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I am curious why Republicans ignore Trump's wrong doing.

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First off...I voted for Trump...but only cause I thought he was less corrupt than Harris. Also we had know other options. But I have noticed republicans complained about immigrationm, cost of groceries and gas...and yet Obama deported more people than Trump...and groceries and gas are more expensive during Trumps second term and yet republicans have know problem with it.

Both Clinton and Trump are on the Epstien list...the combined circumstantial evidence says both Clinton and Trump are sexual predators and neither republican or democrat actually cares.

An Epstien Victim one who was under 15 and did not want her name released accuse Trump of raping her. Since the 70s Trump has been accused of rape almost 30 times and the big excuse from republicans is he was never convicted. Niether was Clinton but every republican I know believes he is a sexual predator.

In all probability Donald Trump is a rapist...if he was not rich he would have been imprisoned decades ago. I just want to understand how Republicans can ignore what he is.
 

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First off...I voted for Trump...but only cause I thought he was less corrupt than Harris. Also we had know other options. But I have noticed republicans complained about immigrationm, cost of groceries and gas...and yet Obama deported more people than Trump...and groceries and gas are more expensive during Trumps second term and yet republicans have know problem with it.

Obama was excused for saying that under his plan "energy prices would necessarily skyrocket", and it was even made to sound like a good thing that gas prices would go up so that people would be forced into electric vehicles. So why isn't that a good thing now?

Both Clinton and Trump are on the Epstien list...the combined circumstantial evidence says both Clinton and Trump are sexual predators and neither republican or democrat actually cares.

The "Epstein files" thing is merely a talking point to distract from real issues. If we're supposed to focus on the issues that matter and that affect us, the Epstein files do not qualify.

An Epstien Victim one who was under 15 and did not want her name released accuse Trump of raping her. Since the 70s Trump has been accused of rape almost 30 times and the big excuse from republicans is he was never convicted. Niether was Clinton but every republican I know believes he is a sexual predator.

If he wasn't convicted, then there's not enough evidence to continue believing something that may or may not be true. At least not to the point of obsession.

In all probability Donald Trump is a rapist...if he was not rich he would have been imprisoned decades ago. I just want to understand how Republicans can ignore what he is.

I had a feeling I was going to see this line at the end. It seems to be the conclusion of anyone who thinks Epstein should be a major focus (as long as Trump is in office. Epstein will be long forgotten starting in 2028.
 
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First off...I voted for Trump...but only cause I thought he was less corrupt than Harris. Also we had know other options. But I have noticed republicans complained about immigrationm, cost of groceries and gas...and yet Obama deported more people than Trump...and groceries and gas are more expensive during Trumps second term and yet republicans have know problem with it.

Both Clinton and Trump are on the Epstien list...the combined circumstantial evidence says both Clinton and Trump are sexual predators and neither republican or democrat actually cares.

An Epstien Victim one who was under 15 and did not want her name released accuse Trump of raping her. Since the 70s Trump has been accused of rape almost 30 times and the big excuse from republicans is he was never convicted. Niether was Clinton but every republican I know believes he is a sexual predator.

In all probability Donald Trump is a rapist...if he was not rich he would have been imprisoned decades ago. I just want to understand how Republicans can ignore what he is.
It appears you also ignored all the signs until you could not take it any longer. Some Republicans, like myself, saw it immediately as he was going down the escalator and some are holdouts , even if he shoots someone on Fifth avenue, this is the other extreme . Then there are people like MTG who paved the way for Trump until she finally snapped out of it. So you ask why Republicans ignore his wrong doings? Well I am sad to say the Evangelical Christians remain a highly disproportionate and foundational share of his remaining base. Why? Because these people believe he was sent by God but for all the wrong reasons. Our Father has sent them a delusion to test their faith and love. They have fallen far from truth.

Be blessed.
 
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In an 1970s issue of Mad magazine, there was a political version of the poem There Was a Crooked Man. After laying out how the crooked man was crooked, it ended with him re-elected and that his opponent "was crookeder than he." And that pretty well sums it up. We're told relentlessly that Trump is this and Trump is that and "how can you support him?" when his opposition wasn't alabaster saints, either. He won against Hillary Clinton, for crying out loud. Then it was Harris who magically became the heir apparent nominee in a process that reeked to high heaven.

