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James Talarico doubles down on pro-abortion stance: 'The Bible is silent'

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Isn’t it weird that Talerico is studying for a Masters of Divinity to become a pastor yet he doesn’t know that?
I'm surprised that many people that call themselves pro-life don't understand it.
 
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The Law condemns all sin --> the letter kills. But the Holy Spirit testifies to Christ, who said He did not come to condemn and who forgave His crucifiers. Condemnation belongs to the Law; forgiveness belongs to Christ.
What you said is true. And it is also true that the Lord Jesus Christ condemns abortion.
 
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Isn’t it weird that Talerico is studying for a Masters of Divinity to become a pastor yet he doesn’t know that?
A piece of paper doesn’t qualify anyone to be a Pastor.
 
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A piece of paper doesn’t qualify anyone to be a Pastor.
But education should’ve taught him something. ALSO, I want my clergy to be educated.
 
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But education should’ve taught him something. ALSO, I want my clergy to be educated.
A Shepard led by the spirit of God is much more valuable than a seminary degree
 
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The demagogue is the one who is sacrificing babies on the altar of abortion.
lol, the word “demagogue” has an actual meaning, which has nothing at all to do with what you’ve described here.
 
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But education should’ve taught him something. ALSO, I want my clergy to be educated.
I want my clergy to truly be called by God and full of his Spirit. Education matters little.
 
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I want my clergy to truly be called by God and full of his Spirit. Education matters little.
It means a lot to me because before I returned to the RCC I checked out a non-denominational church where I later learned the pastor had no religious education or training. Apparently he just decided to become a pastor one day.
 
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I want my clergy to truly be called by God and full of his Spirit. Education matters little.
Well? Yes, I get it. On the other hand….

Being Catholic, he needs to know what the Church teaches, which is why many priests are well educated. In my diocese, new priests always teach theology at the local Catholic high school.

Theology matters, yes. But love of God, matters more.

I do understand what you’re saying.

Father Solanus Casey was considered “uneducated” and spent countless hours before the Blessed Sacrament and was known for his compassion.

Peace
 
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It means a lot to me because before I returned to the RCC I checked out a non-denominational church where I later learned the pastor had no religious education or training. Apparently he just decided to become a pastor one day.
I think it depends on the denomination. Many require masters degree or other advanced degrees.

Non-denominational is a rather broad term.
 
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The early Christians understood the 10 commandments as including pro life:


Chapter 2. The Second Commandment: Gross Sin Forbidden​

And the second commandment of the Teaching; You shall not commit murder, you shall not commit adultery, Exodus 20:13-14 you shall not commit pederasty, you shall not commit fornication, you shall not steal, Exodus 20:15 you shall not practice magic, you shall not practice witchcraft, you shall not murder a child by abortion nor kill that which is begotten.



Didache ( 100 AD or earlier).

Romans 2:6-16 in regards to pro life in the Hippocatic Oath:


will not give a lethal drug to anyone if I am asked, nor will I advise such a plan; and similarly I will not give a woman a pessary to cause an abortion. I will uphold the sanctity and dignity of human life at all times. Accordingly, I will take no part in abortion if I am asked, nor will I prescribe nor administer a lethal dose of any drug to anyone if I am asked, nor will I advise such actions, nor by performance or omission will I intentionally end any human life.


Thank you for sharing. It has never been ok since the very beginning of Christianity. Not debating, just stating.
 
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I wasn’t responding to that. I was responding to him saying the Bible says nothing about abortion.
Psalm 139, John the Baptist leaping in Elizabeth’s womb, God knowing us before we we born.

Orthodox Judaism and early and conservative Christianity has always been opposed. Not debating. It’s a fact.
 
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The Bible isn't silent. We are called to Love. We are called to have compassion. We are to help. The Bible screams at us.

As the hymn says: "They will know we are Christians by our love. " (A reflection of the New Commandment)

Show us the Love in your actions.
Is there Love in abortion?
Is there Love killing human life?
Is there Love in refusing to help women raise their children?
Is there Love in deporting hard working immigrants who have not committed a criminal offense?
Is it Love to lie to your constituents?

I could go on and on, but the Bible isn't silent about any issue. Are we loving as we are called or are we refusing to hear?
my only comment is when Jesus said love one another as I have loved you, he meant that. Christians are obligated to live that out.

Thank you for your post. It’s well written.

Blessings
 
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What you said is true. And it is also true that the Lord Jesus Christ condemns abortion.
My wife counsels women in crisis, and she says something simple but important: women who are terrified they’ll be bad mothers will not confide in anyone who thinks abortion is murder. They need compassion, not condemnation.
 
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My wife counsels women in crisis, and she says something simple but important: women who are terrified they’ll be bad mothers will not confide in anyone who thinks abortion is murder. They need compassion, not condemnation.
Absolutely! As a society, we need to learn how to provide for single mothers, the poor, and those in distress. There is MUCH work to be done. I'm not even arguing about that. MUCH needs to change.
 

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What you said is true. And it is also true that the Lord Jesus Christ condemns abortion.
Not debating, but providing scripture from the words of our Lord and Blessed Savior, Jesus Christ, Our God:

"Jesus said, “Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these.”- Matthew 19:14 (NIV)

"If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea" - Matthew 18:6 (NIV)

"See that you do not despise one of these little ones. For I tell you that their angels in heaven always see the face of my Father in heaven."- Matthew 18:10 (NIV)
 

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My wife counsels women in crisis, and she says something simple but important: women who are terrified they’ll be bad mothers will not confide in anyone who thinks abortion is murder. They need compassion, not condemnation.
They do need compassion. I agree. I also will never ever back down from what the Lord Jesus Christ says about abortion. We can be compassionate while also being truthful.
 
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Not debating, but providing scripture from the words of our Lord and Blessed Savior, Jesus Christ, Our God:

"Jesus said, “Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these.”- Matthew 19:14 (NIV)

"If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea" - Matthew 18:6 (NIV)

"See that you do not despise one of these little ones. For I tell you that their angels in heaven always see the face of my Father in heaven."- Matthew 18:10 (NIV)
Amen. This is the best post of this thread.
 
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