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Why the term "brown people" is found in the pejorative when used in discussion and particularly political banter

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It's interesting the response when the OP says he is offended by the term, is basically "Well you shouldn't be." It's funny how others know more about how he should feel, than he does.
 
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Pro tip: Don't call a Mexican a Guatemalan, or visa versa. I do know that a somewhat racist acquaintance who had predominately American Indian ancestry didn't appreciate it when a Hispanic walked up to him and started speaking Spanish.

This is probably a stupid question, but has anyone asked someone with a Hispanic background how they felt about the term "brown people?"
As Hispanics and others have identified themselves as brown skinned, it is probably HOW the term was used which causes the offense and not simply stating a fact.
 
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It's interesting the response when the OP says he is offended by the term, is basically "Well you shouldn't be." It's funny how others know more about how he should feel, than he does.
If OP is offended by a misinterpretation, ought we not point that out?
 
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I believe your not measurable animosity towards the President has filtrated into your thought life so greatly you associate every post with him. And that’s sad

AI edited my post to make it softer and more respectful, But it is noted that you really doesn’t give any care to someone Politely expressing a concern.

How about illegal immigrants That is what they are.

Brown people is not synonymous to illegal immigrants. When I see it used it is used due to skin colour, not immigration status.

Thank you -
 
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If you think, as most profess to do, that being a racist is bad, how would that make "brown people" a bad thing?
Let's go there: Why is the "n" word a bad thing? Because it's deemed as such by those to whom it's directed. Is the term "brown people" offensive to whom it's directed? It sounds offensive, particularly given not all Latinos (to use the term Fluffy did) are brown. Do Latinos find it offensive? If they regard it as offensive, do they consider it as offensive as a certain derogatory term for a Latino who comes to the US. Said term makes a reference to swimming and I won't go further than that because the local Latinos consider it very offensive.
 
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I believe your not measurable animosity towards the President has filtrated into your thought life so greatly you associate every post with him. And that’s sad
The post in my entirety had a very different message:

The level of discourse in this country, primarily but not exclusively from this administration, has deteriorated into hate speech. The hate speech often denigrates particular groups (not only undocumented immigrants, but refugees from dangerous countries who were admitted legally, like Haitians).

Let's look at this logically. If there was not a continuous, non-stop barrage of hate speech daily, it wouldn't matter as much if the "brown people" you mentioned were grouped together. But because hate against certain demographic groups with darker skin drives some people to a fever pitch of anger and hatred, they don't see straight. They see everyone with darker skin and think, "Oh, those are the people who eat dogs that the president talked about," or "those must be rapists and murderers we were warned against."

It seems that, instead of being angry that some "brown people" are being unfairly targeted and victimized, you are angry that you are caught in the vicious cycle because of a generalized physical characteristic. But would that really be the solution? There would still be injustice, seeds of hatred, even if you were lucky enough to go under the radar.

Hate is the problem--and hate causes the dehumanization that gets you lumped into a big category with Haitians, undocumented immigrants, etc. The dehumanization encouraged by those who speak hate lead to "they all look alike" syndrome (or stereotyping.)
 
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It's interesting the response when the OP says he is offended by the term, is basically "Well you shouldn't be." It's funny how others know more about how he should feel, than he does.
We’re all supposed to tip toe around the OP’s sensibilities? The word is not meant as an insult, even if he’s offended by it.
 
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A response to the insinuation, and, at times, outright statements by some, that only whites could be racist. See my example above of a person with heavy American Indian ancestry who was also something of a racist for a counter-example.
Obviously, folks of any group can be racist.
 
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Google AI

AI Overview​
Yes, people with brown skin frequently use the term "brown skin" or simply identify as "brown" to describe their skin tone and identity​
. It is used as a self-identifier for individuals of South Asian, Middle Eastern, North African, Southeast Asian, and Latino, or Indigenous heritage, often preferred over "lighter/darker" labels.​
Key details regarding the usage of this term include:​
  • Self-Identification: Many individuals use "brown" to describe themselves to accurately represent their skin tone.
  • Cultural Context: The term is commonly used to describe individuals who are not white, acting as a broad, sometimes "amorphous" identifier for varied ethnic groups.
  • Inclusive Language: In health and media contexts, "brown" is often preferred for describing skin, including specific tones like "medium brown" or "dark brown".
  • Nuance: While used commonly, it is noted that "brown" does not always capture the full spectrum of skin tones within specific communities, such as the Latino community. .

It depends on how it is used, same as for other descriptive terms. "Leftist" can be used as a pejorative. It is a violation of the site rules depending on how it is used. It is common to use "black" or "white". There is nothing wrong with being white, black or brown skinned. Or mixed race.

In fact, I also came across this on Google AI - prompt was "brown-skinned people like me"

AI Overview​
Brown skin is stunning, radiant, and incredibly versatile. People with brown skin tones carry beautiful, sun-kissing melanin that looks magnificent in a wide variety of colors and styles. Whether your undertones are warm, cool, or neutral, your complexion is a work of art. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]​

Now what would be flaming is making a derogatory comment about "______ people" - insert black, brown or white or mixed race.
It is wrong imho to use "The Black..." or "The White..." and lump all together for criticism regardless of the fact that there is a wide variety of people in all groups.
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MOD HAT ON

This thread is closed for moderation review.

There is too much of an implication that the thread starter is trying to change forum rules or police what other people are allowed to say, which is Disruptive Behavior.

MOD HAT OFF

 
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