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Dating and Marriage in the End Times

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Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. I Timothy 4:1-3

Would love it if someone dug into the Greek. Is it forbidding themselves or trying to forbid others?

But yes, there is a special demonic effort to reduce marriage in the end times.
 
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Does anyone else think that the rise of women having no interest in dating or marriage is a sign of the End Times?

I know that sounds blunt and is using a wide brush but it is the most clear way to convey the question.
Hold on there! Lets not blame women. This is a mutual problem. So no, it is not an end times checked box but a shift in how people live their lives today. Consider some of these reasons:

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Economic Instability
Digital Pornography
Dating App Fatigue
Higher Standards
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Financial Stress
Vanishing Social Skills
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Fear of Divorce
Lack of Initiation
Individual Autonomy
Unequal Yoking
Housing Costs
Hookup Culture
 
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Also, 2 Timothy 3:1-7, which speaks of a host of issues that are present in the last days. All of them are present in people today.

I noticed growing up in the 80's that society was heading that direction, and that I myself was being influenced by TV shows, movies and music back then to have a certain mindset. I saw it manifesting in both men and women.

In my own life I've suffered from disloyalty and betrayal from women, but I've also seen it from men. It's why I'm still single.
 
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Does anyone else think that the rise of women having no interest in dating or marriage is a sign of the End Times?

I know that sounds blunt and is using a wide brush but it is the most clear way to convey the question.
It certainly could be! Some false religions promote childbirth. But in the formerly Christian West women choosing to have less children is a sign of spiritual decline and a disinterest in unselfishly producing children for God. They are more interested in careers and liberty to live independently.

Or, it may be a sign that the world is getting "full" enough. In the beginning God called for mankind to "fill the earth." When it gets to the point where most of the habitable geographical regions are acceptably populating those areas, then there may be less internal incentive to produce children for God. T
 
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Hold on there! Lets not blame women. This is a mutual problem. So no, it is not an end times checked box but a shift in how people live their lives today. Consider some of these reasons:

AI Gemini Generated

Economic Instability
Digital Pornography
Dating App Fatigue
Higher Standards
Delayed Adulthood
Financial Stress
Vanishing Social Skills
Career Prioritization
Fear of Divorce
Lack of Initiation
Individual Autonomy
Unequal Yoking
Housing Costs
Hookup Culture
Yes I was a little hasty this morning. Men also have largely lost interest in marriage, but for different reasons.
 
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Does anyone else think that the rise of women having no interest in dating or marriage is a sign of the End Times?

I know that sounds blunt and is using a wide brush but it is the most clear way to convey the question.
Ecclesiastes 7:26
I find more bitter than death the woman who is a snare, whose heart is a trap and whose hands are chains.
The man who pleases God will escape her, but the sinner she will ensnare.
 
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Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. I Timothy 4:1-3

Would love it if someone dug into the Greek. Is it forbidding themselves or trying to forbid others?

But yes, there is a special demonic effort to reduce marriage in the end times.
In the Roman Catholic Church, celibacy is a mandatory discipline for priests & nuns.

One cannot be coerced into celibacy, it must be a conscious choice born of wisdom(spirit).
 
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I think humans have become less reliant on one another and no longer view marriage as a solution for companionship and furtherance. Look at @Maria Billingsley's list. Those are the challenges that bring people together with the goal of helping one another. When people are willing to go it alone or seek family and friends in its place that points to larger issues. There's an indebtedness that comes with a spouse that doesn't apply to the other and that's part of the problem. They don't want the responsibilities or commitment and prefer their freedom.

~bella
 
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In the Roman Catholic Church, celibacy is a mandatory discipline for priests & nuns.

One cannot be coerced into celibacy, it must be a conscious choice born of wisdom(spirit).
Yes, a lifetime of celibacy takes a special grace and a walk in the spirit but it is not limited to priests and nuns as there are a few others that achieve this.
 
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Yes I was a little hasty this morning. Men also have largely lost interest in marriage, but for different reasons.

