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Trump threatens to strike Iran’s power plants if it doesn’t reopen Strait of Hormuz

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For such difficult questions, one should consult the betting markets.
One of the accounts that hit big on the timing of the start of the war has placed another large bet on boots on the ground so, we will see.
 
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Any signal by the United States that it might not be willing to defend NATO allies in the event of attack by Russia or another adversary could severely weaken the alliance even if Trump opts against withdrawing from it altogether, something that may require ⁠consent by Congress.

A 2023 law explicitly requires Congressional approval before the president can withdraw from NATO.
 
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Trump is bigly mad that a defensive alliance didn't join the US in a war that is definitely illegal under international law and plausibly (at a minimum) illegal under US law?
The US doesn't care about any international law that has not been ratified by Congress.

And, unfortunately, US law permits the president to engage in any war he wants for up to 60 days without approval of Congress, unless Congress passes legislation against it earlier. The bill to do that was submitted a couple of weeks ago in the House and was voted down.
 
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They're down to 3 missile launchers from 350. Longterm this may be good for the world as it rids of one less demonic govt that has spent a lifetime trying to terrorize folks & destroy's God's homeland.
Iran has far more than 3 missile launchers remaining and is still a significant threat to the region.

Iran Fires Largest Missile Salvo Since Beginning of War

In the largest Iranian salvo on Israel since the early days of the war, some 10 ballistic missiles were fired at central Israel a short while ago, according to initial IDF assessments.
 
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And, unfortunately, US law permits the president to engage in any war he wants for up to 60 days without approval of Congress, unless Congress passes legislation against it earlier. The bill to do that was submitted a couple of weeks ago in the House and was voted down.
Unfortunately? I don't know. The War Powers Act has been controversial and resented by every president since 1973. Note that Nixon vetoed it and it was overruled by Congress. The War Powers Act came about due to Vietnam, and for that reason had support, but the constitutionality has been blurry.
 
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Unfortunately? I don't know. The War Powers Act has been controversial and resented by every president since 1973. Note that Nixon vetoed it and it was overruled by Congress. The War Powers Act came about due to Vietnam, and for that reason had support, but the constitutionality has been blurry.
I'm going to stick to "unfortunately." It's permitted nothing but shenanigans since 1973.
 
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I'm going to stick to "unfortunately." It's permitted nothing but shenanigans since 1973.
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Prior to the War Power Act, the only restraint that Congress had on the president engaging in "peace actions" and such was funding. The War Powers Act placed another restriction on the president. Rather than "permitting" such actions, it's intent was to curb open-ended involvements.

Consider this: The US had fought in only five conflicts where it made an official declaration of war. It has fought, according to some sources, in 469 military interventions.
 
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No national address prior to the war...but it seems there will be one to end it?

Mr. Trump was scheduled to deliver “an important update” on the war in a national address at 9 p.m. Eastern on Wednesday, said Karoline Leavitt, the White House press secretary. On Tuesday afternoon, Mr. Trump told reporters that he had achieved his primary goal of preventing Iran from developing a nuclear weapon, though there is no evidence that the United States or Israel has destroyed the country’s stockpile of near-bomb-grade fuel.


...a speech that amounted to strung-together Truth Social posts.
 
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Begining of the war: "2-4 weeks"

.....

Week 5: "Another 2-3 weeks"

It's pretty obvious that you have never played four dementia chess before.
 
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Begining of the war: "2-4 weeks"

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Week 5: "Another 2-3 weeks"
Return with us to the thrilling days of yesteryear, when one Abraham Lincoln asked for 300,000 volunteers for a period of 90 days to put down a little rebellion that was going on in the South.
 
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It's pretty obvious that you have never played four dementia chess before.

It's intereating Trump chose to go on TV with nothing new to offer....but yea, the four dementia chess was on full display.
 
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Some of you may be old enough to remember General Colin Powell's warning about getting into wars.
Trump's insistence that other countries defend the strait and 'take the oil' is the equivalent of shouting "Clean up on aisle 3!" and sneaking out the back exit.
 
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Bet the iranian opposition is thrilled to "take back" their country after it has been "bombed to the stone age".
Only Trump gets to determine what the victory conditions are.
 
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