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War Secretary Hegseth orders rare, urgent meeting of hundreds of generals, admirals Sep 30 in Virginia
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The military can do both, when the police don't do their job.
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Yet, they do. Some people just ignore that.
I already have some inkling of what kind of arguement will be thrown at that, but let's see, I could be wrong.
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They've seen your work with the .50 cal. JK.
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Police in certain American cities do an extra fine job against conservatives, but not against Antifa or BLM types. But I also include the court system which gives slaps on the wrists, if anything.
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Along this line:
Who is Jon Harrison? Top navy official ousted by Hegseth
The Pentagon confirmed to Newsweek that Jon Harrison was removed as Navy chief of staff.
www.newsweek.com
Civilian leadership, but still.
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I've been wondering for days why Pete Hegseth's 'speech' sounded like a high school gym teacher 'dumbing it down' for junior high students? I think I've found it.
As a former soldier I only had 4 years in the Australian Army Survey Corp making maps, and was never posted overseas in active engagement with the enemy! (Yes - and then I went on to study welfare and ended up in Child Protection - just in case anyone wanted to challenge my having a military background as well. I'm a 'career-carnie' and have moved sideways, across the lower rungs of many ladders, instead of up one ladder.)
However, Lt. Gen. Ben Hodges provided feedback helped clarify it for me. And it's fairly basic:-
CIVILIZED OR NOT?
America needs to have allies and friends confident that they are one of us, one of those freedom loving nations that follow international law in the conventions of warfare. It's not "politically correct" or "woke" to follow the Geneva Convention! It's not some grand leftist conspiracy to make the American military less effective to try and limit the horror of war - especially as modern arms have become more precise and discriminating in targeting enemy combatants rather than just carpet bombing an enemy city - military and civilians alike. It's what separates us from the way the Russians are indiscriminately attacking civilian apartments and infrastructure in Ukraine.
MAXIMUM LETHALITY OR MAXIMUM MISSION BRIEF?
'Maximum lethality' only works in certain very specific missions.
Some combat situations DO require 'maximum lethality' - and the Obama administration used that when necessary! EG: Taking out Bin Laden. So what's this "woke" nonsense?
PEACE-KEEPING
But in a post-war peace-keeping capacity, in "Jus Post Bellum" AFTER the combat - you do NOT want trigger happy soldiers to randomly mow down any crowd of upset civilians! Because in the chaos of a post-war situation, there just is going to to be many instances where unhappy crowds are shouting and jostling around supply trucks, or protesting the many issues that arise when rebuilding both the infrastructure of buildings and government processes from scratch.
PROPAGANDA - AND THAT AWKWARD MIKE-DROP MOMENT
It's the same old MAGA playbook. Manufacture a perceived crisis - and then come in - flapping gums blazing - acting like the White Hat Sheriff promising to save the day. It's a showdown at High Noon with "woke leftists". Except - Hegseth's gym class is aimed at the world's most elite generals and admirals. His last line was delivered like a "mike drop" moment - yet was met with stony silence at the end.
Is ANYONE in this administration REMOTELY qualified to do their job!?
As a former soldier I only had 4 years in the Australian Army Survey Corp making maps, and was never posted overseas in active engagement with the enemy! (Yes - and then I went on to study welfare and ended up in Child Protection - just in case anyone wanted to challenge my having a military background as well. I'm a 'career-carnie' and have moved sideways, across the lower rungs of many ladders, instead of up one ladder.)
However, Lt. Gen. Ben Hodges provided feedback helped clarify it for me. And it's fairly basic:-
CIVILIZED OR NOT?
America needs to have allies and friends confident that they are one of us, one of those freedom loving nations that follow international law in the conventions of warfare. It's not "politically correct" or "woke" to follow the Geneva Convention! It's not some grand leftist conspiracy to make the American military less effective to try and limit the horror of war - especially as modern arms have become more precise and discriminating in targeting enemy combatants rather than just carpet bombing an enemy city - military and civilians alike. It's what separates us from the way the Russians are indiscriminately attacking civilian apartments and infrastructure in Ukraine.
MAXIMUM LETHALITY OR MAXIMUM MISSION BRIEF?
'Maximum lethality' only works in certain very specific missions.
Some combat situations DO require 'maximum lethality' - and the Obama administration used that when necessary! EG: Taking out Bin Laden. So what's this "woke" nonsense?
