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The Psychology behind Boomer Bashing
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Wow.
I understand how easy, and perhaps necessary, it is for science to study individuals as a 'group', but I would hope that the truly intelligent person realizes that ALL persons in ANY generation are not 'all the same'. (e.g., There are many varieties of Boomers.) And when Boomers become Christians ... are born again ... they become new creations in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17).
... of course, science doesn't recognize or understand the supernatural things of God, nor do I expect it to.
Based on all the Boomer hatred I read and hear online, and see in the media, I believe many adult children with Boomer parents will eventually estrange themselves from them, and recommend euthanasia for them when their parents are elderly. And they will do all that, believing all their problems in life will be solved that way. Simply eradicate the problem: The Boomer.
... I do believe future psychological studies will confirm my theory (above) for how the younger generations will have chosen to deal with the Boomer Generation. Not therapy, but eradicate them from their lives.
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Good point!
According to AI, many good things are expected to happen for the younger generations, when we Boomers are gone ...
(And many will have money for therapy, if they want to pursue it.)
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My daughter is a millennial and I'm from GenX and I think the finger pointing is a copout and needs to stop. Everyone faces adversity and how we handle it determines the course of our lives. What people are bothered by is largely the result of coveting other periods and experiences. If you keep going back you can find something that was easier than you had it and it gets a little ridiculous after a while. We were born in the time you were and God didn't make a mistake. Our opinions and feelings don't change that and that should settle the matter.
As for millennials, they're living through a period of great disruption and it's never been easier to have the life they want or build wealth. It's really the robber barons 2.0 and the reason they're dejected is because they struggle to adapt. We're in a knowledge economy with a generation of educated people with few ideas. The mind is a muscle and when you want to strengthen it you have to feed it nutrients. If you subsist on social media, Netflix and nonsense you won't know too much or have lightbulb moments.
Grit is the missing component and they can't bridge the gap. You don't move the needle by having fun or living the life. You deny your flesh until you see some movement and reward yourself. The people who want it all often end up with nothing because they don't understand delayed gratification. Success isn't based on degrees or expectations. That's why the wealthiest people are rarely the smartest or have the most education. You don't need that to scale.
I remember a piece on authors that illustrates this point. They compared the results between those with masters degrees and a bachelors and the latter outperformed them. The greatest impact was on their creativity. They had too much in their head. The solution is capacity and using that as your benchmark. Acknowledging your capabilities forces you to gauge if you're hitting the mark or not.
My companion and I were discussing this the other day and the danger of underperformance and how it relates to your connections. The majority are in echo chambers and don't have anyone who challenges them or holds them accountable for their gifts and talents. He does that for me and created a personal curriculum on my behalf to expand my prowess. Every day has a different theme and we address them Monday through Friday. It isn't acceptable for me to have a gap between what I'm capable of and what I'm doing. That's how you soar and overcome.
But you have to put in the work and that's the problem. No one don't want to pay their dues. They want a process, shortcut or for you to walk them through something they could learn on their own if they were determined. Instead of spending money on cell phones, streaming services and the rest you put that on a coach. Someone who can help you move from point a to point b.
That's what I did. I didn't buy myself anything for years. All my money went on instruction for my calling and gifts supported it. That's why I know so much. The investment paid off and I'm taking advantage of what I learned. But there were years when I didn't watch television and I saw my first YouTube video in 2020 and went on Tik-Tok in 2025. If you don't prioritize the main thing you'll always be behind. It doesn't require a superhuman effort and the majority don't work to their potential. You'll be ahead of most if you show up everyday.
Only 5% of the population sets goals and 3% achieves them. If you run the numbers against the population you'll realize the fallacy. You stop competing with the rest when you become intentional and you'll outpace them with ease.
~bella
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I think it helps to understand where the various group's thinking comes from. For instance, boomers might complain about Millennial 'not wanting to do work' when actually Millennials do not like doing unnecessary or duplicative (is that a word?) work that is not needed.
I need to find the article that came from.
I need to find the article that came from.
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I’m an elder millennial. I hate everybody and want to be left alone. My superpower is spending all my disposable income at Starbucks and terminal apathy.
