Trump hires his ‘pool guy’ to redo historic Lincoln Memorial icon: ‘I’ve probably built more than 100 swimming pools’

Tropical Wilds · Saturday at 9:15 AM

iluvatar5150 said:
man, i thought i was the only one who remembered that game. Didn’t vanilla ice have a similar one?

I'm not sure about Vanilla Ice (other than the new game that just came out that he's in), but Michael Jackson had "Moonwalker" on the Sega Genesis... I sank hours into that game because it was the only way I could listen to his music. My parents owned it on vinyl and I was too nervous to set that up by myself. I did that when I wanted to listen to the Labyrinth soundtrack, accidentally dropped the needle, and scratched the record. To this day, when I hear "Chilly Down," it sounds weird to hear it without the skip.

Tropical Wilds · Saturday at 9:23 AM

Servus said:
They back out because they're afraid of certain people on the left going crazy on them. Probably as soon as their name comes up, the threats start rolling in.

Yeah. Being held accountable for your beliefs and actions is rough. Thoughts and prayers to all those artists affected. May they find artists who sing songs with the passion of those who sang the unrelated Belgian techno anthem, “Pump Up the Jam.”

durangodawood · Saturday at 9:28 AM

Servus said:
They probably back out because they're afraid of certain people on the left going crazy on them. Probably as soon as their name comes up, the threats start rolling in.

Remember what "the right" did to Dixie Chicks?

And then the absurd irony that "the right" ended up coming around to their pov re elective middle east wars. This was a major maga selling point which you could see on display right here - up until the president went in a different direction and maga obviously had no choice but to follow.

Servus · Saturday at 9:51 AM

Tropical Wilds said:
Yeah. Being held accountable for your beliefs and actions is rough. Thoughts and prayers to all those artists affected. May they find artists who sing songs with the passion of those who sang the unrelated Belgian techno anthem, “Pump Up the Jam.”

durangodawood said:
Remember what "the right" did to Dixie Chicks?

And then the absurd irony that "the right" ended up coming around to their pov re elective middle east wars. This was a major maga selling point which you could see on display right here - up until the president went in a different direction and maga obviously had no choice but to follow.

I can't make sense out of either of those posts.

durangodawood · Saturday at 10:07 AM

Servus said:
I can't make sense out of either of those posts.

Right cancels Dixie Chicks and then ironically ends up adopting their position. And then ends up having to do another 180 when the president says to.

Servus · Saturday at 10:13 AM

durangodawood said:
Right cancels Dixie Chicks and then ironically ends up adopting their position. And then ends up having to do another 180 when the president says to.

Is this something from 30 years ago that's supposed to still be fresh in my mind?

durangodawood · Saturday at 10:23 AM

durangodawood said:
Right cancels Dixie Chicks and then ironically ends up adopting their position. And then ends up having to do another 180 when the president says to.

This speaks to their confusion. Oscillating from one thing to its opposite, then back again. They are searching for an ideology to cling to, one that will solve their problems.

The only thing that seems to really satisfy is a sort of scapegoating. The immigrant. The trans person. Etc etc. Something about this sort of enemy making really satisfies, which is why would be demagogues appeal to it over and over through history.

Servus · Saturday at 10:31 AM

durangodawood said:
This speaks to their confusion. Oscillating from one thing to its opposite, then back again. They are searching for an ideology to cling to, one that will solve their problems.

The only thing that seems to really satisfy is a sort of scapegoating. The immigrant. The trans person. Etc etc. Something about this sort of enemy making really satisfies, which is why would be demagogues appeal to it over and over through history.

Sorry but this just keeps getting more confusing. Did you get my post mixed up with someone else's?

Tropical Wilds · Saturday at 10:33 AM

Servus said:
I can't make sense out of either of those posts.

I can't help that.

Tuur · Saturday at 10:48 AM

durangodawood said:
There's no need for an industry threat here. Just plain conscience or fear of organic consequences is enough for artists to dread the possibility of sharing a stage with this moral abomination of a president.