Here's a suggestion: Don't want crooked men and women to win elections? Try running opponents who are less crooked.
 
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Personally, I don’t believe the accusations of Trump being a rapist or a pedophile or the 34 counts from the trial by the Michael Avenatti/Stormy Daniels law firm.

I also believe the first Trump administration was basically successful until Covid 19. The fact that USAID money was spent hauling dangerous samples to Wuhan labs & denials by the so called good doctor Fauci wasn’t Trump’s doing. Trump stepped up to requests for oxygen equipment & hospital ships and then suddenly it was much ado about nothing. Then there was the media orchestrated circus about bleach injections. The media and democrats tried to condemn Trump for closing the border but praised New Zealand for doing the same in 2020.

I believe Trump was largely successful in his foreign policy from 2017-2020. The disaster from the 2011 “Arab Spring” debacle to the ISIS Islamic State was reversed. Immigration issues were handled properly. The situation in the Ukraine was stagnant & not a success but much different than what has happened since 2022. Trump abandoned the JCPOA with Iran because of reasonable doubts. Former IAEA inspector & physicist, David Albright, raised serious issues with Iranian compliance.


Albright was part of the IAEA inspection team that proved Saddam Hussein did not have “weapons of mass destruction.”


Iran was never to be trusted and the Trump strategy was to isolate Iran & side with Saudi Arabia. There was a gruesome murder of a Saudi Arabian dissident journalist and for some reason Saudi Arabia ended up isolated & distrustful of the US ( Iran never did dirty deeds like this? ). Newsweek noted this dilemma in early 2021.




The 2020 election fallout & January 6, 2021 riot raised red flags ( I know, the “gee ya think so?!!!” screamers will chime in). Then what happened? Stability in the Middle East collapsed, unchecked migration, the Ukraine war escalation, calls to pack the US Supreme Court


Crazed calls to abolish the electoral college ( to me the article is from a lunatic asylum )


These are some major reasons I voted again for Trump. It is not his core policies I have a problem with it is his actions like the Iran War, treatment of Ukraine, aggression towards Greenland & the “51st state debacle”, wreckless actions with NATO etc. I have always distrusted Iran & didn’t believe otherwise, believe the US should get out of NATO, distrust many of the so called, traditional “allies” of the US, believe in strong immigration control, etc.
 
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First off...I voted for Trump...but only cause I thought he was less corrupt than Harris. Also we had know other options. But I have noticed republicans complained about immigrationm, cost of groceries and gas...and yet Obama deported more people than Trump...and groceries and gas are more expensive during Trumps second term and yet republicans have know problem with it.

Both Clinton and Trump are on the Epstien list...the combined circumstantial evidence says both Clinton and Trump are sexual predators and neither republican or democrat actually cares.

An Epstien Victim one who was under 15 and did not want her name released accuse Trump of raping her. Since the 70s Trump has been accused of rape almost 30 times and the big excuse from republicans is he was never convicted. Niether was Clinton but every republican I know believes he is a sexual predator.

In all probability Donald Trump is a rapist...if he was not rich he would have been imprisoned decades ago. I just want to understand how Republicans can ignore what he is.
The left's reaction towards Trump from the very beginning was extremely volatile. And it seemed clear they would do just about anything to keep him from becoming president and then say and do anything to get him out of office. There were so many lies and exaggerations against him, that pretty much everything said against him is viewed as just another lie or exaggeration.
 
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First off...I voted for Trump...but only cause I thought he was less corrupt than Harris. Also we had know other options. But I have noticed republicans complained about immigrationm, cost of groceries and gas...and yet Obama deported more people than Trump...and groceries and gas are more expensive during Trumps second term and yet republicans have know problem with it.

Both Clinton and Trump are on the Epstien list...the combined circumstantial evidence says both Clinton and Trump are sexual predators and neither republican or democrat actually cares.

An Epstien Victim one who was under 15 and did not want her name released accuse Trump of raping her. Since the 70s Trump has been accused of rape almost 30 times and the big excuse from republicans is he was never convicted. Niether was Clinton but every republican I know believes he is a sexual predator.