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Being a topic discussed in a science forum it should be emphasised as it has been on numerous occasions, the existence or non existence of God is unfalsifiable in science.
That being said humans are very much inclined to form groups, in the worse case scenario mob mentality rules.
Christians are no exception, the German Christian population was largely complicit in the persecution of Jews in Nazi Germany, by accepting and supporting anti-Jewish laws and profiting from the confiscation of Jewish businesses and property.
There was also the German Christians movement which sought to align Christianity with Nazi ideology.
This seems to be a rather extreme view (or is it Poe's Law?) but lets look at it from a science POV based on the initial assumption the Boomer generation is indeed sociopathic.
According to the science sociopathology is an antisocial personality disorder (ASD) based on both genetics and environment, where the genetic component appears to be polygenic where many genes contribute a small amount to a person's predisposition.
These genes interact with one another and with environmental factors such as childhood experiences and family environment can be ideal conditions for producing sociopathic children.
So the big question that arises did the sociopathic Boomer generation produce a sociopathic Gen X and Millennial generation given they passed on their genes combined with their poor parenting skills being sociopaths?
The evidence suggests the generations are no more or less sociopathic to each other and your scenario of younger generations waiting to knock off their Boomer parents seems rather far fetched.
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Yes, I never took excuses from my kids. I think the biggest problem for the kids is economic. It all started with govt policies of shipping our jobs overseas and Bush war. Monetary policies printing money all the while wages stagnate.
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Remember it was the Boomers who brought you Wild in the Streets (and similar ilk.) For those too young to remember:
The Plot: Max Frost, a 22-year-old millionaire pop star, lowers the voting age to 14 and is subsequently elected President. Upon taking office, he issues an executive order mandating that all citizens over 30 retire, while those over 35 are sent to "re-education camps" where they are force-fed LSD.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
The Plot: Max Frost, a 22-year-old millionaire pop star, lowers the voting age to 14 and is subsequently elected President. Upon taking office, he issues an executive order mandating that all citizens over 30 retire, while those over 35 are sent to "re-education camps" where they are force-fed LSD.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
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Sometimes individuals look for scapegoats. I was the scapegoat growing up in an alcoholic home.
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Honestly? I think the biggest problem for many people today is that they need to surrender their lives to Jesus and follow Him.
Science alone ... therapy alone ... lots of money and fame ... none of that stuff alone is going to permanently cure what ails the hearts of many in this younger generation.
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I could appreciate this science discussion if it didn't keep getting back to referring to Boomers as sociopaths.I second the motion.
( ... Repeated often enough, that message is going 'to stick'. And it's an errant message.)
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I worked in secular counseling for many years, primarily with court mandated individuals who entered dual diagnosis ( chemical dependency & mental health) treatment. When you sit across from a sociopath you definitely will know.
Agreed, it's inappropriate to be calling any group of people sociopaths.
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I think it would be very, very difficult ... as a Christian ... to be a secular counselor, and especially in today's world. (I know I couldn't do it; I'd get fired for talking about Jesus! lol!)
While I believe psychology can help in analyzing and diagnosing some problems, and in offering some temporary solutions, too ... but psychology doesn't heal.
God Alone is Our Healer ... regardless what generation we are.
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You have completely misunderstood my post; of course I don't think Boomers are sociopaths I thought I made this quite obvious in post#20.
One of the theories provided by wannabee psychologists on social media is that Boomers were raised according to the ideas of Dr Benjamin Spock of limiting parental involvement resulting in the creation of a sociopathic generation along with other nonsense causes such as lead poisoning from petrol and paints.
By assuming this is is true along with genetic factors, would have meant Boomers would not only have passed on the genetic nature of their sociopathology, but also the results of poor parenting skills onto their children resulting in the Gen X and Millennial generations exhibiting similar sociopathic characteristics.
Given there are no indicators of Gen X and Millennial generations being sociopathic from both scientific data and social media noise, the most likely conclusion is the Boomers didn't pass on sociopathic behaviours because there was nothing to pass on in the first case.
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I counseled the chemical dependency aspect of clients being treated. Many of the clients were presently on parole and probation. Most of the clients had recently been released from prison. Many of them attended church and twelve step programs in prison.Many were comfortable talking about God in group and individual counseling sessions.
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