PEACE-KEEPING
But in a post-war peace-keeping capacity, in "Jus Post Bellum" AFTER the combat - you do NOT want trigger happy soldiers to randomly mow down any crowd of upset civilians! Because in the chaos of a post-war situation, there just is going to to be many instances where unhappy crowds are shouting and jostling around supply trucks, or protesting the many issues that arise when rebuilding both the infrastructure of buildings and government processes from scratch.
PROPAGANDA - AND THAT AWKWARD MIKE-DROP MOMENT
It's the same old MAGA playbook. Manufacture a perceived crisis - and then come in - flapping gums blazing - acting like the White Hat Sheriff promising to save the day. It's a showdown at High Noon with "woke leftists". Except - Hegseth's gym class is aimed at the world's most elite generals and admirals. His last line was delivered like a "mike drop" moment - yet was met with stony silence at the end.
Is ANYONE in this administration REMOTELY qualified to do their job!?
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All Marines required to follow grooming standards within 12 months or face separation
The U.S. Marine Corps announced that established uniform and grooming standards must be met within 12 months, regardless of medical conditions
The release mentions this update includes those who experience Pseudofolliculitis Barbae, commonly known as razor bumps and mainly affects those with tightly curled hair, like Black men.
Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth has consistently sought a clean-shaven force, calling for “no beardos”, pushing for a review of military fitness and grooming standards and tightening the guidelines for those who request exemptions.
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I am of two minds about this.
Almost all shaving systems are specifically designed to cut the hairs just below the skin to give a close and long-lasting shave. If a man has course and curly hairs, however, the regrowing hairs begin to curl before erupting from the surface. The hair grows and curls continuously below the surface, forming painful and often infected sores, leaving permanent scarring. There is only one solution: Never cut the hair below the skin surface. This isn't just about black men, though. I knew a Greek guy and an Italian guy who both had the condition.
Hegseth's standards are exactly the same I dealt with during my career. I had always had severe Pseudofolliculitis Barbae. Being an Army brat, I'd always known black barbers who were experts in giving soldiers close shaves without causing the ingrown hairs. It was a technique of gliding the straight razor just barely above the surface of the skin instead of cutting the hairs below the surface of the skin.
Medical shaving waivers in my time permitted hairs no longer than 1/4 inch with no edging or shaping. The waiver was good for 30 days--long enough for the previous shaving attempt to have healed. Then, under the guidance of a military dermatologist, I'd have to try a different technique. This went on month after month until an effective method was found.
The only thing I found worked was a razor integrating the one solution I already knew: It was a razor called "Bump Fighter," which had a very thin metal guard wrapped around the blade. The guard raised the blade a fraction of a millimeter above the surface of the skin, so the hairs were not cut below the skin. Essentially, the same thing the old-school black barbers knew how to do by technique. I hoarded a lifetime supply of Bump Fighter razors that I still draw from. Unfortunately, the company is out of business.
During the 80s, Remington sold an electric "Black Man's Shaver" that did the same thing. As far as I've found today, there's only one such razor available: The Gillette Skinguard Razor, which also has a guard wrapped around the blade.
Since my time, things indeed had become incredibly loose--beyond my own belief. It really started the avalanche when the services permitted "religious" beards around 2001. First it was for Sikhs, then Muslims, then "Nordic religions" (amazing how many white guys suddenly belived in Odin). At the same time, the strict 1/4-inch requirement for men with shaving waivers seemed to turn into a 1/2-inch limitation with fancy edging allowed.
In my old-school mind, Hegseth's rules are not unconscionable because I lived with them and thrived. It seems, though, that nobody is turning the young guys on to the Gillette Skinguard Razor. It's lost knowledge.
OTOH, there is no real reason today not to allow beards freely.
Back in my day, back in the 60s and 70s, respectable American men did not wear beards. Only hippies and Commies wore beards. Beards were a "fad," and the military did not do fads. That was all well and good back then, and I respected it.
Today, however, more than half of adult men wear beards. Even the vice-president wears a beard. I'm wearing a beard right now. Beards are no longer fads. Beards are today's male standard.
There is a myth--and I call it a myth deliberately, because I never saw it actually published in any official military document--that beards foul up proper sealing of gas masks. But the Navy permitted beards back in the 70s, and sailors live by the masks in the fire-fighting kits in every ship compartment. Many other militaries wear beards. And if there was a true mask problem, that's easily solved: "When we issue you a mask, shave your beard." I had to wear a mask exactly once in 26 years (that was pretty miserable, too, in "MOPP-4" gear during a South Korean summer).
So, speaking in modern times: Permit beards. Regulate the length and style, but let the troops wear them.
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