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The United States has crossed a grim threshold: The national debt now exceeds the size of the entire American economy. As of March 31, debt held by the public stood at $31.27 trillion, while nominal GDP over the prior 12-month period was an estimated $31.22 trillion—pushing the debt-to-GDP ratio to 100.2%, according to a press release issued Thursday by the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget (CRFB), based on new data from the Bureau of Economic Analysis.

...The 100% milestone puts the U.S. on a collision course with its all-time high: the 106% debt-to-GDP ratio reached in 1946, in the immediate aftermath of World War II. The difference, MacGuineas argued, is stark. That peak was the result of financing the largest military mobilization in American history. Today’s debt, she said, “isn’t borne from a seismic global conflict, but rather a total bipartisan abdication of making hard choices.”

The Congressional Budget Office warned in February that, under current trajectories, debt held by the public will rise to 108% of GDP by 2030—surpassing the postwar record—and balloon to 120% by 2036. One independent macro model places gross federal debt—a broader measure—even higher, at nearly 126% of GDP by year’s end.
Maybe we can't afford the Iran war and the ballroom.
 

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"The United States has crossed a grim threshold: The national debt now exceeds the size of the entire American economy."​
This used to be a red hot concern of conservatives.

Now they just get in line with whatever R party written budget the pres signs. Just one way I dont consider the "gop" conservative anymore.
 
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This used to be a red hot concern of conservatives.

Now they just get in line with whatever R party written budget the pres signs. Just one way I dont consider the "gop" conservative anymore.
don't worry, they will become deficit hawks again once trump is booted from office and a Democrat is in the White House again.
 
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IMO, the Democrats should block the proposed 1.5 Trillion dollar defense bill until Trump has ended the Iran war and withdrawn our forces from the region. And then only pass it with identified funding (i.e. tax increases). It's time for America to pay for her wars (and defense) in real time....
 
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IMO, the Democrats should block the proposed 1.5 Trillion dollar defense bill until Trump has ended the Iran war and withdrawn our forces from the region. And then only pass it with identified funding (i.e. tax increases). It's time for America to pay for her wars (and defense) in real time....
We had a good run.
 
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The United States has crossed a grim threshold: The national debt now exceeds the size of the entire American economy. As of March 31, debt held by the public stood at $31.27 trillion, while nominal GDP over the prior 12-month period was an estimated $31.22 trillion—pushing the debt-to-GDP ratio to 100.2%, according to a press release issued Thursday by the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget (CRFB), based on new data from the Bureau of Economic Analysis.​
...The 100% milestone puts the U.S. on a collision course with its all-time high: the 106% debt-to-GDP ratio reached in 1946, in the immediate aftermath of World War II. The difference, MacGuineas argued, is stark. That peak was the result of financing the largest military mobilization in American history. Today’s debt, she said, “isn’t borne from a seismic global conflict, but rather a total bipartisan abdication of making hard choices.”​
The Congressional Budget Office warned in February that, under current trajectories, debt held by the public will rise to 108% of GDP by 2030—surpassing the postwar record—and balloon to 120% by 2036. One independent macro model places gross federal debt—a broader measure—even higher, at nearly 126% of GDP by year’s end.​
Maybe we can't afford the Iran war and the ballroom.
More good news with it's aging population Japan is busy selling of the 1 trillion plus of US bonds they hold.
 
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Is this what they meant when they said America would be great again?
Honestly I think that was all about "woke" this and that, which in the big picture is a lot of fluff good for cheap outrage.

I dont think they really cared to grapple with the truly consequential national level problems. I mean, they hold all 3 branches of govt yet here we are with:

a. more new war.
b. rampant personal financial insecurity.
c. national debt still out of control.
 
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The United States has crossed a grim threshold: The national debt now exceeds the size of the entire American economy. As of March 31, debt held by the public stood at $31.27 trillion, while nominal GDP over the prior 12-month period was an estimated $31.22 trillion—pushing the debt-to-GDP ratio to 100.2%, according to a press release issued Thursday by the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget (CRFB), based on new data from the Bureau of Economic Analysis.​
...The 100% milestone puts the U.S. on a collision course with its all-time high: the 106% debt-to-GDP ratio reached in 1946, in the immediate aftermath of World War II. The difference, MacGuineas argued, is stark. That peak was the result of financing the largest military mobilization in American history. Today’s debt, she said, “isn’t borne from a seismic global conflict, but rather a total bipartisan abdication of making hard choices.”​
The Congressional Budget Office warned in February that, under current trajectories, debt held by the public will rise to 108% of GDP by 2030—surpassing the postwar record—and balloon to 120% by 2036. One independent macro model places gross federal debt—a broader measure—even higher, at nearly 126% of GDP by year’s end.​
Maybe we can't afford the Iran war and the ballroom.
And....we are only in year two. By now everyone should know that this administration with its deep roots in the Heritage Foundation, is turning our country into a Theocratic Autocracy. Christian Nationalism is bounced around however, the true evil is in the latter movement. Between an Opus Dei practitioner and a Word of Faith leader they have elevated a man to be ( king) , using him to do their bidding and likewise he uses them to rake in fortunes. Maybe this is the fall of the USA. Huh.

Yikes! Im starting to sound like a conspiracy freak. Oh well. Im in the mood.

Be blessed.
 
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IMO, the Democrats should block the proposed 1.5 Trillion dollar defense bill until Trump has ended the Iran war and withdrawn our forces from the region. And then only pass it with identified funding (i.e. tax increases). It's time for America to pay for her wars (and defense) in real time....
I'm sure they will if they think it will give Iran an edge.
 

