I apologize if I have offended anyone, but I do strongly believe that ICE policy is purposely racist.

mark46 · May 14, 2026

I do believe that ICE policie are racist. I do not believe that folks of different races are being treated in the same way. But it is redistricting that is the topic of the day.

I do NOT believe that one's race determines his politics or should.

I do not believe that Hispanics (or blacks or whites) all vote the same or should. Democrats lost many elections in 2024 by making such a silly assumption.

As I said, I don't believe that ICE officers treat folks of different races the same. From my experience living across the country and being part of the politics changes from as far back as the 60's, I know that law enforcement often discriminates based on race. Most officers do not.

I now live in SC where the map will change either this year or next. The attempt will be to follow the new rules and make districts as favorable to Republicans as possible. And yes, this will likely mean that our one black rep will be gone; he likely will retire. However, SC politics being what they are, we will likely have a Republican black member in one or two of the districts. Instead of one district being very responsive to blacks, 3 will now need to struggle to meet the needs of minority votes. We have a black senator. We have had an Indian governor. Both ran for president. When there was a horrible racist shooting in a black church a few years ago, there were no riots, not even much demonstrating. We came together and prayed together. Of course, we have racists among us, but they are not our leaders and the actions of our leaders are not racist. They may be very misguided, but that is another matter.

Say it aint so · May 14, 2026

mark46 said:
I do believe that ICE policie are racist. I do not believe that folks of different races are being treated in the same way. But it is redistricting that is the topic of the day.

I do NOT believe that one's race determines his politics or should.

I do not believe that Hispanics (or blacks or whites) all vote the same or should. Democrats lost many elections in 2024 by making such a silly assumption.

As I said, I don't believe that ICE officers treat folks of different races the same. From my experience living across the country and being part of the politics changes from as far back as the 60's, I know that law enforcement often discriminates based on race. Most officers do not.

I now live in SC where the map will change either this year or next. The attempt will be to follow the new rules and make districts as favorable to Republicans as possible. And yes, this will likely mean that our one black rep will be gone; he likely will retire. However, SC politics being what they are, we will likely have a Republican black member in one or two of the districts. Instead of one district being very responsive to blacks, 3 will now need to struggle to meet the needs of minority votes. We have a black senator. We have had an Indian governor. Both ran for president. When there was a horrible racist shooting in a black church a few years ago, there were no riots, not even much demonstrating. We came together and prayed together. Of course, we have racists among us, but they are not our leaders and the actions of our leaders are not racist. They may be very misguided, but that is another matter.

Kavanah Stops aka racial profiling.

Kavanaugh Stop (sometimes Kavanaugh stop) refers to an immigration stop or detainment by an ICE or Border Patrol agent of a person based on that person's perceived racial or ethnic characteristics or behavior, such as how they look, the language they speak, or where they work.

Laodicean60 · May 14, 2026

mark46 said:
As I said, I don't believe that ICE officers treat folks of different races the same. From my experience living across the country and being part of the politics changes from as far back as the 60's, I know that law enforcement often discriminates based on race. Most officers do not.

Correct most are not. Unfortunately the ICE agents has to deal with a multiple of different nationalities. But in law enforcement I identifying race is common. First thing cops want to know is how tall and what race. (male or female but that may not be the case in today's lunacy)

Who is treated worse and who is second?

Pommer · May 14, 2026

Laodicean60 said:
Correct most are not. Unfortunately the ICE agents has to deal with a multiple of different nationalities. But in law enforcement I identifying race is common. First thing cops want to know is how tall and what race. (male or female but that may not be the case in today's lunacy)

Who is treated worse and who is second?

“Unfortunately”?

Always in His Presence · May 14, 2026

The very moment 10,000,000 Scandinavians cross the boarder illegally - ICE will be stopping blond haired blue eyed people.

That's just my opinion.

As for districting - I believe party, not race should be a determining factor.

Tropical Wilds · May 14, 2026

Pommer said:
“Unfortunately”?

I’m glad I’m not the only one who clocked that.

Laodicean60 · May 14, 2026

Pommer said:
“Unfortunately”?

Yes unfortunately, if everyone came in legally we wouldn't need ICE agents to whine about.

Pommer · May 15, 2026

Laodicean60 said:
Yes unfortunately, if everyone came in legally we wouldn't need ICE agents to whine about.

Even if immigrants did wait their turn and follow the strange, arbitrary and draconian rules that can mystify even immigration attorneys…there would still be the need for ICE agents.

