‘A whole civilisation will die tonight,’ Trump warns ahead of Iran deadline

Cape Codder · Apr 7, 2026

Pommer said:
We have no choice but to blow their civilization out of existence, is never the epitaph of “the good guys”.

No, they just need to replace their 13th century government.

Desk trauma · Apr 7, 2026

Cape Codder said:
Between people? Different cultures?

No idea, you’re the one that told me to do it. I’m not privy to your thoughts.

Valletta · Apr 7, 2026

RDKirk said:
Everything actually known about the Japanese indicated it would take slaughtering the majority of their population to force them to surrender.

In the 1980s, I knew an elderly Japanese woman who had been a girl in Osaka during the war. She said that she and other girls had been taught to carve bamboo daggers, and when the Americans invaded they were to lure an American soldier close, stab him, and then kill themselves.

Those Iranians in charge seem just as fanatical. They have killed almost 50,000 of their own people.

Pommer · Apr 7, 2026

Cape Codder said:
No, they just need to replace their 13th century government.

I see. It’s up to the United States of America to make sure other governments are ruling “correctly”.
Okay.

Desk trauma · Apr 7, 2026

RDKirk said:
Actually, the two cities did have military value, and they were on the bombing list anyway.

Granted, the plan even without the nukes was to level every large and medium Japanese city.

That was then, this is now. We've grown since then.

And the current law is what the current law is.

This is what it so tiring talking to civilians about war.

There needs to be a Godwin variant for using the WWII bombing campaigns as justification for modern civilian casualties. Lamay himself said everyone involved in the fire bombing campaign would be tried as war criminals were we to lose.

Gene2memE · Apr 7, 2026

Valletta said:
Democrat Harry Truman, along with the leaders of China and England, threatened "prompt and utter destruction" of Japan in July of 1945.

Repeating the errors of the past does not make them correct in the present.

timewerx · Apr 7, 2026

Aryeh Jay said:
Suggest you look up "pocket veto".

Late April Fools day from my mate!

timothyu · Apr 7, 2026

How about a cage match between the Ayatollah and the Prez?

timewerx · Apr 7, 2026

RDKirk said:
What Trump is proposing is clearly illegal under the DoD Law of War manual.

For instance, I was involved in targeting during the Persian Gulf War. We did bomb bridges and power plants, but those were strategically chosen. The bridges we bombed were those we knew from intelligence carried military communication cables. When we bombed a power plant, we first selected those we knew directly fed military installations, and we precisely struck portions of power plants only to reduce their capacity. Any more than that is a war crime.

My hope is that the senior military officials communicate a determination to the White House that they will not to go down as war criminals. There's no statute of limitation for war crimes, and they want their careers to last beyond Trump's term in office (maybe even beyond his lifetime).

Yes, the president could give them all blanket pardons before they're even prosecuted, but they'd have to stay in the US for the rest of their lives. Becoming "undeployable" is a death sentence for a military career.

Yup, indiscriminate bombing of brdiges and powerplants can create humanitarian disaster like the one in Gaza now.

Maybe it's Israel feeding those ideas to Trump? Israel using Trump as its mouthpiece?

People who are supportive of Trump and Israel right now don't know history and sadly, Christians who do, don't know how to read the Bible.

GoldenBoy89 · Apr 7, 2026

Guys it’s Tuesday. He’s already capitulated and backed off of his threats -as expected.

We are the weakest superpower in history.

timothyu · Apr 7, 2026

GoldenBoy89 said:
We are the weakest superpower in history.

Paraphrased Satire: None weaker. Never been one like it, rapidly, a lot sooner than people thought. A big day. I've agreed to a 2 week ceasefire. Biggest ceasefire ever. They don't know about it yet. I’ve been talking about it for a long time, along with many other subjects. I’ve been given a lot of credit for what I did. At the same time it’s fodder for the fake news. But we've done tremendous work. Did I mention our big hospital ship, really big? It’s hard to even fathom.

essentialsaltes · Apr 7, 2026

Trump agrees to 'suspend the bombing and attack of Iran' for two weeks if Iran opens Strait of Hormuz

President Donald Trump says he has agreed to suspend a planned bombing attack on Iran for two weeks if Iran agrees to reopen the Strait of Hormuz.

