in young people in the occult. While I agree with her on the issue of genital mutilation and a few other points, well, the fact is I think Harry Potter does enormous harm to young people by suggesting there is a way of engaging in the occult which is not inherently evil.
Harry Potter isn't so cut and dry though. She went more fantasy version instead of straight occult. The terms "witch/wizard" are being used as a fantasy setting, instead of the occult setting. And when it comes to Professor Trelawney, she wrote the character to make fun of the whole tea leaves reading/mystic idea. So I would view the Harry Potter series as boarderline instead of pushing into pure occult. The fact that it influenced people to join the occult is regrettable as its the closest thing to the idea, but that wasn't her intention. It's like people making a literal religion out of Star Trek/Lord of the Rings. I don't think it was their intention either.
 
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I take a dim view of her in general due to the enormous interest she caused in young people in the occult. While I agree with her on the issue of genital mutilation and a few other points, well, the fact is I think Harry Potter does enormous harm to young people by suggesting there is a way of engaging in the occult which is not inherently evil.
Yes. I remember a discusion with Christian friends, in the early days of Harry Potter, about the books causing children to get interested in the occult. I've never read, or seen, any of her works and, as we didn"t have children, I've not come across them very much. It's concerning if the books and films are encouraging young people to engage with the occult though.

Michie and The Liturgist, thank you for your prayers. :)
 
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Harry Potter isn't so cut and dry though. She went more fantasy version instead of straight occult. The terms "witch/wizard" are being used as a fantasy setting, instead of the occult setting. And when it comes to Professor Trelawney, she wrote the character to make fun of the whole tea leaves reading/mystic idea. So I would view the Harry Potter series as boarderline instead of pushing into pure occult. The fact that it influenced people to join the occult is regrettable as its the closest thing to the idea, but that wasn't her intention. It's like people making a literal religion out of Star Trek/Lord of the Rings. I don't think it was their intention either.
My wife and I wouldn't allow ours to read the Harry Potter series. Years later, when one was home from college, we were informed they had read some of the books and didn't see a problem with it. When I said, "I agree," it was like a "Say what?" moment. Then I explained that the issue wasn't the books themselves, but the interest in the occult and tie-ins. Then I reminded them of the "DIY wand kits" sold as a tie-in at a big-name department store and how it included "spells" to say in making it. It was the interest in such at an age too young to really grasp that the series was fantasy and where that could lead that prompted us to ban the series from our house.
 
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My wife and I wouldn't allow ours to read the Harry Potter series. Years later, when one was home from college, we were informed they had read some of the books and didn't see a problem with it. When I said, "I agree," it was like a "Say what?" moment. Then I explained that the issue wasn't the books themselves, but the interest in the occult and tie-ins. Then I reminded them of the "DIY wand kits" sold as a tie-in at a big-name department store and how it included "spells" to say in making it. It was the interest in such at an age too young to really grasp that the series was fantasy and where that could lead that prompted us to ban the series from our house.
Oh I agree! I think because its so borderline, that it runs a high risk of someone going to the occult. I mean her spells are either Latin or words backwards and are in no way actually occult spells (ive read real witches spells books). But someone can absolutely blur the lines and go to the real stuff, so I wouldnt allow my kids to read it either (If I had any).
 
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