In all probability Donald Trump is a rapist...if he was not rich he would have been imprisoned decades ago. I just want to understand how Republicans can ignore what he is.
You ignored also.
 
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There certainly seems to be a veil over the eyes of understanding in the lives of many, especially Evangelicals, in the US about Trumps 'failings'. We who live outside the US look in wonder at the behavior of this man and how there is no accountability happening. The Church that should be 'salt & light', is tasteless and in darkness. God help America (and maybe the world).
 
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There certainly seems to be a veil over the eyes of understanding in the lives of many, especially Evangelicals, in the US about Trumps 'failings'. We who live outside the US look in wonder at the behavior of this man and how there is no accountability happening. The Church that should be 'salt & light', is tasteless and in darkness. God help America (and maybe the world).
Verses the Christians with a veil over their eyes of understanding who support Democrats regardless?
 
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First off...I voted for Trump...but only cause I thought he was less corrupt than Harris. Also we had know other options. But I have noticed republicans complained about immigrationm, cost of groceries and gas...and yet Obama deported more people than Trump...and groceries and gas are more expensive during Trumps second term and yet republicans have know problem with it.

Both Clinton and Trump are on the Epstien list...the combined circumstantial evidence says both Clinton and Trump are sexual predators and neither republican or democrat actually cares.

An Epstien Victim one who was under 15 and did not want her name released accuse Trump of raping her. Since the 70s Trump has been accused of rape almost 30 times and the big excuse from republicans is he was never convicted. Niether was Clinton but every republican I know believes he is a sexual predator.

In all probability Donald Trump is a rapist...if he was not rich he would have been imprisoned decades ago. I just want to understand how Republicans can ignore what he is.
I have stated many times on the forum I do not believe Trump is a perfect man. Although I am not convinced he is a rapist. Why do I support him even though accusations swirl around him? What other choice do I have? A Democratic Party with leadership headed at break neck speed toward socialism, and communism ? Those that support open borders, protect real criminals, support child mutilation, abortion? Those that have disdain for this country and its system of government ? Those that support taxes and more taxes while ignoring or participating in massive fraud in government programs intended to help children and those that can not help themselves? What choice do I have? I support Trump because he does love this country and what it was founded to be. He has been berated , litigated, attempted assassinated, more than any previous president, yet he still stands strong and fights for this country as founded despite the constant barrage of accusations and slander heaped on him daily. Maybe the question should be why is he so demonized by so many and at least up to this point indestructible? You show me someone who truly loves and actually fights for the American people and this country as founded, more than Trump and I will support them.
 
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There certainly seems to be a veil over the eyes of understanding in the lives of many, especially Evangelicals, in the US about Trumps 'failings'. We who live outside the US look in wonder at the behavior of this man and how there is no accountability happening. The Church that should be 'salt & light', is tasteless and in darkness. God help America (and maybe the world).
You see what you're shown and hear what you're told by who knows what source. Probably ABC.
 
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There certainly seems to be a veil over the eyes of understanding in the lives of many, especially Evangelicals, in the US about Trumps 'failings'. We who live outside the US look in wonder at the behavior of this man and how there is no accountability happening. The Church that should be 'salt & light', is tasteless and in darkness. God help America (and maybe the world).
Not really. It is quite clear to pretty much everyone that Trump's detractors will exaggerate and even fabricate things against him simply because they don't like him and they resent the fact that he won another election and is the president rather than their own guy being the president. When we see enough false claims being made against him, it is obvious that his detractors are doing nothing but crying wolf. That's when we know to ignore them.
So all this talk about his so-called failings and "behavior" becomes quite easy to to ignore after hearing about it for the past six years.
 
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The left's reaction towards Trump from the very beginning was extremely volatile. And it seemed clear they would do just about anything to keep him from becoming president and then say and do anything to get him out of office. There were so many lies and exaggerations against him, that pretty much everything said against him is viewed as just another lie or exaggeration.
Yeah but he was accused of rape back in the 70s, this was going on long before social media or his political carreer. And you know what people were making accusations about clinton as well. My question is why do both republicans and democrats not care about there leaders being the scum of the earth
 
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