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Telling Christians they follow the wrong kingdom.

Marjorie knew all along. She first warned us about the Jewish space lazers, and then predicted how replacement theory was orchestrated by Zionist supremacists.

Clearly she knows the in's and the outs!
 
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It's not too late to follow the most popular President ever into accepting Allah in your heart.
Allahu akbar! Closer to me than my own jugular vein!
 
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MTG could have tried to fight for what she believed in in the House, but she chose to take her ball and go home.
I’m sure her resignation being just after she served long enough to secure retirement benefits was purely coincidental.
 
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I'm a tad skeptical about the social media outrage from the infamous "Easter Post"

MTG's statements closely resembles Carlson's little "how dare you say the F-word on Easter morning!" tirade he uploaded to Facebook.

It just comes across as a tad phony.

...same goes for the factions that don't seem to care much about religion (and are even hostile to it) feigning being "shocked and appalled" invoking the sanctity of Easter.


They should be making their case for or against his actions based on the merits of the actual actions, not trying to manipulate people into disliking someone/something because someone used he F-word on Easter. The only people who care about that kind of superficial stuff are my mom's 87 year old aunt who puts plastic on her furniture and like 4 other people.


Do I think that anyone is experiencing some sort or moral crisis because someone used "bad words" on a holiday? No... I think that's just a cheap attempt at emotional manipulation.
 
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I'm a tad skeptical about the social media outrage from the infamous "Easter Post"

MTG's statements closely resembles Carlson's little "how dare you say the F-word on Easter morning!" tirade he uploaded to Facebook.

It just comes across as a tad phony.

...same goes for the factions that don't seem to care much about religion (and are even hostile to it) feigning being "shocked and appalled" invoking the sanctity of Easter.


They should be making their case for or against his actions based on the merits of the actual actions, not trying to manipulate people into disliking someone/something because someone used he F-word on Easter. The only people who care about that kind of superficial stuff are my mom's 87 year old aunt who puts plastic on her furniture and like 4 other people.


Do I think that anyone is experiencing some sort or moral crisis because someone used "bad words" on a holiday? No... I think that's just a cheap attempt at emotional manipulation.
I don't see anything in Greene's post about Trump's choice of profanity.
On Easter morning, this is what President Trump posted. Everyone in his administration that claims to be a Christian needs to fall on their knees and beg forgiveness from God and stop worshipping the President and intervene in Trump’s madness. I know all of you and him and he has gone insane, and all of you are complicit.

I’m not defending Iran but let’s be honest about all of this. The Strait is closed because the US and Israel started the unprovoked war against Iran based on the same nuclear lies they’ve been telling for decades, that any moment Iran would develop a nuclear weapon. You know who has nuclear weapons? Israel.

They are more than capable of defending themselves without the US having to fight their wars, kill innocent people and children, and pay for it. Trump threatening to bomb power plants and bridges hurts the Iranian people, the very people Trump claimed he was freeing. On Easter, of all days, we as Christians should be reminded that the son of God died and rose from the grave so that we can be forgiven once and for all of our sins. Jesus commanded us to love one another and forgive one another. Even our enemies.

Our President is not a Christian and his words and actions should not be supported by Christians. Christians in the administration should be pursuing peace. Urging the President to make peace. Not escalating war that is hurting people. This NOT what we promised the American people when they overwhelmingly voted in 2024, I know, I was there more than most. This is not making America great again, this is evil.
 
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don't see anything in Greene's post about Trump's choice of profanity.
It was Carlson who made a bigger to-do about the F-bomb, but they both appealed to the Easter angle.

And the articles are framing it in that context, the title of the article:

'This is evil': Marjorie Taylor Greene's 276-word reaction to Trump's profane Truth Social post​


Over at The Independent:

MTG leads outraged reaction to Trump’s foul-mouthed Easter threats to Iran: ‘He has gone insane’​


Over at HuffPo:
Trump’s once biggest cheerleader blasted him over his “evil” expletive-laced Easter Day post against Iran.

So the "profanity on easter" was certainly the angle that's getting played up on this...
 
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It was Carlson who made a bigger to-do about the F-bomb, but they both appealed to the Easter angle.
And yet the "F-bomb" is all you talked about. A Christian appealing to the spirit of Easter, on Easter, when addressing issues that specifically relate to the meaning of Easter in Christianity, is hardly phony. You don't have to agree with it (why would you, as an atheist?), but the world doesn't revolve around you.
And the articles are framing it in that context, the title of the article:

'This is evil': Marjorie Taylor Greene's 276-word reaction to Trump's profane Truth Social post​


Over at The Independent:

MTG leads outraged reaction to Trump’s foul-mouthed Easter threats to Iran: ‘He has gone insane’​


Over at HuffPo:
Trump’s once biggest cheerleader blasted him over his “evil” expletive-laced Easter Day post against Iran.

So the "profanity on easter" was certainly the angle that's getting played up on this...
Why should I care about how news articles are framing her tweet?
 
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I'm a tad skeptical about the social media outrage from the infamous "Easter Post"

MTG's statements closely resembles Carlson's little "how dare you say the F-word on Easter morning!" tirade he uploaded to Facebook.

It just comes across as a tad phony.

...same goes for the factions that don't seem to care much about religion (and are even hostile to it) feigning being "shocked and appalled" invoking the sanctity of Easter.


They should be making their case for or against his actions based on the merits of the actual actions, not trying to manipulate people into disliking someone/something because someone used he F-word on Easter. The only people who care about that kind of superficial stuff are my mom's 87 year old aunt who puts plastic on her furniture and like 4 other people.