Curious as to what those "different reasons" might be because there is one glaring issue on that list that directly addresses men, the massive use of pornography. It is a real problem. Easy access to high-speed internet pornography has shifted perceptions among many young men, specifically regarding how they view women and intimacy. It has distorted expectations that leads to a perfection trap.
One thing you may be thinking of ( just guessing here) , is the growing desire of men seeking "submissive" women. There are cults , like the Kirkers, who base their religious teachings on this one principle. This is a dangerous twisting of the Gospel truth.

Thanks for sharing.
Be blessed.
 
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Does anyone else think that the rise of women having no interest in dating or marriage is a sign of the End Times?

I know that sounds blunt and is using a wide brush but it is the most clear way to convey the question.
Let's look at a couple of things in the bible. In Luke 21:20“But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation has come near. 21Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, and let those who are inside the city depart, and let not those who are out in the country enter it, 22for these are days of vengeance, to fulfill all that is written. 23Alas for women who are pregnant and for those who are nursing infants in those days! For there will be great distress upon the earth and wrath against this people. 24They will fall by the edge of the sword and be led captive among all nations, and Jerusalem will be trampled underfoot by the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.
I highlighted that because Paul addresses the Church at Corinth about marriage and then tells that church in

In the following when Paul wrote to the Corinthians some 25 years later and after teaching them about marriage in general he specifically warns them about getting married in the "present time" they are in. Paul, having gotten his revelation of Jesus, would have known the above. He gives three reasons: 1 their present distress. 2. the time had grown short and 3. the present form of the world was passing away.

1 Corinthians 7:25Now concerning the betrothed, I have no command from the Lord, but I give my judgment as one who by the Lord’s mercy is trustworthy. 26I think that in view of the present distress it is good for a person to remain as he is. 27Are you bound to a wife? Do not seek to be free. Are you free from a wife? Do not seek a wife. 28But if you do marry, you have not sinned, and if a betrothed woman marries, she has not sinned. Yet those who marry will have worldly troubles, and I would spare you that. 29This is what I mean, brothers: the appointed time has grown very short. From now on, let those who have wives live as though they had none, 30and those who mourn as though they were not mourning, and those who rejoice as though they were not rejoicing, and those who buy as though they had no goods, 31and those who deal with the world as though they had no dealings with it. For the present form of this world is passing away.
 
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One thing you may be thinking of ( just guessing here) , is the growing desire of men seeking "submissive" women.
Dunno if there anything new there. I've forever been told by men who ought to have had brains enough to know better, "You got it lucky, boy them oriental wimmen know how to treat a man, don't they? Heh heh heh,,," You can generally tell they're envisioning the standard fictional geisha girl/prostitute/dimwitted sex toy racist stereotype traditionally peddled by the the lowest common denominator white mass media.

Having said that, mt wife did stay home while our kids were growing up, based on the premise that the kids would benefit in one of us was dedicated to seeing to their education and general welfare and one of us was out keeping us all fed and housed and generally provided for. Which of us was to play what role was obvious, I was unquestionably better at bringing in money than she was. (Engineers who were native English speakers were in demand, Education majors whose English skills were notably lacking much less so.) So she saw to the young 'uns education, and I provided the wherewithal. Traditional stereotyping? Maybe, but primarily a practical reality.

Did it work? Well, let's just say that none of our daughters is likely to ever be homeless or hungry barring warfare or famine. So maybe there's something to be said for the Kirkers' position. I couldn't say; I haven't actually paid any attention to them at all. I assume, rightly or wrongly, that most doctrinal fashions that come and go within The Church should be avoided on principle.
 
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Ephesians 6:10-13 "Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord and the power of His might. Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we do not wrestle flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all to stand." A Pastor friend told me many years ago that the Christian life is not a playground but a spiritual battlefield. Humbly, I concur with my Pastor friend. My wife and I have been married 26+ years. I have observed the divorce rate amongst Christians to have risen over the years. I take my marriage to God's throne room daily. I ask God to enable and empower me to love my wife as God loves the church/Body of Christ. I'm so very thankful that God's Word commands me how to love my beloved wife.
 
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