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Firing Sqads?
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Some countries do.
In America there are now five States that allow execution by firing squad.
Idaho, in 2025 made FS the primary method.South Carolina, Mississippi,Oklahoma, Utah.
Until Capital Punishment was declared Unconstitutional in Delaware , an inmate was put to death by hanging. Or,lethal injection.
I don't agree with the DP as proper justice for the fact, there is always the chance someone wrongly convicted can also be wrongly executed, murdered , by State sanction.
Also, I believe current standard methods of execution are able to be defined as cruel and unusual punishment. Which is in violation of our U.S Constitution. (Despite SCOTUS declaring otherwise)
If a death sentence is to be carried out, firing squad is not cruel and unusual. Death is instantaneous.
Whereas the gas chamber or lethal injection are so.
Guillotine isn't likely to catch on here.
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I find there to be a difference between murder and killing.
The Command of God is,thou shall not murder. Not,thou shalt not kill.
In the Old Testament one found guilty of murder was met with the just punishment of death.
In the New Testament we're taught forgiveness is just. While eye for an eye is not.
However,we are also taught in the New Testament if a murderer dies unrepentant, they're condemned to Hell for eternity.
That's an eternal form of punishment for a capital crime. Man's execution methods pale in comparison.
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I'd assume that they were mentally unsound in some way. In which case they could hardly be held responsible.
Let's say that it was a mental illness that caused it and we couldn't cure it. Then society would need to be protected from that person. Indefinately.
But let's say we could cure it. What then?
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Sometimes, sometimes not. Remember Cain was not to be harmed.
That's Old Testament, mostly. I don't recall Jesus saying to kill anyone but he has said not to on occasion. When he told Peter to put away his sword, he did not follow by saying to use stones instead, iic.
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Which does not refute what I said.
As I said, nobody's having elective late term abortions. Some do have late term abortions when there are serious complications or questions of viability.
Because there are more than three edge cases.
Wapo is a right-wing paper. Note their changing coverage of the gerrymandering issue.
That doesn't address my point.
Again, irrelevant.
Because some late term pregnancies develop complications, and some states fail to properly address that, as we're seeing these days.
I'm not aware of any such position on the left.
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Because when I read that death by firing squad involves "blowing of chunks" of the one executed, I get the impression that we've become so insulated as a culture that we have no sense both of methods of execution and what is truly barbaric. The human mind has devised all sorts of execution methods that are truly horrific.
As an example, I cited documented methods of execution, and these you called torture. Yet torture, when not done by a sick mind, has the intent to force the one tortured to do something. The point of execution is to kill, and of particularly gruesome methods to kill in such a way as to be a deterrence. And make no mistake: there have been some very gruesome ways to end someone's life in an official execution.
When Nero burned some Christians alive as human torches, his intent was not to make them talk, but to make them dead and to dissuade others from becoming Christians.
If the argument is that death by firing squad is "barbarous," it is helpful to first know what "barbarous" is before concluding if that argument is valid or not.
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That has an long and checkered history far older than the United States. Apparently the details are too graphic for some, but dropping them enough to purposely break their necks only came about in the last couple of hundred years or so.
If there is an American method of execution, it has to be the electric chair. That method has a number of gruesome incidents where things didn't turn out quite as planned.
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From a Judeo-Christian standpoint, the death penalty for murder is incorporated in the Mosaic Law. For a cold equations secular point of view, there is the aspect of removing such tendencies from the gene pool.
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Traditionally, only one rifle in the firing squad is loaded with a live round, with blanks in the others. That's so the ones tasked to do the deed will not know if they were the ones to actually kill the condemned.
There was a case of execution by firing squad in the American West where they couldn't find anyone willing to serve on the squad tasked to execute a convicted murderer. They ended up building a device that aimed a single shot at his heart and fired more or less automatically.
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Now, that glosses over something worth examining. Beheadings had fallen out of favor in Britain by 1776, so don't seem to have been a part of US executions. Wouldn't be surprised if the connection with the French Terror further "tainted" the idea of beheadings as a means of execution in the US.
This gets into what some have said was one reason the gas chamber didn't catch on in the US, courtesy of what happened during the Holocaust.
For perhaps a clearer example, consider the difference between a firing squad and having the condemned kneel in front of a trench while someone shoots him in the back of the head. That's quick and arguably not barbaric, but the use of that particular execution method is associated with various unsavory groups. to the point where I doubt anyone in the US would support adopting it.
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I think grieving family and friends who lost a loved one to the evil of murder would say , that was barbaric.
While prioritizing the health and safety of the convicted murderer is,inane.
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