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Kash Patel snorkeling at the Arizona Memorial

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I’m sure you know that anyone can go in and edit a Wikipedia page. They hold absolutely no validity.
As Goldenboy89 has noted, the references are in the text. But, my question is: are you simply dismissing the information in the Wikipedia page out of hand, or do you have evidence that any of the claims given are actually false? If so, I'd love to see your evidence.

-- A2SG, cards on the table....whattaya got?
 
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There was nothing wrong with it, he didn't do anything wrong.
Except abuse his position and authority for his own personal amusement.

But, as I said, if you're okay with that, that's your business.

Another off topic derail? No thanks.
You made the accusation: "so you decided it's a good way to zap people without really understanding how it should be applied."

You can either back up that accusation, or I can take your decision not to as an admission that you cannot.

-- A2SG, your call....
 
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Unusual things happening is almost always a “good thread”; such is not the case here.

Would Kash Patel have ever been allowed near the water, (let alone under it) at the site, if he wasn’t the Director of the FBI?
(Probably not)

Why did this Admiral decide that it would be a “good idea” to invite Patel to the USS Arizona Memorial?

Would J. Edgar Hoover (or any other FBI Director) have taken such an “invite” seriously?

Kash was always free to turn the invite down, but he choose to accept it.
Some people don’t like that he did that.

Some people think that this isn’t a big deal.

And here we are.

(Both views are equally valid and worthy of a vigorous defense; play nice and have a good time!)
 
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Would J. Edgar Hoover (or any other FBI Director) have taken such an “invite” seriously?
We know of at least one who has specifically said he wouldn't have.

-- A2SG, anyone got enough brain bleach to get rid of the image of J. Edgar in a bikini snorkeling?
 
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Except abuse his position and authority for his own personal amusement.
He went on a 30 minute group tour. Nothing more, nothing else.
 
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We know of at least one who has specifically said he wouldn't have.

-- A2SG, anyone got enough brain bleach to get rid of the image of J. Edgar in a bikini snorkeling?
With a waterproof .38 Special!
 
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He went on a 30 minute group tour. Nothing more, nothing else.
It might have been nice if Director Patel had demurred until after he was out of power to avoid the perception that he was only allowed in the “group” because of the job he held.

But we will never know.
 
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My point is Wikipedia isn’t just random people going in and editing articles about people they don’t like with false information about them. Everything there is cited and from an additional source.
Sure but the citation can be from a biased source or poor source or a source that doesn't really back up the claim. We see that happening all the time here on CF and elsewhere.
 
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I’m sure you know that anyone can go in and edit a Wikipedia page. They hold absolutely no validity.
I wouldn't say no validity across the board, but certainly dubious validity in certain areas like politics.
 
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Sure but the citation can be from a biased source or poor source or a source that doesn't really back up the claim. We see that happening all the time here on CF and elsewhere.
We can’t trust the cite that you won’t look up?
Obviously.

Sorry, not “ripe”.
 
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I’m sure you know that anyone can go in and edit a Wikipedia page. They hold absolutely no validity.
Which part of the Wikipedia article are you challenging, specifically?
 
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Whether or not there are embedded links to citations, the text is purely subjective. Most people just don’t follow links.
Question is, are you the rarity?
 
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It might have been nice if Director Patel had demurred until after he was out of power to avoid the perception that he was only allowed in the “group” because of the job he held.

But we will never know.
Yep, certain people are vilifying out of ignorance.
 
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He went on a 30 minute group tour. Nothing more, nothing else.
Like I've said, if you're okay with Patel abusing his position and authority for his own personal gain and amusement, that's your business.

-- A2SG, just another tourist taking in the sights, apparently....
 
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Like I've said, if you're okay with Patel abusing his position and authority for his own personal gain and amusement, that's your business.
That's not a factor in the fact that he simply went on a brief group tour conducted by the Navy; nothing more, nothing else.

It's interesting to see how ardently some people cling to propaganda, even when it's made clear that it's unfounded. The dismissal of objectivity in favor of sticking to a political narrative.
 
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That's not a factor in the fact that he simply went on a brief group tour conducted by the Navy; nothing more, nothing else.
It absolutely is a factor, since that "brief group tour" is not offered to the general public, it requires special permission and is usually limited to those who have a specific and official reason for visiting the site. Patel did not have that.

It's interesting to see how ardently some people cling to propaganda, even when it's made clear that it's unfounded. The dismissal of objectivity in favor of sticking to a political narrative.
I've offered no propaganda, nothing I've said has been unfounded, nor has my objectivity been dismissed in any way. But, if you feel otherwise, please specify.

-- A2SG, not a fan of being accused of things I haven't done, especially when there's no evidence of it.....
 
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Wisdom tells us when to take something with a grain salt.
Funny how strikes don’t get coded into the replies.
I struck it after realizing the complaint was about ”evidence” being from Wikipedia, not anything that would be cited.

We‘re still waiting for that.
 
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