Do I think that anyone is experiencing some sort or moral crisis because someone used "bad words" on a holiday? No... I think that's just a cheap attempt at emotional manipulation.
To be clear, you believe when Trump communicates messages like this (at all), it is not problematic, or it is a little?
And if you do believe it's problematic (perhaps a bit bit moreso on Easter), are you really surprised?


Personally, what I find MOST surprising is that Conservative Christians that in the past have been quite reactionary to bad words, support this president....at all. But moreso after instances like this.

I don't understand.
 
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I think that's just a cheap attempt at emotional manipulation.
Politics of any form isn't ? Politics has played on the people's inability to use common sense for ages by basing support on emotion. It is useless. It is like todays entertainers passing themselves off as musicians, putting out the same plastic thing over and over and people are hyped on celebrity rather than content. Intelligence is all but dead as no one needs to think any more. except for the manipulators.
 
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To be clear, you believe when Trump communicates messages like this (at all), it is not problematic, or it is a little?
And if you do believe it's problematic (perhaps a bit bit moreso on Easter), are you really surprised?
It's problematic because he's making threats on social media (and potentially exposing strategies and timelines regarding military operations for the whole world to see)

But not because it has "potty mouth words" or because it was on Easter.

A PG-13 version of the same thing on a random day in March would have been just as problematic.
 
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It's problematic because he's making threats on social media (and potentially exposing strategies and timelines regarding military operations for the whole world to see)

But not because it has "potty mouth words" or because it was on Easter.
I disagree.

It's problematic for me because I want to be led by men of good quality; of even temperment and excellent communication. I don't want the leader of my country talking so flippantly about killing people over his own blunder. IT makes him look evil; and by extension, if I was being led by that person, it would make me look evil (or at LEAST that I would share the same sentiment as him). I don't like my representatives behaving reprehensibly if they are in the process of representing me.

A PG-13 version of the same thing on a random day in March would have been just as problematic.
Well, he's certainly made many of them.


What thing I will agree with you that is strange is that most of hte people I see getting upset over his easter posts are atheists. I think they are just flabbergasted that Christians purport to be okay with Trump's behaviour when ANY Democrat doing anything like this would likely be receiving death threats.
 
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I disagree.

It's problematic for me because I want to be led by men of good quality; of even temperment and excellent communication. I don't want the leader of my country talking so flippantly about killing people over his own blunder. IT makes him look evil; and by extension, if I was being led by that person, it would make me look evil (or at LEAST that I would share the same sentiment as him). I don't like my representatives behaving reprehensibly if they are in the process of representing me.
Actually, it sounds like we do partially agree on that...

It's the content of the posts and things he's talking about that make them problematic, not the TV-MA language or the fact that the post happened to be on a specific holiday.

Unless I'm misunderstanding, and you're suggesting that the use of profanity is an indicator of lacking temperament and communication skills...

What thing I will agree with you that is strange is that most of hte people I see getting upset over his easter posts are atheists. I think they are just flabbergasted that Christians purport to be okay with Trump's behaviour when ANY Democrat doing anything like this would likely be receiving death threats.

That could be part of it... but I think part of it could just be the approach of appealing to the opponents' purported values of their moral system as a means of calling them out (when the person themself doesn't really care about that particular set of morals)

I'd sort of place it in the same bucket how people go back and forth on "what the Pope said", and the pendulum swings between "well, even the Pope said this thing that supports my position" and "well who cares what the Pope says, he's just a guy in a hat"


Speaking as an atheist, I don't know why my fellow atheists would pounce on it for reasons of the bad language or "it's in poor taste to do on Easter"... from an atheistic standpoint, there's no logical reason to demand some elevated level on special decorum on that particular holiday that we wouldn't demand on any other day.
 
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Speaking as an atheist, I don't know why my fellow atheists would pounce on it for reasons of the bad language or "it's in poor taste to do on Easter"... from an atheistic standpoint, there's no logical reason to demand some elevated level on special decorum on that particular holiday that we wouldn't demand on any other day.
There is a logical reason to demand a certain level of decorum from your elected officials - both in language and in respect for the religion that they profess to adhere to (as do many of their constituents).
 
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Actually, it sounds like we do partially agree on that...

It's the content of the posts and things he's talking about that make them problematic, not the TV-MA language or the fact that the post happened to be on a specific holiday.
It's both for me; although it sounds like for you it's more "strategy"...for me it's "it feels misanthropic to casually talk about killing millions of people".

Unless I'm misunderstanding, and you're suggesting that the use of profanity is an indicator of lacking temperament and communication skills...
Yes, this is correct.

That could be part of it... but I think part of it could just be the approach of appealing to the opponents' purported values of their moral system as a means of calling them out (when the person themself doesn't really care about that particular set of morals)
I think this is what I said with nicer sounding words.
 
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There is a logical reason to demand a certain level of decorum from your elected officials - both in language and in respect for the religion that they profess to adhere to (as do many of their constituents).
If Christianity doesn't sway me, then what logical reason would I have to judge based the level of commitment to an ideology that I don't have any interest in?

As I noted, I see the content of what he said as the problematic part, not that he's "not being a good enough Christian while claiming to be a Christian"

It'd be like non-vegan critiquing a vegan for catching them saying something terrible while eating a hamburger, and focusing on the hamburger part.
 
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I'm actually kind of surprised that this Trump easter moment isn't the one getting all the attention

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Where he's trash talking for about 2 minutes with a shadowy giant bunny standing next to him
 
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