Ilhan Omar-Linked Winery Dissolves Days After Amended Financial Disclosure

Tuur · Apr 24, 2026

Foamhead said:
I don't care. We dont accuse people of fraud or dishonesty without evidence. Whether or not we like the individual, their politics or career is immaterial.

Unless it comes to Trump? That's the way it seems to work. Now Omar got caught in something and it's amazing how those who went after Trump have circled the wagons. Amazing, but not unexpected.

ThatRobGuy · Apr 24, 2026

Foamhead said:
I don't care. We dont accuse people of fraud or dishonesty without evidence.

It seems as if there was some pretty solid evidence that this was a fishy operation.

I started off the thread actually trying to give Omar's husband the benefit of the doubt and pointing out the complexities of trying to run a vineyard and why it's more complex than a brewery or distillery.

Someone (who I normally have some spirited disagreements on here, @iluvatar5150 ) actually pointed out the fishiness that was involved with that whole operation -- which evidently involved buying a stockpile of wines from other sources, and then slapping their own label on it as sort of a novelty thing.

Then it morphed into a conversation about scotch, tequila, and mutual dislike of Radiohead lol, but none the less...

If it's true that they really weren't running a true winery, and rather, buying wines off of other places, and getting market valuation done as if it was their own product that they could make more of, that it sketchy.

Tuur · Apr 24, 2026

essentialsaltes said:
Absolutely. They will know when that year's vintage of grapes will never amount to anything (and might as well be marketed with minimal aging and sold as quickly as possible) and which years people will be talking about for decades and they may want to sock away cases in their own cellars to sell later.

Be that as it may, would think that someone would run the numbers to see if it would be possible to make money in less than ideal circumstances in any venture. Some businesses are higher stakes than others, but consider that while grape quality varies, grape juice seems to be consistent.

Note: I am not suggesting wine makers do what one DIY wine making instructions suggests: Add sugar and yeast to grape juice. But I think there is a strain of yeast sold to wine makers and that alone cuts out some bad things that can happen through natural fermentation (just ask someone who fails to make sourdough starter that way - someone like me). That should allow for some planning around the lowest quality expected and how to deal with it. Wouldn't it? Anything better adds to profits.

Foamhead · Apr 24, 2026

Tuur said:
Unless it comes to Trump? That's the way it seems to work. Now Omar got caught in something and it's amazing how those who went after Trump have circled the wagons. Amazing, but not unexpected.

Trump has been repeatedly found guilty in a court of law for this behavior, Omar had not.

NxNW · Apr 24, 2026

iluvatar5150 said:
side note: the best whiskey + coke I ever had was with Macallan and diet coke.

This is blasphemy. And I'm no Macallan fan.

iluvatar5150 said:
side side note: Johnny Walker of any kind, including blue, is also its own thing: garbage.

Never had Blue, but the Green Is ok.

Longrow 18, or Signatory Caol Ola 11 are outstanding.

iluvatar5150 · Apr 25, 2026

NxNW said:
This is blasphemy. And I'm no Macallan fan.

I said almost the same thing as the guy was pouring it, but then I tried it and was converted. I’m not a big fan of either Macallan or whiskey & coke, but that was pretty good.

Tuur · Apr 25, 2026

Foamhead said:
Trump has been repeatedly found guilty in a court of law for this behavior, Omar had not.

Sorry, but that fig leaf never covered much and it covers even less now. Either there is one standard or it's different when (D)emocrats do it.

Foamhead · Apr 25, 2026

Tuur said:
Sorry, but that fig leaf never covered much and it covers even less now. Either there is one standard or it's different when (D)emocrats do it.

Oh, okay, you dont require evidence of malfeasance. Gotcha.

NxNW · Apr 25, 2026

Tuur said:
Unless it comes to Trump? That's the way it seems to work. Now Omar got caught in something

She hasn't been caught at anything.

Tuur said:
and it's amazing how those who went after Trump have circled the wagons

Link?

NxNW · Apr 25, 2026

Tuur said:
Sorry, but that fig leaf never covered much and it covers even less now. Either there is one standard or it's different when (D)emocrats do it.

The standard is being convicted of a crime in a court of law.

What other standard are you imagining?

Tuur · Apr 26, 2026

Foamhead said:
Oh, okay, you dont require evidence of malfeasance. Gotcha.