A conscience of a harlot is somewhat required in the business. To quote one of the mice from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, it's a matter of "if it comes to a choice ... (of) just take the money and run, then I for one could use the exercise." Somehow I don't think Elton John was a Rush Limbaugh fan, but he performed at one of his weddings. They can preen about "conscience" and "moral high ground " or whatever they want to call it, but in the end it comes down to good ol' fashioned rank cowardice.

Say it aint so · Saturday at 10:49 AM

Servus said:
They probably back out because they're afraid of certain people on the left going crazy on them. Probably as soon as their name comes up, the threats start rolling in.

Really? You're going to roll with threats?

Tuur · Saturday at 10:51 AM

Servus said:
They probably back out because they're afraid of certain people on the left going crazy on them. Probably as soon as their name comes up, the threats start rolling in.

Oh, I doubt it's even that. It's fear of being marginalized in the business. It's fear of not getting work.

Say it aint so · Saturday at 10:57 AM

Tuur said:
Oh, I doubt it's even that. It's fear of being marginalized in the business. It's fear of not getting work.

I don't think it's that. Really, the majority of those musicians are probably at the playing casinos phase of their career. There are literally two 250 year celebration events. America250 and Trump's Freedom 250/ birthday bash. Many of the artists said point blank they were mislead about the Trump part of it.

Servus · Saturday at 10:59 AM

Tuur said:
Oh, I doubt it's even that. It's fear of being marginalized in the business. It's fear of not getting work.

No doubt.

But also when I asked has anyone who's performed at a trump event been threatened, I got the answer I expected: Yes, several artists booked or considered for events affiliated with Donald Trump have reported receiving intense backlash, including explicit safety threats and death threats.

durangodawood · Saturday at 11:01 AM

Tuur said:
A conscience of a harlot is somewhat required in the business. To quote one of the mice from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, it's a matter of "if it comes to a choice ... (of) just take the money and run, then I for one could use the exercise." Somehow I don't think Elton John was a Rush Limbaugh fan, but he performed at one of his weddings. They can preen about "conscience" and "moral high ground " or whatever they want to call it, but in the end it comes down to good ol' fashioned rank cowardice.

I don't think you can generalize from anecdotes. Or one anecdote in your case. But you could well be right re washed up legacy artists who aren't really creating.

GoldenBoy89 · Saturday at 11:01 AM

Servus said:
They probably back out because they're afraid of certain people on the left going crazy on them. Probably as soon as their name comes up, the threats start rolling in.

You're saying you don't believe the statements the artists themselves have put out clearly stating their reasons for backing out of this event?

Servus · Saturday at 11:07 AM

GoldenBoy89 said:
You're saying you don't believe the statements the artists themselves have put out clearly stating their reasons for backing out of this event?

There's this thing called playing it safe.

GoldenBoy89 · Saturday at 11:17 AM

Servus said:
There's this thing called playing it safe.

They're lying. Got it.

Considering some of the violent people who support this president, you're probably right.

Servus · Saturday at 11:21 AM

GoldenBoy89 said:
They're lying. Got it.

Maybe if you quoted whatever statement you're referring to it could be evaluated.

GoldenBoy89 said:
Considering some of the violent people who support this president, you're probably right.

Trump supporters are threatening those who agree to perform for Trump for agreeing to perform for Trump, sure.

Tropical Wilds · Saturday at 11:25 AM

Why is it always somebody's fault? Oh, a one-hit wonder from 30 years ago doesn't want to do the event anymore... It's not because they think Trump is terrible and don't want to be there, it's because the LIBERALS will boycott them, the LIBERALS threaten them, the LIBERALS blackball them in the industry, the LIBERAL media will lambaste them... If they say it's because of Trump and how they dislike him, they're lying to protect themselves from the LIBERALS. They ALL wanted to perform, then the LIBERALS made it impossible for them. It's NEVER Trump's fault, his policies, his behavior, or his general lack of appeal... It's the LIBERALS. The LIBERALS, the LIBERALS.

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