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The United States has crossed a grim threshold: The national debt now exceeds the size of the entire American economy. As of March 31, debt held by the public stood at $31.27 trillion, while nominal GDP over the prior 12-month period was an estimated $31.22 trillion—pushing the debt-to-GDP ratio to 100.2%, according to a press release issued Thursday by the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget (CRFB), based on new data from the Bureau of Economic Analysis.​
...The 100% milestone puts the U.S. on a collision course with its all-time high: the 106% debt-to-GDP ratio reached in 1946, in the immediate aftermath of World War II. The difference, MacGuineas argued, is stark. That peak was the result of financing the largest military mobilization in American history. Today’s debt, she said, “isn’t borne from a seismic global conflict, but rather a total bipartisan abdication of making hard choices.”​
The Congressional Budget Office warned in February that, under current trajectories, debt held by the public will rise to 108% of GDP by 2030—surpassing the postwar record—and balloon to 120% by 2036. One independent macro model places gross federal debt—a broader measure—even higher, at nearly 126% of GDP by year’s end.​
Maybe we can't afford the Iran war and the ballroom.
Problem is that we were already on this path:

12-Month Deficit Totals $1.7 Trillion, Debt Approaches 100% of GDP | Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget

It would be good to see what it's been running this year, but my Google-fu has failed. If anyone can find a link to a 2026 chart, particularly with prior months included, it would be appreciated.
 
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Irresponsible tax cuts are often far more responsible for our national debt increases than spending is.

That is why Republicans have usually run much higher deficits than Democrats.
 
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More good news with it's aging population Japan is busy selling of the 1 trillion plus of US bonds they hold.
I’ll have to think that this was meant to be taken ironically. Japan selling US bonds is extraordinarily bad.
Like “Great Depression” bad.
 
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If you're done having fun, it's like Turr said, we've been on this path. The reason we are nearing a debt crisis is that we don't police our own party, and what should matter to everyone is just political blame. Media feeds the ignorant. Years ago, hearing those lying Republicans talk about debt made sense to me, since back then, my debt-to-income ratio was near 100%. During the COVID crash, I learned about the severity of government debt, and since I have kids, I worry.
Maybe we can't afford the Iran war and the ballroom.
The ballroom is privately funded, isn't it? I am curious why you think a nuclear Iran would be good for global society?
 

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If you're done having fun, it's like Turr said, we've been on this path. The reason we are nearing a debt crisis is that we don't police our own party, and what should matter to everyone is just political blame. Media feeds the ignorant. Years ago, hearing those lying Republicans talk about debt made sense to me, since back then, my debt-to-income ratio was near 100%. During the COVID crash, I learned about the severity of government debt, and since I have kids, I worry.
We've been on the path and now we have reached the summit. It goes down from here. It makes good economic sense to borrow during recessions and to pay off the debt during boom times. We've forgotten to do the second part.
The ballroom is privately funded, isn't it?
We don't really know. Supposedly, the plutocrats with government business, present and pending, donated various amounts. How much from whom? Who knows! Are the funds actual or merely promised? If actual, where are they being held?

In other news, Lindsey Graham put forth a proposal to have us taxpayers foot the total bill.

I am curious why you think a nuclear Iran would be good for global society?
That's begging the question. However, the multinational no-nuke deal that Donald scuttled allowed Iran to have nuclear power plants, but not the kind of enriched uranium that can be used for bombs.

Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons. According to Donald, we destroyed Iran's capability to make them last year, so what is this war really about? It seems that Donald and his hollowed out military command miscalculated starting this kind of war.
 
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The ballroom is privately funded, isn't it? I am curious why you think a nuclear Iran would be good for global society?
Congress has approved funding. You'll be paying for Trumps vanity project.

As regards Iran's nuclear capability, there was a deal that they had to 'reduce their stockpile of uranium by 98%, and will keep its level of uranium enrichment at 3.67% — significantly below the enrichment level needed to create a bomb.' (from here: Iran Deal).

Plus: 'International inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) will not only be continuously monitoring every element of Iran’s declared nuclear program, but they will also be verifying that no fissile material is covertly carted off to a secret location to build a bomb.'

Iran was complying. Then Trump ripped up the deal, effectively giving Iran carte blanche to do what they liked. So do you not understand what has happened? They had no nuclear armament capabilities. The only person who thought the deal was a bad one was Trump. And that was because Obama and his administration had organised it.

Now you are paying the price.
 
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Congress has approved funding. You'll be paying for Trumps vanity project.

As regards Iran's nuclear capability, there was a deal that they had to 'reduce their stockpile of uranium by 98%, and will keep its level of uranium enrichment at 3.67% — significantly below the enrichment level needed to create a bomb.' (from here: Iran Deal).

Plus: 'International inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) will not only be continuously monitoring every element of Iran’s declared nuclear program, but they will also be verifying that no fissile material is covertly carted off to a secret location to build a bomb.'

Iran was complying. Then Trump ripped up the deal, effectively giving Iran carte blanche to do what they liked. So do you not understand what has happened? They had no nuclear armament capabilities. The only person who thought the deal was a bad one was Trump. And that was because Obama and his administration had organised it.

Now you are paying the price.
And his supporters still won't care. Watch. It was never about it being privately funded. It was never even about a ballroom. It's only ever been about loyalty and towing the party line where "The Party" consists of a single individual (some might say a king? other titles?). There's a name for that, but it can't be uttered on this forum as I understand.
 
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There's a name for that, but it can't be uttered on this forum as I understand.
The proper euphemism is "presidential/government overreach".
 
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