Said evidence apparently being if a Republican or Democrats is the one accused. But this is CF and that's expected here.

Foamhead · Apr 27, 2026

Tuur said:
Said evidence apparently being if a Republican or Democrats is the one accused. But this is CF and that's expected here.

If only you could hear the sheer magnitude of the sound my rolling eyeballs are making.

RocksInMyHead · Apr 27, 2026

ThatRobGuy said:
If it's true that they really weren't running a true winery, and rather, buying wines off of other places, and getting market valuation done as if it was their own product that they could make more of, that it sketchy.

That sounds more or less like independent bottling from the whisk(e)y industry, which is an accepted and normal practice. Not sure if it's common in the wine industry too, but I don't see why it wouldn't be. The only thing that might be shady is if they were representing themselves as a vineyard.

Tuur · Apr 27, 2026

Foamhead said:
If only you could hear the sheer magnitude of the sound my rolling eyeballs are making.

Can’t say that I would care.

Tuur · Apr 27, 2026

RocksInMyHead said:
That sounds more or less like independent bottling from the whisk(e)y industry, which is an accepted and normal practice. Not sure if it's common in the wine industry too, but I don't see why it wouldn't be. The only thing that might be shady is if they were representing themselves as a vineyard.

Really, the only interesting thing is that $30 million error. No, that’s not quite right. The other interesting things are how apparently a Democrat that overvalues property is beyond reproach, and that they didn’t seem to run the numbers when they came up with their business plan. The latter is all too common in small business, but would have thought this would be on another level.

RocksInMyHead · Apr 27, 2026

Tuur said:
Really, the only interesting thing is that $30 million error.

It appears to be a $1-5 million "error".

As previously reported by The Dallas Express, Omar’s financial disclosures valued eStCru LLC, co-owned by Mynett and his business partner William Hailer, between $1,000,001 and $5,000,000 in 2024, up from between $15,001 and $50,000 in 2023.
[...]
In a February 5 letter to Mynett, Comer wrote that eStCru and Rose Lake Capital were disclosed as being worth as much as $30 million in 2024 after being listed at as much as $51,000 in 2023, a jump that he said raises “concerns that unknown individuals may be investing to gain influence with your wife.”

There are two businesses involved here combining to make up that $30 million number. Only one of them has closed, as far as I'm aware.

Tuur said:
No, that’s not quite right. The other interesting things are how apparently a Democrat that overvalues property is beyond reproach,

Did anyone say that?

Tuur said:
and that they didn’t seem to run the numbers when they came up with their business plan. The latter is all too common in small business, but would have thought this would be on another level.

Sometimes business plans fail, even when you do run the numbers.

iluvatar5150 · Apr 27, 2026

Tuur said:
Really, the only interesting thing is that $30 million error. No, that’s not quite right. The other interesting things are how apparently a Democrat that overvalues property is beyond reproach, and that they didn’t seem to run the numbers when they came up with their business plan. The latter is all too common in small business, but would have thought this would be on another level.

sigh

It's not a "$30 million error".

Have you ever read a congressional financial disclosure? Here's one of Omar's:

https://disclosures-clerk.house.gov/public_disc/financial-pdfs/2024/10068415.pdf

Asset values are not reported precisely. They're reported in very wide ranges (e.g. $1-5m, $5-25m). The $30m figure comes from assuming that an asset reported within those ranges is worth as much as the top end of the range, and that dropping to a lower bracket reperesents a huge drop in wealth. In reality, going from $5,000,001 to $4,999,999 is sufficient to trigger a shift in brackets.

Everybody reporting on this as a $30 million swing is some combination of stupid, lazy, and/or dishonest.

Tuur · Apr 27, 2026

iluvatar5150 said:
Everybody reporting on this as a $30 million swing is some combination of stupid, lazy, and/or dishonest.

Nice way to deflect criticism of a Democrat.

RocksInMyHead · Apr 27, 2026

Tuur said:
Nice way to deflect criticism of a Democrat.

It is not clear what - if anything - there is to criticize her on. A business that her husband was part owner of failed. That's all we know.

iluvatar5150 · Apr 27, 2026

Tuur said:
Nice way to deflect criticism of a Democrat.

Nice way to repeat a claim that doesn't stand up to scrutiny under grade school levels of math or reading comprehension.

You guys would get a lot more traction with your criticisms of Democrats if you put a little bit of effort into them.

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