But I get and partially agree with your point.
Let’s have Congress do comprehensive immigration reform, so that the system gets streamlined and rather than thwart good, honest people at every turn, help and encourage them to “do it the right way”.

Laodicean60 · May 15, 2026

Pommer said:
Even if immigrants did wait their turn and follow the strange, arbitrary and draconian rules that can mystify even immigration attorneys…there would still be the need for ICE agents.

But I get and partially agree with your point.
Let’s have Congress do comprehensive immigration reform, so that the system gets streamlined and rather than thwart good, honest people at every turn, help and encourage them to “do it the right way”.

It'll take you and I and millions others to demand new immigration laws from Congress because so far all those human trafficked are political footballs. Maybe the millinials will see one in their lifetime I'm beginning to lose hope.

Laodicean60 · May 15, 2026

Tropical Wilds said:
I’m glad I’m not the only one who clocked that.

Clocked what something from a delusion?

Tropical Wilds · May 15, 2026

Laodicean60 said:
Clocked what something from a delusion?

I mean, if you're having a delusion then it would explain your Freudian slip but, I'm sorry, I'm not sure that excuses what you said.

Unfortunately.

Fantine · May 15, 2026

Always in His Presence said:
The very moment 10,000,000 Scandinavians cross the boarder illegally - ICE will be stopping blond haired blue eyed people.

That's just my opinion.

As for districting - I believe party, not race should be a determining factor.

You forget that Afrikaaner refugees suffering since the end of apartheid robbed them of privilege are being welcomed with open arms.

Always in His Presence · May 15, 2026

Fantine said:
You forget that Afrikaaner refugees suffering since the end of apartheid robbed them of privilege are being welcomed with open arms.

How many have come in illegally?

Say it aint so · May 15, 2026

Always in His Presence said:
How many have come in illegally?

They are preferred, even it means making up a lie as why they should come here legally. Their only criteria? They are white.
Every city has their enclave of ethnic bastions including those from Europe.
ICE is not hanging out there stopping people if they don't speak English.

Always in His Presence · May 15, 2026

Say it aint so said:
They are preferred,

That means they came in legally - like my parents who were not white.

Say it aint so · May 15, 2026

Always in His Presence said:
That means they came in legally - like my parents who were not white.

Which means they are white which Trump prefers. And again, they are so white Trump is willing to lie about the legal justification.
Thousands of white expats head back to SA despite Trump’s ‘persecution’ claims
And the mean time brown people from countries where REAL persecution is taking place have their status removed by Trump.
So as they use to say back in the day, for Trump, "that's mighty white of you"

Hans Blaster · May 15, 2026

Always in His Presence said:
The very moment 10,000,000 Scandinavians cross the boarder illegally - ICE will be stopping blond haired blue eyed people.

This is what Iowa and Illinois fear more than anything else.

Always in His Presence said:
That's just my opinion.

As for districting - I believe party, not race should be a determining factor.

Always in His Presence · May 15, 2026

Say it aint so said:
Which means they are white which Trump prefers. And again, they are so white Trump is willing to lie about the legal justification.
Thousands of white expats head back to SA despite Trump’s ‘persecution’ claims

So it is a non issue if they are not staying, but it is a chance to accuse our President of racism - is that correct?

Say it aint so said:
And the mean time brown people from countries where REAL persecution is taking place have their status removed by Trump.

As a fellow 'brown person' - we are really getting tired of being trotted out as your victims. I'd say more, but it would not end well for me.

Say it aint so said:
So as they use to say back in the day, for Trump, "that's mighty white of you"

Really - where? link where the President ever said that.

Say it aint so · May 15, 2026

Always in His Presence said:
So it is a non issue if they are not staying, but it is a chance to accuse our President of racism - is that correct?

As a fellow 'brown person' - we are really getting tired of being trotted out as your victims. I'd say more, but it would not end well for me.

Really - where? link where the President ever said that.

Accuse? I let his actions speak for himself.
And yes, brown people seeking asylum are being kicked out by Trump and whites welcomed, despite you yourself being brown.
It is not coincidence the man who tells his project manager to hide black sub contractor workers has a racial preference.

Fantine · May 15, 2026

Always in His Presence said:
How many have come in illegally?

The point is that they had lost their white privilege.
Their distress is nowhere near comparable to the legally admitted refugees from Haiti, who became the source of a vicious disinformation campaign while Trump was running for president.
Legally admitted refugees are being deported in large numbers because of their ethnic backgrounds, while white South Africans with minor problems are courted.

I apologize if I have offended anyone, but I do strongly believe that ICE policy is purposely racist.

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