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It also talks about the elements melting with fervent heat, as does verse 12. So, they both clearly refer to the same event.
I can, and do deny your understanding of these scriptures. You cannot be taken seriously when you try to make 2 Peter 3:10 a different event from 2 Peter 3:11-12 when they so clearly are all about the same event.
It is plain, from many Prophesies, that the terrible Day of the Lords fiery wrath, is not the same as the glorious Day Jesus Returns, OR the passing away of the physical universe, after the Millennium.
They are two different events.
Careful reading of 2 Peter 3:7 & 10, shows they are Prophesying a different event to 2 Peter 3:12 & 13.
Shuffling the Sixth Seal to happen at the Return, is a demonstration of adding to and taking away of the Words of Revelation.
The seventh angel sounding his trumpet is not the trump of God in 1Thessalonians4:16-17.
Actually, it doesn't. The Greek text, ἐν φωνῇ ἀρχαγγέλου, says, as in the NKJV, "the voice of an archangel." There is no definite article before archangel.
Why can't you just debate the issue, while not making accusations and judgments?
This is meaningless and is completely beside the point I was making.
No, it can't. Jesus is not an archangel.
Don't worry about it. I can call people out for twisting scripture if I want. If you don't care if people do that, so be it. I do.
But He can speak with a voice of/like an archangel, just as He can speak with a voice like a trumpet:
Why would Jesus not use His own voice? Why would He decide to change His voice? And if He did change His voice, why would it not be to the voice of one of the Elders mentioned in Revelation or the voice of John the Baptist or some other voice.
It doesn't say that He has a voice like an archangel. It refers to the voice of an archangel, not a voice like an archangel. Why are you changing scripture? You are doing the same kind of thing that Douggg does and that's why I talk to him the way I do. It's unacceptable to twist scripture to make it say what you want it to say.
Paul does not say "a voice by an archangel." Why do you?
And you are so sure about this "implied" understanding of the Greek text that you believe Spiritual Jew was justified in accusing a fellow believer in Christ of "just making things up from your imagination," and "twisting scripture"? Because that was my original objection to his posts: not the possibly incorrect interpretation of a verse,, but the personal accusatory unchristian attack on a fellow believer.
Who said that? I didn't. It says "the voice of an archangel". That means it's referring to the voice of an archangel. Jesus does not have the voice of an archangel, He has the voice of a man (or the voice of God if He speaks as God). You try to change it to say a voice like an archangel.
Nowhere does it say anything about a voice like an archangel or like a trumpet in 1 Thessalonians 4:16.
Why would He sound like an archangel? He is God and man, so He would either sound like God (whatever that might sound like) or like a man.
It's not UnChristian to rebuke fellow believers for twisting scripture like you do by trying to change the text from saying the voice of an archangel to a voice like an archangel. You should know better than to do that.
Says you. But that is only your rationalized opinion. Neither the verse, nor any other scripture, says that.
I have seen how Spiritual Jew treats other people on here. It is common. So, I am not defending how he speaks. I think this is just part of his personality.