How is that any different from his last three threats? 'Open the [doggone] strait! Or else!'

I guess it isn't any different. His post suggests Iran has to open the strait immediately.

[Pakistan asked that] I hold off the destructive force being sent tonight to Iran, and subject to the Islamic Republic of Iran agreeing to the COMPLETE, IMMEDIATE, and SAFE OPENING of the Strait of Hormuz, I agree to suspend the bombing and attack of Iran for a period of two weeks. This will be a double sided CEASEFIRE! The reason for doing so is that we have already met and exceeded all Military objectives, [can't we just go home and have a victory parade, then?] and are very far along with a definitive Agreement concerning Longterm PEACE with Iran, and PEACE in the Middle East. We received a 10 point proposal from Iran, and believe it is a workable basis on which to negotiate. Almost all of the various points of past contention have been agreed to between the United States and Iran, but a two week period will allow the Agreement to be finalized and consummated.

Two weeks.

Desk trauma · Apr 7, 2026

essentialsaltes said:
Trump agrees to 'suspend the bombing and attack of Iran' for two weeks if Iran opens Strait of Hormuz
President Donald Trump says he has agreed to suspend a planned bombing attack on Iran for two weeks if Iran agrees to reopen the Strait of Hormuz.

How is that any different from his last three threats? 'Open the [doggone] strait! Or else!'

I guess it isn't any different. His post suggests Iran has to open the strait immediately.

[Pakistan asked that] I hold off the destructive force being sent tonight to Iran, and subject to the Islamic Republic of Iran agreeing to the COMPLETE, IMMEDIATE, and SAFE OPENING of the Strait of Hormuz, I agree to suspend the bombing and attack of Iran for a period of two weeks. This will be a double sided CEASEFIRE! The reason for doing so is that we have already met and exceeded all Military objectives, [can't we just go home and have a victory parade, then?] and are very far along with a definitive Agreement concerning Longterm PEACE with Iran, and PEACE in the Middle East. We received a 10 point proposal from Iran, and believe it is a workable basis on which to negotiate. Almost all of the various points of past contention have been agreed to between the United States and Iran, but a two week period will allow the Agreement to be finalized and consummated.

Two weeks.

Now the question, was Iran involved in any way in this process.

essentialsaltes · Apr 7, 2026

Desk trauma said:
Now the question, was Iran involved in any way in this process.

If Ukraine isn't needed to determine the conditions of the end of its war, I don't see why Iran is needed here.

But Trump just truthed this. Sounds like there are at least 5 points that need some work.

JacquelineDeane55 · Apr 7, 2026

*Deep sigh*I just want this war to end you guys.

rambot · Apr 7, 2026

Valletta said:
Those Iranians in charge seem just as fanatical. They have killed almost 50,000 of their own people.

That number was pulled out of a bingo roller. There has been no confirmed number.

Desk trauma · Apr 7, 2026

rambot said:
That number was pulled out of a bingo roller. There has been no confirmed number.

The president keeps inflating the number when trying to justify his threatening war crimes.

rambot · Apr 7, 2026

We need the Trump translators to help us understand what he could possibly be trying to pull off.

Every time Trump said or did something awful ("mimic someone with CP"), his translators were able to help us understand that he is not awful he just ["...imitates people with that handicap gesture all the time. This wasn't him insulting his disease"...okaaaaaay]. It's hard for us to understand being that kind of person; or admiring that kind of person.

Can one of his supporters or someone who admires him offer something toward an understanding of his strategy here?

rambot · Apr 7, 2026

JacquelineDeane55 said:
*Deep sigh*I just want this war to end you guys.

We all do.

But Trump's "mindset" will not allow that to happen. And frankly, I'm not convinced American suffering from this particular incursion will end...for a very, very long time.

rambot · Apr 7, 2026

Oh Look!
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20 Billion insurance for oil boaties

If I were a taxpaying American.... I honestly don't know how you guys can stomach this kind of disrespect.

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